What is the more laudable job -- a teacher or trucking executive?
Quote: Wavy70Why in the world would you believe what someone on line claims they earn?
Well, I don't 100% believe ANYTHING Jerry says, including his own name, but his repeated bragging about how much money he makes carries the ring of truth, because it's so very very important to him, and such a crucial component of his image of self-worth. Usually only wealthy people think that wealth is the true measure of a person. Plus, he exhibits the rabid racism, homophobia, ethnocentricity, and extreme conservatism that is a hallmark of many of this country's sort-of-wealthy persons. (The VERY wealthy usually know better.)
I do admit, though, that Jerry could very easily be a homeless person that breaks into offices and libraries to use other people's computers, and his only income comes from selling deposit cans and bottles at the recycling center. You never know, and we certainly don't have any proof that Jerry even has a job, let alone makes the beeeeeeg $$$$$$.
Quote: Wavy70Have you ever noticed that people who really have money very seldom find the need to tell everyone.
You weren't paying attention. I do not think that I have that much money compared to many others. It's MKL who sees it as a windfall because of how little he makes.
Quote: Wavy70Why in the world would you believe what someone on line claims they earn?
why would anyone believe anything on-line, including the words of someone who stays anonymous?
Quote: JerryLoganSo confused...and so assertive-filled as usual. You forgot to claim to know that I have a nice retirement account that probably has an unfathonable amount in it (to you anyway). I pay around $45000 in taxes but I'm contributing to the future of this world by having two children in college, unlike a loner would have of course. Oh, the house? Hmmm....it's half paid for. But it's certainly not the massive investment that an Oregon apartment would be!
I still wanna know what kind of junker you drive. Let's see....a liberal school teacher in Oregon who makes very little money: Scion Xb! Or maybe a Prius! Gotta be one of those greenie types. Either way, I'm betting it's not new and in fact his students laugh at it & him!
I've already paid to put three children through college. No, not my own children. But, so what?
And you're still gonna wonder...and still gonna be guessing...and still gonna be wrong. And still be a tin-plated jerk about it, too.
Quote: JerryLoganwhy would anyone believe anything on-line, including the words of someone who stays anonymous?
I made no claims they needed to be believed or disbelieved. As to anonymity aren't we all more or less anonymous on line?
I'm sure many people use a name of a sports figure when they post.
Quote: Wavy70I made no claims they needed to be believed or disbelieved. As to anonymity aren't we all more or less anonymous on line?
I'm sure many people use a name of a sports figure when they post.
I wasn't talking about you. I understand the desire for anonymity on-line, but when someone posts gobs of assertions that can't be supported as MKL does, you tend to want to know more about what drives such a person to make so many things up.
I post with my real name, I've told people where I live and who I work for, I've identified my salary just as MKL has done, and I don't have a problem with it because it really doesn't make a difference. If it's bothersome then I need not open up the forum anymore and it all just goes away.
Quote: JerryLoganI wasn't talking about you. I understand the desire for anonymity on-line, but when someone posts gobs of assertions that can't be supported as MKL does, you tend to want to know more about what drives such a person to make so many things up.
I post with my real name, I've told people where I live and who I work for, I've identified my salary just as MKL has done, and I don't have a problem with it because it really doesn't make a difference. If it's bothersome then I need not open up the forum anymore and it all just goes away.
Just out of curiosity why in the world would you post all that personal information about yourself on an online forum?
Quote: Wavy70Just out of curiosity why in the world would you post all that personal information about yourself on an online forum?
Because for some persons, the need for self-aggrandizement outweighs any rational sense of caution. I would be worried about losing my job, if I were Jerry.
Quote: mkl654321Because for some persons, the need for self-aggrandizement outweighs any rational sense of caution. I would be worried about losing my job, if I were Jerry.
uh-oh...then maybe I'll HAVE to win my bet on Sunday so my next 10 weeks will be covered (if I'm accepted at the local elementary school as a teacher, that is)!
Quote: JerryLoganuh-oh...then maybe I'll HAVE to win my bet on Sunday so my next 10 weeks will be covered (if I'm accepted at the local elementary school as a teacher, that is)!
You could never be a teacher, because:
1. You are uneducated.
2. You have a fairly poor grasp of the English language.
3. You're a thoroughly abrasive and unpleasant person, and that would show at your job interview.
I could easily do your job with a week's training. You could NEVER do mine.
1. The pay is humiliatingly low.
2. I have a family, and a teacher's pay would make me feel like a slug to them.
3. I'd have to go in to work with a bunch of others like you, and that would simply make me laugh too much for comfort.
4. Did I mention the low pay?
I also suspect neither of you could do my job.
So therefore I have the biggest swinging dick here.
Whoop!
This discussion was moved here, from another thread it had diverted, and given a title related to how "laudable" jobs are. It has evolved into how "desirable" a job is, as well as whether individuals would be qualified.
This inspires me to comment on my own job: I haven't worked a day in years, and I'm loving every minute of it. Sleep late, take trips to casinos when I want, go elsewhere when the mood strikes me -- guess that explains how I can hang out around this forum as many hours as I choose. How many of you are jealous? Eat your dang hearts out!
Quote: JerryLoganI could NEVER be a teacher because:
1. The pay is humiliatingly low.
2. I have a family, and a teacher's pay would make me feel like a slug to them.
3. I'd have to go in to work with a bunch of others like you, and that would simply make me laugh too much for comfort.
4. Did I mention the low pay?
Do you actually KNOW how much the average teacher makes?
I thought not.
Quote: DocMy first post to this thread in about four pages -- things have been active here today!
This discussion was moved here, from another thread it had diverted, and given a title related to how "laudable" jobs are. It has evolved into how "desirable" a job is, as well as whether individuals would be qualified.
