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Here's a link to the list of words:
https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/a03ef2cba789d8cf00c08f767e0fad7b
And from that list, "AGORA" was removed from the list due to its obscurity, along with future solutions "PUPAL" and the British-spelled "FIBRE." The NYT has also removed future answers "SLAVE," "LYNCH," and "WENCH" under its "insensitive or offensive" rule.
Quote: EdCollinsNo, that word is not a valid Wordle word.
Here's a link to the list of words:
https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/a03ef2cba789d8cf00c08f767e0fad7b
And from that list, "AGORA" was removed from the list due to its obscurity, along with future solutions "PUPAL" and the British-spelled "FIBRE." The NYT has also removed future answers "SLAVE," "LYNCH," and "WENCH" under its "insensitive or offensive" rule.
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HOARY was accepted as a word. No idea why you would say it is not a valid word?
I've been doing NYTimes Spelling bee. It did not take apical! Nor cecal! These are words I have used for decades... Today purpura. The most egregious one was ling. I'm not even a fisherman and I know what a ling is.
See my prior post which gives a link to a list of all of the valid words that can be considered valid answers.
Here's a link to all of the valid GUESSES
https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/cdcdf777450c5b5301e439061d29694c
and yes, HOARY is listed in this list. But since I knew it couldn't be a valid answer, my game just had two valid answers left... and I chose poorly.
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"How to play
Guess the NERDLE in 6 tries. After each guess, the color of the tiles will change to show how close your guess was to the solution.
Rules
Each guess is a calculation.
You can use 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 + - * / or =.
It must contain one “=”.
It must only have a number to the right of the “=”, not another calculation.
Standard order of operations applies, so calculate * and / before + and -
If the answer we're looking for is 10+20=30, then we will accept 20+10=30 too (unless you turn off 'commutative answers' in settings)."
Wordle 262 3/6*
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UNLIKE yesterday, this time I chose correctly.
Only SHEET and SWEET were possible after the first guess.
After three games, I definitely prefer MasterMind. Instead of being told that the S and the E the T were correct, it's just more fun for me to be told that three letters are correct... and for me to have to determine which three letters those are.
https://worldle.teuteuf.fr/
It shows you the outline of a country and after each guess it tells you how far off you are in km (or miles if you prefer). It also shows you which direction you need to go for your next guess.
I’m not very strong in geography but I’ve done okay. Yesterday was the tiny island nation of Nauru. I never had a chance.
Quote: EdCollinsLike yesterday, I received nothing but solid green clues. Like yesterday, after my initial guess there were only two words left.
UNLIKE yesterday, this time I chose correctly.
Only SHEET and SWEET were possible after the first guess.
After three games, I definitely prefer MasterMind. Instead of being told that the S and the E the T were correct, it's just more fun for me to be told that three letters are correct... and for me to have to determine which three letters those are.
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What I am looking for is something with a multiplication and division sign plus as many digits as possible (preferably not a zero, which is rarely in the solution).
Quote: gordonm888Can anyone suggest a good generic starting guess for nerdle?
What I am looking for is something with a multiplication and division sign plus as many digits as possible (preferably not a zero, which is rarely in the solution).
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24/8*3=9
After a few tries, I decided to search for " best opening wordle guesses" and found the links below:
link_1, link_2, link_3 , and link_4
Note: I have only looked carefully at "link_4"
Note 2: "link_3 , and link_4" are related you tube videos
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Update ( 1215 am, Pac Time):
Also, I try to do the puzzles without any "solver assistance", but when I get stuck (about 40% of the time) I use these ones, see links below:
link_5 , link_6
Note: I only recently found the site in "link_6", but I think it is the better/easier one so far.
Quote: WizardQuote: EdCollinsLike yesterday, I received nothing but solid green clues. Like yesterday, after my initial guess there were only two words left.
UNLIKE yesterday, this time I chose correctly.
Only SHEET and SWEET were possible after the first guess.
After three games, I definitely prefer MasterMind. Instead of being told that the S and the E the T were correct, it's just more fun for me to be told that three letters are correct... and for me to have to determine which three letters those are.
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Note 1: Most of the time I put an s on the end of my 2nd guess when it is possible, but this time I started with an s and got lucky (though not as lucky as Ed).
