BioProf
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August 7th, 2014 at 3:43:47 PM permalink
And article in vox.com today (www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5976927/slot-machines-casinos-addiction-by-design) seems to be a re-hash of Natasha Dow Schull's 2012 book.

The article states:
"...some video (slot) machines actually make internal adjustments if they notice that a player is on a losing streak and is reaching their 'pain point'. This has to be done carefully it's illegal for casinos to change the odds in a game once a player has started playing. But, [Shull] says, casinos can reduce the volatility of a game in a way that still preserves the overall payback percentage. That's technically still legal."

This leaves me with a few questions for The Wiz or for anyone else who is knowledgeable.

1) Does anyone have real facts that such alteration of volatility actually occurs? If so, which casino corporations practice it?

2) Is alteration of volatility illegal in any state or province?

3) Would it be possible to change the volatility of video poker considering a) fixed pay tables and b) the supposedly honest deal from a 52 card deck each hand? I can't imagine how it could occur, but I'm not spending a lot of brain time on it.

Thanks to all.
FleaStiff
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August 7th, 2014 at 3:51:55 PM permalink
Off hand I'd not be too inclined to invest a great deal of brain time in this either.

Sling some terms of art around, sell a book or sell a seminar or just get a reputation and use it later.

Slots will change what they dangle before me and when they do it.. but the chip doesn't change? No.
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:13:51 PM permalink
Quote: BioProf

3) Would it be possible to change the volatility of video poker considering a) fixed pay tables and b) the supposedly honest deal from a 52 card deck each hand?


Only by adjusting your playing strategy; the machine can't change it. If so, it's not real video poker.
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:31:15 PM permalink
Quote: JB

Only by adjusting your playing strategy; the machine can't change it. If so, it's not real video poker.



What about something like winning streak poker where you're awarded a free ride? Couldn't they increase the chances of getting a free ride at a lower level and decrease the chances of getting a free ride at a higher level to retain the same payback percentage and make it less volatile?
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:32:48 PM permalink
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What about something like winning streak poker where you're awarded a free ride? Couldn't they increase the chances of getting a free ride at a lower level and decrease the chances of getting a free ride at a higher level to retain the same payback percentage and make it less volatile?


I suppose so; I was envisioning standard single-hand video poker when I posted my above reply.
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:34:53 PM permalink
Usually they just throw a switch in the backroom !
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:37:49 PM permalink
I read this article today too. I struggle to believe this is legal under Nevada law even for slot machines. NV law says the probability of each symbol must be constant even for slot machines. So the probabilities and variance of slot payouts remain fixed while a player is actively playing (because it's illegal to change payouts while the machine is active).
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:41:44 PM permalink
My understanding is that the probability of each symbol appearing in any location must be constant (a different constant for each symbol and location, of course).

If that's the case then this article is clearly nonsense.
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:52:00 PM permalink
Thanks. Glad I didn't waste much brain power on it. I'll leave the slots to my wife.
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August 7th, 2014 at 4:58:58 PM permalink
Also if they altered the volatility what would be equal? Would something that's 98.3714% payback be equal to something that's 98.3711% payback?

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