Divorce to Marriage Ratio

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I've been reading some articles stating that the US divorce rate is dropping but it isn't necessarily good news. The reason why seems to be that fewer people are actually getting married. Those that do tend to be older, college educated people with solid career paths. Thus, financial insecurity--a major cause of divorce--is taken off the table. Millennials without college are now often turning to cohabitation as a marriage alternative and so their plight is off the marriage/divorce radar.

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I've been reading some articles stating that the US divorce rate is dropping but it isn't necessarily good news. The reason why seems to be that fewer people are actually getting married. Those that do tend to be older, college educated people with solid career paths. Thus, financial insecurity--a major cause of divorce--is taken off the table. Millennials without college are now often turning to cohabitation as a marriage alternative and so their plight is off the marriage/divorce radar.

When I was in elementary school it was very rare that a kid did not have both parents married. Even controlling that I was in Catholic school in most of the grades there were about 60-80 kids. You might have had 1-2 who lost a dad in Vietnam or some other untimely way and 1-2 who had parents who split. Maybe 1-2 in a "Brady Bunch" family. That was about it.

Today in any given school that will be about half. The rest are single moms in some level of cohabitation. It has now been this way for some time. I have worked with several women over the years with kids and BF living in. Occasionaly but rarely one would squeeze the guy into marriage. The rest it just went on for years.

The kids grow up around this and see it as normal. Like Karen Hill said abut mafia life, living around it and everyone doing it eventually it all seemed perfectly normal. We all have something that we now see as unusual but as a kid we grew up around it and figured it was what people did.

So now you have a generation of people to whom it seemed normal repeating it. In general it is bad for the women and good for the men. If you are in the business or renting residential property it is good, if you host weddings it is bad.

I have friends who have been divorced and remarried and they don't seem any worse for wear. Sure it's a major upheaval in your life but once you get over it, it doesn't seem too bad. I think society as a whole is realizing that divorce is not as big a deal as people once thought, and seeing it as "normal" might be a good thing. Better than spending the rest of your life with someone you don't want to.

I'd be curious how the legalization of same sex marriages effects the divorce rate. Far too many marriages are the result of a couple getting pregnant, which shouldn't be a factor in same sex couples, and the financial strain of children is probably not much of a factor.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.
As an aside, gr8owing up on Army bases, I honestly don't recall any of my friends parents being divorced .

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I'd be curious how the legalization of same sex marriages effects the divorce rate. Far too many marriages are the result of a couple getting pregnant, which shouldn't be a factor in same sex couples, and the financial strain of children is probably not much of a factor.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.

I agree with you. I also think just because the struggles that same sex couples go through they are probably waiting longer to get married which would probably improve their odds of staying together.

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I'd be curious how the legalization of same sex marriages effects the divorce rate. Far too many marriages are the result of a couple getting pregnant, which shouldn't be a factor in same sex couples, and the financial strain of children is probably not much of a factor.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.

I agree with you. I also think just because the struggles that same sex couples go through they are probably waiting longer to get married which would probably improve their odds of staying together.
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There is a quirky, bizarre fact that just came from England. According to newly released government statistics, women in the UK are more likely to get divorced than men. How can this be? Until recently it couldn't but, as mentioned, same-sex marriage brings same-sex divorce in its wake.

The stats show that 67.2% of same-sex divorces last year were between women. So UK women are divorcing women at a rate of two-to-one against UK men divorcing men. This is actually an improvement over the year before when women divorcing women accounted for almost 75% of same-sex divorces. If you pull back and consider all marriages, however, it becomes a mere statistical oddity. The average British woman's marriage has a 0.1% greater chance of ending in divorce than the average man's.

The stats also show that the UK divorce rate, which had been dropping since the beginning of the century, has spiked in the last few years. The culprit appears to be Covid. Although many European countries thought (in many cases hoped) that lockdowns would increase the birthrate, it appears the only increases have been in the bank accounts of divorce attorneys.

But perhaps society should just be happy that anyone is getting married at all. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the younger generation seems to be eschewing the institution almost entirely. Yes, the British divorce rate is on a downward trend, but this is likely because only the couples who really, really want to tie the knot will do it. The new statistics also reveal the marriage rate in the UK to be at its lowest level since the year 1862.

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