Note 2: I haven't looked at the official 2000+ words that the answer can be, yet (so I don't know if the "s at the end for the 2nd guess" is a good strategy or not?).
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I had a 50-50 choice after row 2... but again chose poorly.
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I had a 50-50 choice after row 2... but again chose poorly.
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I got it in three, but I used an online "solver/helper*** ", on the 2nd and 3rd attempts.
***: I don't think doing this is cheating, but I think it may be worth splitting the thread into "Wordle assisted" and "Wordle unassisted", if enough people post their Wordle results to this forum?
You said you haven't looked at the list of 2,309 Wordle words. Maybe you don't want to do so. However, if you're curious about whether an 'S' at the end of your second guess is a good strategy or not, click my spoiler button, which gives my opinion.
(abyss, amass, amiss, basis, bless, bliss, bonus, brass, chaos, chess, class, crass, cress, cross, dress, dross, ethos, fetus, ficus, floss, focus, glass, gloss, grass, gross, guess, humus, locus, lupus, minus, mucus, press, rebus, torus, truss, virus)
Compare that with 253 words that end in T, 364 words that end in Y, and 422 words that end in E.
So no, I don't necessarily think putting an S at the end of your second guess will gain you anything. I don't think it will necessarily lower your search space significantly, as you initially suspected it might. But, of course a lot depends upon what your first guess is and what's left.
Quote: EdCollinsksdjdj,
You said you haven't looked at the list of 2,309 Wordle words. Maybe you don't want to do so. However, if you're curious about whether an 'S' at the end of your second guess is a good strategy or not, click my spoiler button, which gives my opinion.I noticed that four-letter words that end in S have all been removed from the list. For example, BALLS is not a valid Wordle answer, nor is BIKES. Because these words have been removed, there are just 36 valid Wordle answers that do end in S.
(abyss, amass, amiss, basis, bless, bliss, bonus, brass, chaos, chess, class, crass, cress, cross, dress, dross, ethos, fetus, ficus, floss, focus, glass, gloss, grass, gross, guess, humus, locus, lupus, minus, mucus, press, rebus, torus, truss, virus)
Compare that with 253 words that end in T, 364 words that end in Y, and 422 words that end in E.
So no, I don't necessarily think putting an S at the end of your second guess will gain you anything. I don't think it will necessarily lower your search space significantly, as you initially suspected it might. But, of course a lot depends upon what your first guess is and what's left.
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Also, I just found this link >>> https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/a7b776506c73284511034e63af1017ee <<< after searching "list of possible wordle words*** ".
***: I originally searched using "list of wordle words" but that didn't give me what I wanted (the first result was a link to the "current and future answers").
Quote: ksdjdjI got it in three, but I used an online "solver/helper*** ", on the 2nd and 3rd attempts.
***: I don't think doing this is cheating...
a) I would classify using a word list or solver/helper as 'cheating'
b) Who cares if one cheats? it's a puzzle. Everyone has their own method. I don't "cheat", but I have given up a few times and not solved that day's puzzle
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To me, cheating would be classified as specifically obtaining information about the solution ahead of time. For example, knowing there are two Es in the solution, or there are no letters used greater than the letter R, etc.
Of course, some might consider using pen and paper cheating. They feel it should ALL be done in one's head.
Others might consider spending more than a minute on the game as 'cheating.' They might feel no thought at all should be required, other than the time it takes to come up with the first word you can think of.
I agree with Indy that everyone has their own method of how they choose to play the game.
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I try to use the first word that pops into my head in the morning, but I modify it to avoid double letters. So I would use SATED instead of SATES. However using a plural or a past tense usually means you don’t get that lucky first guess, my sister got that once.
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Note 1: I used a list of 2309 possible "Wordle words" for guess 2 and 3 (so "minor assistance", IMO).
Note 2: After this, I plan to only use the 10600+ "allowed Wordle guesses" list from now on (if I get stuck).
Note 3: I am mainly using this game as a fun way to learn the meaning(s)*** of words / increase my vocab and understanding.
