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August 8th, 2018 at 10:22:24 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Here is the truly final round 13. The leaders are the two people who have lead once only and the six people who have lead twice, but never since and including round 8. So, there will be eight teams this round. Prize pool is $20 for a mixture of shares and steals and $40 for all shares.

Votes due 9 AM Vegas time on Friday.

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1 gordonm888 Keeneone, OnceDear, Joeman, Mikey75
2 troopscott DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, SOOPOO, Torghatten
3 Ayecarumba PlayYourCardsRight, Mission146, gamerfreak
4 djatc GWAE, Dalex64, RS
5 Face prozema, miplet, beachbumbabs
6 Keeneone MidwestAP, JohnnyQ, PokerGrinder
7 MaxPen Romes, Jufo81, AxelWolf
8 onenickelmiracle Nathan, SM777, UKMark



I'm on Onenickelmiracle's Team! Yay! :D
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:30:14 AM permalink
Can we all share this round?
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:31:24 AM permalink
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From page 208I sent a Share PM immediately after reading Mike’s post stating that I was a team leader.



Same, have a screenshot on my phone.

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I’m not sure what prompted me to switch, but, the time stamp on my change vote PM was August 6, 2018 3:34 pm.



Mine was close to that.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:31:44 AM permalink
Quote: troopscott

Can we all share this round?



Yeah, that’s cute.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:34:04 AM permalink
I was only a captain once but I’m perfectly fine with sitting back and watching the train wreck lol.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:34:38 AM permalink
Quote: troopscott

Can we all share this round?



Can you? I can.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:38:41 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Yeah, that’s cute.



Wizard did say that if EVERYONE shares, he'll double the pot to $100 last Round. It seemed the right way to go until people began stealing anyways and then there was no real reason to still stick with Share so Steal became the better ideal.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:43:19 AM permalink
I don’t have any power this round, but here’s my suggestion: Let’s not play games.

AyeCarumba-Independent-Steal
DJATC-Independent-Steal
MaxPen-Small Pool-Steal
OneNickelMiracle-Independent-Steal

Let one of the other four captains share or everyone gets nothing, screw it. Given the average competency of the big pool at this game, chances are at least three of them will share.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:44:44 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Can you? I can.



I can for this round since mission is not involved
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:51:32 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

From page 205As much as I’m friends with Mike, and would have followed his instructions, that would have been a big violation of Mike’s own rules.



From page 208I sent a Share PM immediately after reading Mike’s post stating that I was a team leader.

I’m not sure what prompted me to switch, but, the time stamp on my change vote PM was August 6, 2018 3:34 pm


I then tried to mess with peoples heads, trying to make people think I switched back and maybe others would also so I could scoop the steal. It was worth a shot.

Had you let me know you were committed to sharing I think we could have had an all share round. I would have at least tried my best to get others to all share.

Mike said he COULD encourage people to steal and mess with people. He just could not bribe them.

Anyways, I really think there's a good possibility with the team captains(i didn't really look at the composition of the teams yet) we have in this final round to get an all share vote.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:55:16 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Had you let me know you were committed to sharing I think we could have had an all share round. I would have at least tried my best to get others to all share.



Your other teammates were dead set against offering any value to MidwestAP to share. All they had to do in the beginning was offer those two value or let them in the big pool, and I’d have been perfectly happy to share.

I had my share vote in immediately.


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Anyways, I really think there's a good possibility with the team captains(i didn't really look at the composition of the teams yet) we have in this final round to get an all share vote.



I refuse. If this round is an all share, I block everybody in this game for two years.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:57:41 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Your other teammates were dead set against offering any value to MidwestAP to share. All they had to do in the beginning was offer those two value or let them in the big pool, and I’d have been perfectly happy to share.

I had my share vote in immediately.




I refuse. If this round is an all share, I block everybody in this game for two years.