This inspires me to comment on my own job: I haven't worked a day in years, and I'm loving every minute of it. Sleep late, take trips to casinos when I want, go elsewhere when the mood strikes me -- guess that explains how I can hang out around this forum as many hours as I choose. How many of you are jealous? Eat your dang hearts out!
I love my job as well. The work is fascinating, I'm in a very friendly and supportive environment, I'm performing a valuable service, and (whisper whisper, don't tell Jerry) I get paid pretty well for doing it: I work 176 days a year, and get full benefits, including medical insurance and a pension.
Recent advances in educational theory have made my field a dynamic and growing one, with more and better resources becoming available as time goes on. Our class sizes are increasing due to budget constraints, but we have new methods that let us parcel out our time more efficiently. One exciting development has been the explication of the process of teaching to different learning methods, i.e., to the visual learner, the aural learner, the experiential learner, etc. We do more with what we have available than ever before.
And whatever the relative pay scales, it sure beats sitting in a basement and screaming at truckers over a radio. Though it probably doesn't beat YOUR "job".
Quote: weaselmanWell these "debris" aren't exactly "on the road" he is driving on though. One has to go a little bit out of one's way to click on the the thread (already knowing who started it), read through a full page of posts, and then take time to write a response.
It's more than just looking at the debris, more like stopping your car in the middle of the road, and getting out to take a really good look, isn't it?
True. When I said worthless, it's akin to watching a baseball game and taking interest as the ballpark security hauls the streaker off the field. The value of this forum is the remarks pertaining to gambling. It's always interesting to watch the streaker get hauled off the field, but when there are another 1,000 streakers to follow, I just want the game to be played.
Quote: JerryLoganSound good but I'm 20 years from retirement so I can't really relate. I also have a wife with expensive tastes and kids in college. Besides, I enjoy sparring with truck drivers as I push them to get their jobs done faster and more efficiently.
Jerry, I wonder what it is that you do to make drivers get their jobs done faster and more efficiently? Before you answer, I would like you to know that I have several years invested in the transportation industry on both sides of the phone, so calling BS will be real easy. Also, who is it you work for? I missed that post. Just curious about these things.
And as a sidebar, my sainted mother was a HS English teacher. What she did was MUCH more important than what I do, but of course, her salary was a fraction of mine. She is much happier than I am. And I know there is no way I could do her job. I guess it is all about priorities.
Quote: avargovJerry, I wonder what it is that you do to make drivers get their jobs done faster and more efficiently? Before you answer, I would like you to know that I have several years invested in the transportation industry on both sides of the phone, so calling BS will be real easy. Also, who is it you work for? I missed that post. Just curious about these things.
And as a sidebar, my sainted mother was a HS English teacher. What she did was MUCH more important than what I do, but of course, her salary was a fraction of mine. She is much happier than I am. And I know there is no way I could do her job. I guess it is all about priorities.
Careful. Jerry's going to start insulting your mother, because she didn't make much money, and in his eyes, was therefore worthless.
avargov, it seems that Jerry may be away from the forum at the mement. In his absence, you might take a look at the last few lines of this post, where Jerry listed his employer and position title.Quote: avargov.... But who knows...of course without knowing, I will guess the company he works for is very small, and I wouldn't know anything about them.......sigh
Quote: avargovAhh MKL, I couldn't care less if he insulted my mother, and my mother wouldn't care either. I just want to hear his response to my question. I will know if the first paragraph if he is full of s#!/, and will disregard all the rest. The money he talks about seems to be way out of line in the current economic climate for his claimed position. But who knows...of course without knowing, I will guess the company he works for is very small, and I wouldn't know anything about them.......sigh
A cursory search puts them at a three billion dollar company in the nasdaq one hundred...
Quote: avargovJerry, I wonder what it is that you do to make drivers get their jobs done faster and more efficiently? Before you answer, I would like you to know that I have several years invested in the transportation industry on both sides of the phone, so calling BS will be real easy. Also, who is it you work for? I missed that post. Just curious about these things.
And as a sidebar, my sainted mother was a HS English teacher. What she did was MUCH more important than what I do, but of course, her salary was a fraction of mine. She is much happier than I am. And I know there is no way I could do her job. I guess it is all about priorities.
At first glance I see someone who's irritated with me. That's good. I enjoy frustrating those of lesser value. Ask mkl about that.
You also must have missed how happy WE are and how well WE live. You see, I don't live on my mother's apron any more.
Speaking of teaching, since you're so schooled in the trucking industry (eh-em, on both sides of the "phone") then you would know precisely what a Regional Operations VP does, unless, of course, your are only familiar with mom & pop local train wreck outfits. We have computers & GPS in each of our cabs that record everything. The biggest problem (and you supposedly should know this) with drivers is getting them to drive within legal time limits and take their rests accordingly, and still always meet pickup & delivery schedules. Hard for some of them especially during the holidays. I'll leave the rest up to your expertise and ability to call "BS".
Quote: JerryLoganAt first glance I see someone who's irritated with me. That's good. I enjoy frustrating those of lesser value. Ask mkl about that.
You also must have missed how happy WE are and how well WE live. You see, I don't live on my mother's apron any more.
Speaking of teaching, since you're so schooled in the trucking industry (eh-em, on both sides of the "phone") then you would know precisely what a Regional Operations VP does, unless, of course, your are only familiar with mom & pop local train wreck outfits. We have computers & GPS in each of our cabs that record everything. The biggest problem (and you supposedly should know this) with drivers is getting them to drive within legal time limits and take their rests accordingly, and still always meet pickup & delivery schedules. Hard for some of them especially during the holidays. I'll leave the rest up to your expertise and ability to call "BS".
I think this response to avargov shows the utter futility of trying to talk to JerryLogan like a human being.