***: For example, the answer for "Wordle 264 3/6" has "four common definitions" (when using a quick "google search").
Quote: mipletQuote: gordonm888Can anyone suggest a good generic starting guess for nerdle?
What I am looking for is something with a multiplication and division sign plus as many digits as possible (preferably not a zero, which is rarely in the solution).
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24/8*3=9
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Using the "starting guess" suggestion by miplet, I got 2 from 2 nerdles, both out in 3 guesses.
I kinda like Wordle.
Very addictive, but doesn't turn into a time suck since you only get to play once per day. Nice.
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Only two words left after my first guess. And of course I picked the wrong one again.
My average solution after just five games is exactly 3 rows. If I play long enough I expect it will eventually settle in the low 4s.
You literally have to “roll the dice” to pick the right one,
and today I did not.
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Thought I was gonna get it on the 4th attempt.
Quote: HotBlondeDamn, I hate when this happens.
You literally have to “roll the dice” to pick the right one,
and today I did not.
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Thought I was gonna get it on the 4th attempt.
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I found myself in a similar position. Here's how I got out of it:
It turned into a guessing game after three turns. Of course, the correct answer is one of the three I didn't pick.
I wonder if the NYT polls people with questions like "choose a five-letter word that ends in ..." and they go with the response chosen the least. To be honest, that is the kind thing I would do.
I've already proven I'm not a "lucky guesser." And I didn't want to not solve the puzzle at all, in the allotted six rows rows. (In fact,my goal is to always solve the puzzle in five rows or less.)
So my next guess was one to simply eliminate as many of the choices as possible. I chose the word CHAMP, which uses a C, an M, and a P. If CATCH, MATCH, or PATCH was the answer, I would have known this and solved the puzzle in four rows.
Alas, I chose poorly again. With my feedback, I eliminated those three possible answers... but that still left three remaining. (BATCH, HATCH, WATCH)
Rather than guess again, and possibly solve the puzzle in four rows, but also possibly not solve it until the sixth row, something which would not achieve my goal, I again chose a word (BELOW) to guarantee a solution in five rows.
As you can see, since the W received the hit and not the B, I knew the word was WATCH. (If the W also didn't receive any feedback, the answer would have to be HATCH.)
Quote: WizardI am in idiot.
It turned into a guessing game after three turns. Four possible words and three tries left. Of course, the correct answer is the one I didn't pick.
I wonder if the NYT polls people with questions like "choose a five-letter word that ends in ..." and they go with the response chosen the least. To be honest, that is the kind thing I would do.
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Mike, if you look at mine in my previous post ours are almost exactly the same! (P.S. I’ll start using the spoiler format on here rather than the Wordle share format)
Quote: HotBlondeMike, if you look at mine in my previous post ours are almost exactly the same! (P.S. I’ll start using the spoiler format on here rather than the Wordle share format)
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Great minds think alike! Glad you're participating.
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Honestly got lucky. Was debating between three different choices for attempt 6. Picked the right one.
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Quote: WizardQuote: HotBlondeMike, if you look at mine in my previous post ours are almost exactly the same! (P.S. I’ll start using the spoiler format on here rather than the Wordle share format)
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Great minds think alike! Glad you're participating.
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I cannot figure out how to post an image. I understand the image tag, just not how to attach. Is there a post with details I can brush up on?
Quote: IndyJeffreyNot bad...
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Me too. I finally was on the favorable side of a 50-50 guess.
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Quote: IndyJeffreyQuote: WizardQuote: HotBlondeMike, if you look at mine in my previous post ours are almost exactly the same! (P.S. I’ll start using the spoiler format on here rather than the Wordle share format)
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Great minds think alike! Glad you're participating.
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I cannot figure out how to post an image. I understand the image tag, just not how to attach. Is there a post with details I can brush up on?
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One way is to first save the image on your computer. Next, click on "Insert My Picture" at the bottom of the screen as shown below.
And finally, find the picture on your computer by clicking on "Choose File".
There are a total of 2,309 valid Wordle puzzle answers. This total uses the current recent word list, which recently removed AGORA, PUPAL, FIBRE, SLAVE, LYNCH, WENCH.