No need to get hasty, Mission. :/ Blocking everyone in this game for two years? :O O.O
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:00:09 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146






I refuse. If this round is an all share, I block everybody in this game for two years.

So that's like superduper +EV then.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:01:37 AM permalink
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No need to get hasty, Mission. :/ Blocking everyone in this game for two years? :O O.O

Don't worry Nathan. So you can keep in touch with him, if he follows through on his offer threat, I'll PM you his cell number and mailing address so you can keep in touch. Or you can go pester chat to him on that lottery forum of yours.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:04:27 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

No need to get hasty, Mission. :/ Blocking everyone in this game for two years? :O O.O



Yeah, I tried to be chill about it, but it’s not happening.

No reason an All Share couldn’t get done last round aside from vindictiveness. Do you guys think losing is funny? I can promise you all that Wizard enjoyed last round’s result.

If we weren’t good enough to work with then we aren’t now.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:05:43 AM permalink
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Don't worry Nathan. So you can keep in touch with him, if he follows through on his offer threat, I'll PM you his cell number and mailing address so you can keep in touch. Or you can go pester chat to him on that lottery forum of yours.



He’s bluffing, he doesn’t have my number. The international surcharge would be obscene.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:31:56 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I’ll tell you guys this: If I were in the big pool, I can’t say for sure I wouldn’t take my funds out at the end if I had more than the mean big pool average.

I wouldn’t want to, but at a certain point, Romes, OnceDear, TroopScott and SOOPOO, blame needs to be assigned for the woeful inadequacy that is your performance last round.

Okay, I nominate the blame to Mission, for not even being in our pool and doing nothing but demeaning us and our decisions despite the fact that the large pool, with no central leadership, has managed to capture the VAST majority of the wizards money for our pool.

Thanks for continuing to try to stir our pot, that you're not in.

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Tell Romes that once he comes back to this side of the track, he’s halfway around on his victory lap!

The only way the big pool could have done worse is if three or four big pool captains had shared. So, I offer my congratulations, you guys played in only the third worst way possible.

Meantime, 3/4 Small poolers got paid. That’s 75%. I believe a lesser percentage of big poolers got paid than that, but you’ll have to check my math on that one.

Okay, this has been all in good fun (at least from my end) but I'm pretty much done with the personality you've brought to this thread. The ONLY WAY we could have made last round better was to have 1 more captain steal. So yeah, I'll take the 2nd best way possible given all sharing was NEVER going to be an option. If you feel differently, then go write it in your diary. Your OPINIONS don't matter to us, and you're not even in the big pool so why do you care? Why do you consistently try to degrade and berate us when you're not even in the big pool?

Quote: Mission146

...Let one of the other four captains share or everyone gets nothing, screw it. Given the average competency of the big pool at this game, chances are at least three of them will share.

Ayeeeee you made it to where I've been feeling, but a little late. Should I now make at least a dozen posts berating you and how INCOMPETENT your play is, like you have???

Round 13 - don't care, do what you all wish.. I'll be waiting to actually have fun with the pooled money in either an AP play or whatever the masses vote.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:41:41 AM permalink
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Yeah, I tried to be chill about it, but it’s not happening.

No reason an All Share couldn’t get done last round aside from vindictiveness. Do you guys think losing is funny? I can promise you all that Wizard enjoyed last round’s result.

If we weren’t good enough to work with then we aren’t now.

I really think the problem was the fact that DJTB was f*****g around. Even if he was always committed to sharing from the start, it doesn't matter one bit unless others believe it to be true. Had that not been the case(him f*****g around), I do think with the right approach and some behind the scenes PM's it wouldn't have been that hard to get a full share round.

I think this round would be moderately easy unless we have someone like you who is committed to stealing. Personally, I understand your scorched earth tactic and need for vengeance. I won't stand in your way or try to convince you to change your mind(you go girl *Z-snap). However, if you do calm down and change your mind, I might be up for leading an all share campaign.

