DJTeddyBear
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October 22nd, 2015 at 6:20:13 AM permalink
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Alan, you see some amazing things. You never cease to entertain some of us. Others are taking you seriously. I feel very sorry for them. Have a nice day.

I've seen the exact same type of stuff that Alan is talking about. Although it usually requires getting the floor person's approval, paying a 'forgotten' bet happens all the time. Craps is too hectic and fast paced to never allow such a thing.
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NokTang
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October 22nd, 2015 at 7:15:54 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I've seen the exact same type of stuff that Alan is talking about. Although it usually requires getting the floor person's approval, paying a 'forgotten' bet happens all the time. Craps is too hectic and fast paced to never allow such a thing.



Have you also seen eighteen yo's(that's a 6 on one die, a five on the other) thrown in a row, at Caesars Palace, in Las Vegas Nevada at an active table?(not a trick performance etc.)
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October 22nd, 2015 at 7:53:22 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I've seen the exact same type of stuff that Alan is talking about. Although it usually requires getting the floor person's approval, paying a 'forgotten' bet happens all the time. Craps is too hectic and fast paced to never allow such a thing.



I have been the recipient of that type of grace a couple of times. I'm a big tipper on craps, trading that for assistance from the dealers in keeping me active and prompted. I tell them at the beginning to keep us both in, and twice it was moving too fast for me to get my bets re-set, and they've honored the request as a call bet and paid it. To both our benefits, of course, but they have done it without any issue.

I have also gotten that grace on re-setting sidebets and such many times at a table, usually when I've had money up for change in order to make the bet (that I'd consistently been making), and the dealer ignored the chip up top and started the hand without making the change. On a few occasions, they had to simply apologize and deal it without my bet in place (quoting house rules), which so far has not resulted in a big miss, thank goodness, but is irritating to me. I prefer the dealers who are good enough at their jobs that they scan all positions before starting the hand and notice if someone hasn't placed a bet that they've been regularly making, or look for large chips out of place on the layout.

I also think it's a design flaw, if a bet on any table, craps or otherwise, has a red background for a bet that's normally made with a red chip, or green if it's a table minimum green bet. One example of this is some PGP felts have the Fortune bonus circle in solid red, when a $5 bet is far and away the most common bet there (Envy minimum). I haven't seen a lot of this type error on craps layouts, but I haven't played craps in that many casinos (yet).
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Deucekies
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October 24th, 2015 at 12:35:52 AM permalink
When I'm pit bossing, I reward player honesty with match plays and, in the case of returning big mispays, food comps.
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mamat
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October 24th, 2015 at 2:01:21 AM permalink
I've had hundreds of misplays on tables.

Craps tables are worst for underpays - often underpaid $100 on color up.
And every time, boxman shoots me the missing $100 without recounting (like a "slowpay" in 3rd world countries...they give you change and pause... if you leave, they don't finish paying you).

...not all craps bowmen are crooked. I tried to leave a table without by $500-600 on color up, and the bowman reminded me that I was forgetting my money.

Blackjack tables are best for overpays...since I tip generously.
Dealers often make mistakes in my favor on complicated bets, or any situation with plausible deniability.
e.g. double paying or extra chips on an insurance bet or blackjack, paying 3:2 instead of 6:5 (yes, I sometimes play 6:5 BJ), double paying if table action is interrupted by pit boss coming over, paying 3:2 or 6:5 on a match bet (rather than even), allowing a double on match bet coupon (if norm is only doubling the cash)
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Mispays at cashiers. Once overpaid $100.
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Two mispays on slot jackpots.
One of my friends was underpaid $1,000 on a handpay, and it took forever to get the extra money (surveillance, etc...)
So... I always double-checked my hand pays with no issues for 6 years, then two errors at different casinos in the same month (both in my favor $300 & $700).

Mitchell
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October 24th, 2015 at 3:03:29 AM permalink
Quote: mamat

I've had hundreds of misplays on tables.

Craps tables are worst for underpays - often underpaid $100 on color up.
And every time, boxman shoots me the missing $100 without recounting (like a "slowpay" in 3rd world countries...they give you change and pause... if you leave, they don't finish paying you).

...not all craps bowmen are crooked. I tried to leave a table without by $500-600 on color up, and the bowman reminded me that I was forgetting my money.

Blackjack tables are best for overpays...since I tip generously.
Dealers often make mistakes in my favor on complicated bets, or any situation with plausible deniability.
e.g. double paying or extra chips on an insurance bet or blackjack, paying 3:2 instead of 6:5 (yes, I sometimes play 6:5 BJ), double paying if table action is interrupted by pit boss coming over, paying 3:2 or 6:5 on a match bet (rather than even), allowing a double on match bet coupon (if norm is only doubling the cash)
----
Mispays at cashiers. Once overpaid $100.
----
Two mispays on slot jackpots.
One of my friends was underpaid $1,000 on a handpay, and it took forever to get the extra money (surveillance, etc...)
So... I always double-checked my hand pays with no issues for 6 years, then two errors at different casinos in the same month (both in my favor $300 & $700).

Mitchell



Mitchell, are you saying that blackjack dealers cheat in your favor because you tip generously? No judgement here, I just want to clarify.
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LarDog7777
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May 8th, 2016 at 9:09:03 AM permalink
I've seen the opposite too... The pit boss later hitting up some poor guy with 3 chips on the table a that lost his BJ hand where the dealer had called it a push... They made him pay up... The other players at the table raised so much hell that they gave the guy a free buffet... Guess it's all according to their rules....
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May 8th, 2016 at 9:14:36 AM permalink
I've had casino managers come down and ask for as much as 4K back in hands that happened hours before
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