2,309 x 5 letters per word = a total of 11,545 letters in the list. I tabulated the number of occurrences of each of those 11,545 letters:
E... 1,230
A... 975
R... 897
O... 753
T... 729
L... 716
I... 670
S... 668
N... 573
C... 475
U... 466
Y... 424
D... 393
H... 387
P... 365
M... 316
G... 310
B... 280
F... 229
K... 210
W... 194
V... 152
Z... 40
X... 37
Q... 29
J... 27
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Total: 11,545
When making guesses, words that include letters near the bottom of this letter frequency list should be avoided if you can use a word containing letters near the top of the list. In either case, assuming your guess is not correct, words used that include letters used near the bottom of the list won't reduce the number of valid words remaining as much as using words that include letters near the top of the list.
Here's an example. In a recent game I knew the word TRAIN was still valid. In fact, later I determined TRAIN was one of just 23 possible remaining answers.
Also valid answers for this puzzle included the words JUNTA, QUOTA, and TOPAZ.
TRAIN was a much better guess than any of these other possibles.
If TRAIN was incorrect (a 22/23 chance), at worst it would have reduced my search space to just three remaining words.
If I had used TOPAZ as my guess, if that was incorrect (also 22/23 probability), at worst it would have reduced my search space to eight remaining words.
And yet if I used JUNTA as my guess, if that was incorrect it would have reduced my search space to ten remaining words.
Finally, if my guess of QUOTA was incorrect, at worst it would have reduced my search space to twelve remaining words.
Clearly, using words which include the letters Z, Q, X, Z, etc., when it turns out to be incorrect, won't give you much more information as you would otherwise, when using more common letters.
Of course, assuming the puzzle answers are determined randomly, yes, it's just as likely the puzzle answer is JUNTA and not TRAIN. That's not the point. Yes, both have an equal chance of being correct, but you should play the percentages since when both are wrong, playing JUNTA doesn't help you as much with your next guess.
Letter | 1st Letter | 2nd Letter | 3rd Letter | 4th Letter | 5th Letter | Total |
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a | 140 | 304 | 306 | 162 | 63 | 975 |
b | 173 | 16 | 56 | 24 | 11 | 280 |
c | 198 | 40 | 56 | 150 | 31 | 475 |
d | 111 | 20 | 75 | 69 | 118 | 393 |
e | 72 | 241 | 177 | 318 | 422 | 1230 |
f | 135 | 8 | 25 | 35 | 26 | 229 |
g | 115 | 11 | 67 | 76 | 41 | 310 |
h | 69 | 144 | 9 | 28 | 137 | 387 |
i | 34 | 201 | 266 | 158 | 11 | 670 |
j | 20 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 27 |
k | 20 | 10 | 12 | 55 | 113 | 210 |
l | 87 | 200 | 112 | 162 | 155 | 716 |
m | 107 | 38 | 61 | 68 | 42 | 316 |
n | 37 | 87 | 137 | 182 | 130 | 573 |
o | 41 | 279 | 243 | 132 | 58 | 753 |
p | 141 | 61 | 57 | 50 | 56 | 365 |
q | 23 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 29 |
r | 105 | 267 | 163 | 150 | 212 | 897 |
s | 365 | 16 | 80 | 171 | 36 | 668 |
t | 149 | 77 | 111 | 139 | 253 | 729 |
u | 33 | 185 | 165 | 82 | 1 | 466 |
v | 43 | 15 | 49 | 45 | 0 | 152 |
w | 82 | 44 | 26 | 25 | 17 | 194 |
x | 0 | 14 | 12 | 3 | 8 | 37 |
y | 6 | 22 | 29 | 3 | 364 | 424 |
z | 3 | 2 | 11 | 20 | 4 | 40 |
Total | 2,309 | 2,309 | 2,309 | 2,309 | 2,309 | 11,545 |
Quote: WizTable format corrected by Moderator. Please close your tables properly.
If we arbitrarily score a single yellow box as "one point" and score a green box as, say, "two points," this is a total of just two points of "Clue Data" prior to solving the puzzle. I might not have a lower Clue Data score for a long time.
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By my third guess I eventually determined there were just three valid words remaining (BONUS, FOCUS, and USURP)... and this time I guessed correctly.
Any of the rest of you think you can do as well as I did today?
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