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April 28th, 2016 at 11:21:02 PM
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Lets look at this, this is Mark, it has been a long time since I have posted but have something interesting to show all of you. I am a Math Major in my infant stages. I was goofing off for a while last week and was playing around unfortunately I am not a programmer yet so I want to show you guys something and see if anyone can plug in a Billion rounds or not.
I was counting the single deck and keeping track of the cards when I noticed its possible to get a more accurate statistical prediction of the cards in which is this, there are 20 2 thru 6's, 16 ten value cards, 12 Neutral 7 - 9 cards, and 4 Aces. Minus one from all is the burn card. So I write down 19 for the small cards and 15 for tens, 11 for neutrals and 3 for Aces. When the cards come out I check off each of its determines category so if I get 2,2 and the dealer shows a Paint card and I hit 2 paints and buts and he has a 7 under his paint I -2 from 19 ( Small Cards ) and 3 from 15 ( tens ) with -1 from the neutral cards. I am pretty much doing good but I notices when there is alot of small cards and not enough neutrals the dealer has a huge advantage over me.
I would like to see if someone can do some simulation and see what happens and put up a strategy card for this strategy if it works, play with the rules and I have been doing 6/5 Bj and seeming doing well so far. Try this for kicks with a pen and paper and a deck of cards, just single deck, I have had good results so far with 2 decks.
Sounds like an interesting thing to do if someone is up to it...
Thanks
Mark
I was counting the single deck and keeping track of the cards when I noticed its possible to get a more accurate statistical prediction of the cards in which is this, there are 20 2 thru 6's, 16 ten value cards, 12 Neutral 7 - 9 cards, and 4 Aces. Minus one from all is the burn card. So I write down 19 for the small cards and 15 for tens, 11 for neutrals and 3 for Aces. When the cards come out I check off each of its determines category so if I get 2,2 and the dealer shows a Paint card and I hit 2 paints and buts and he has a 7 under his paint I -2 from 19 ( Small Cards ) and 3 from 15 ( tens ) with -1 from the neutral cards. I am pretty much doing good but I notices when there is alot of small cards and not enough neutrals the dealer has a huge advantage over me.
I would like to see if someone can do some simulation and see what happens and put up a strategy card for this strategy if it works, play with the rules and I have been doing 6/5 Bj and seeming doing well so far. Try this for kicks with a pen and paper and a deck of cards, just single deck, I have had good results so far with 2 decks.
Sounds like an interesting thing to do if someone is up to it...
Thanks
Mark
April 28th, 2016 at 11:24:45 PM
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When the small cards and in abundance in par with alot of neutrals I tend to double on 12, 13, and when there is a serious disparity of difference ( if that is the right word.) between tens and stiffs I double on 16 and get alot of 21's and 20's where as the dealer busts.
Interesting to see the accuracy at times but I need atleast 600,000,000 rounds and someone to tweak with the rules and the payouts to see what happens.
Thanks again.
Interesting to see the accuracy at times but I need atleast 600,000,000 rounds and someone to tweak with the rules and the payouts to see what happens.
Thanks again.
April 28th, 2016 at 11:39:17 PM
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Quote: nhbtitanLets look at this . . .
I was counting the single deck and keeping track of the cards when I noticed . . .
I would like to see if someone can do some simulation and see what happens and put up a strategy card for this strategy if it works, play with the rules and I have been doing 6/5 Bj and seeming doing well so far. Try this for kicks with a pen and paper and a deck of cards, just single deck, I have had good results so far with 2 decks.
Sounds like an interesting thing to do if someone is up to it...
Mark,
Glad to hear you are having good sessions. Careful though, because your sample size and evidence sound a bit statistically week in what is a horrid game.
I expect strategy cards and house edge calculations are already available for this game, but if they are not, then I have a variant on the Wizard's Excel derivation of strategy and house edge Excel workbook. My variant of the workbook allows you to work out house edge for any combination of cards left in the shoe, so would be pretty handy for working out what eventualities would make playing worthwhile.
But the devil is in the detail. Please get back to me with the exact rule details and I'll see if I can plug them into it for you. Maybe PM me?
Psalm 25:16
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Proverbs 18:2
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April 29th, 2016 at 6:59:33 AM
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I don't totally understand what your strategy is. You're keeping track of cards with a pen and paper, but then what? Are you varying your bets? Your playing strategy? How?
I see you posted a little about this in a follow up, but without specifics, it's impossible for anyone to know. I am skeptical because 6:5 is nearly impossible to beat via counting.
I see you posted a little about this in a follow up, but without specifics, it's impossible for anyone to know. I am skeptical because 6:5 is nearly impossible to beat via counting.
April 29th, 2016 at 7:13:59 AM
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This is "kind of" what Thorp first did with his 10's count. He kept a ratio of small and big cards and when it hit a certain threshold he knew he was the advantage. Later, he refined it to the Hi/Low system because he was able to leverage programming and effect of card removal.
Ironically, you've went backwards from Hi/Low and stumbled on to something even older, not newer =).
You have the right mind set though, looking for other angles and ways, and for that I applaud you. Keep at it though ;). Unfortunately, with BJ, since it's been around and AP'd for so long, there's not much new you'll find with it other than specific exploits from specific weaknesses at specific casinos =/.
Ironically, you've went backwards from Hi/Low and stumbled on to something even older, not newer =).
You have the right mind set though, looking for other angles and ways, and for that I applaud you. Keep at it though ;). Unfortunately, with BJ, since it's been around and AP'd for so long, there's not much new you'll find with it other than specific exploits from specific weaknesses at specific casinos =/.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.