It's just not worth the time and effort if there's even just one unreasonable person or someone dead set on playing little side games.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:46:25 AM permalink
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Okay, I nominate the blame to Mission, for not even being in our pool and doing nothing but demeaning us and our decisions despite the fact that the large pool, with no central leadership, has managed to capture the VAST majority of the wizards money for our pool.



1.) The Big Pool questioned us first and had players dead set against working with us from the beginning.

2.) You have the VAST majority of players. You’ve also managed to capture vastly less of Wizard’s money than optimal.

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If you feel differently, then go write it in your diary. Your OPINIONS don't matter to us, and you're not even in the big pool so why do you care? Why do you consistently try to degrade and berate us when you're not even in the big pool?



There comes a time that somebody sucks so badly at something that he should be told about it.

DJ and I HAD ALREADY SHARED, all you really had to do was get Midwest on board.

Keep writing your delusional narrative of what took place last round, if it makes you feel better.

I’m berating you because Axelwolf and BBB are too polite to do so.


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Ayeeeee you made it to where I've been feeling, but a little late. Should I now make at least a dozen posts berating you and how INCOMPETENT your play is, like you have???

Round 13 - don't care, do what you all wish.. I'll be waiting to actually have fun with the pooled money in either an AP play or whatever the masses vote.



Feel free. Here’s what I did prior to last round:

1. Announced I would do nothing but share.
2. Did nothing but sharing and encouraging sharing.

I couldn’t join the big pool if I had wanted to, or Wizard would have no incentive to make me a leader. Do you think Wizard would do seven leaders who are all in the big pool?

So, I did everything I could to make it clear I could be trusted, other than joining the small pool.

I even sent PM’s to people I was bickering with in this thread to the effect that I’d always share. Gordonm888 and OnceDear were going at it with me for show, though I don’t know what TroopScott was thinking, he never opened the PM.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:52:15 AM permalink
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No need to get hasty, Mission. :/ Blocking everyone in this game for two years? :O O.O



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August 8th, 2018 at 11:55:10 AM permalink
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DJ and I HAD ALREADY SHARED

Read my post above. It's meaningless what he did if you can convince others what your intentions really are. This game is about convincing other people you are telling the truth and will stick to your commitments. If everyone trusts that everyone else is going to share they are more likely to share themselves. Ya, there's not much you can do about a few members when they are captains who are selfish and love to steal.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:55:14 AM permalink
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I really think the problem was the fact that DJTB was f*****g around. Even if he was always committed to sharing from the start, it doesn't matter one bit unless others believe it to be true. Had that not been the case(him f*****g around), I do think with the right approach and some behind the scenes PM's it wouldn't have been that hard to get a full share round.



When you have people in your own big pool literally paying if enough people steal, it becomes difficult. You also have SOOPOO who absolutely refused to give independents any value.

Somehow people seem to think that as much money would be put into the game if 33/33 players were big poolers. That notion makes absolutely no sense at all. This is a game of trust, so you have to have people who at least LOOK like they might not cooperate, or there’s nothing interesting about the game for Wizard.

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I think this round would be moderately easy unless we have someone like you who is committed to stealing. Personally, I understand your scorched earth tactic and need for vengeance. I won't stand in your way or try to convince you to change your mind(you go girl *Z-snap). However, if you do calm down and change your mind, I might be up for leading an all share campaign.

It's just not worth the time and effort if there's even just one unreasonable person or someone dead set on playing little side games.



Not acceptable. If getting as much money from Mike as possible wasn’t the right way to play last round, then it must not be the right way to play this round. I hope everybody steals and nobody gets anything, that’s what all of us deserve for how badly we screwed this game up.
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August 8th, 2018 at 11:58:09 AM permalink
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I can for this round since mission is not involved



Then share it is. Can all other captains confirm? Maybe we can get this done in less than 3 pages. 👀
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:01:27 PM permalink
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Here is the truly final round 13. The leaders are the two people who have lead once only and the six people who have lead twice, but never since and including round 8. So, there will be eight teams this round. Prize pool is $20 for a mixture of shares and steals and $40 for all shares.

Votes due 9 AM Vegas time on Friday.

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 gordonm888 Keeneone, OnceDear, Joeman, Mikey75
2 troopscott DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, SOOPOO, Torghatten
3 Ayecarumba PlayYourCardsRight, Mission146, gamerfreak
4 djatc GWAE, Dalex64, RS
5 Face prozema, miplet, beachbumbabs
6 Keeneone MidwestAP, JohnnyQ, PokerGrinder
7 MaxPen Romes, Jufo81, AxelWolf
8 onenickelmiracle Nathan, SM777, UKMark



Here is the team list from 4 pages ago.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:01:54 PM permalink
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Then share it is. Can all other captains confirm? Maybe we can get this done in less than 3 pages. 👀



This is why the Final Round should have been a Rogue Round where everyone chooses either Share or Steal by themselves, for themselves. Look at what a Mess this game is turning out to be at this very moment.
It started off as s much fun. Would have been so much better as a Rogue Round.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:02:14 PM permalink
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Read my post above. It's meaningless what he did if you can convince others what your intentions really are. This game is about convincing other people you are telling the truth and will stick to your commitments. If everyone trusts that everyone else is going to share they are more likely to share themselves. Ya, there's not much you can do about a few members when they are captains who are selfish and love to steal.



It doesn’t work if nobody is going to give Midwest a proper incentive to share, anyway. They didn’t even try to let him in the big pool. They refused to allow anyone in the big pool.

You had people in the big pool refusing to do business with anyone.

They also called me out because RS was on my team. Why the hell wouldn’t I share?

We can paraphrase PM’s in this game. Just ask AyeCarumba, he opened last round practically begging me to steal and I gave him a flat, “No.” I told him no vote would matter, and even if there was a vote, our team was him, RS, two big poolers and myself, so the vote would be share anyway.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:05:22 PM permalink
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Not acceptable. If getting as much money from Mike as possible wasn’t the right way to play last round, then it must not be the right way to play this round. I hope everybody steals and nobody gets anything, that’s what all of us deserve for how badly we screwed this game up.

Wrong-way value wise, yes, perhaps. It seems as if DJTB got some value entertainment wise.

I think you are missing the point I'm trying to make. It all comes down to who the captains are and who's leading the campaign. What would have happened if you didn't go all batshit crazy and just chilled last round? It may have been your long-winded technical posts that made people uneasy and confused.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:10:51 PM permalink
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Then share it is. Can all other captains confirm? Maybe we can get this done in less than 3 pages. 👀

It won't happen. I can almost guarantee one particular captain will absolutely steal unless Mission calms down and takes back his blocking everyone statement.

And then there's Nathan. (I don't think Mike picked her at random)
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:12:18 PM permalink
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I think you are missing the point I'm trying to make. It all comes down to who the captains are and who's leading the campaign. What would have happened if you didn't go all batshit crazy and just chilled last round? It may have been your long-winded technical posts that made people uneasy and confused.



Nothing confused SOOPOO or TroopScott, they weren’t working with anyone anyway.

TroopScott tried to send me a PM to encourage an ALL STEAL the first round I was a captain to teach people who weren’t in the big pool a lesson. The funny thing about that was he somehow thought I was in the big pool. What was that, Round 6?

That’s how well he plays this game. He sends PM’s to non big poolers to get them to collude against non big poolers.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:17:55 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Then share it is. Can all other captains confirm? Maybe we can get this done in less than 3 pages. 👀



Very likely.
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August 8th, 2018 at 12:18:15 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It won't happen. I can almost guarantee one particular captain will absolutely steal unless Mission calms down and takes back his blocking everyone statement.

And then there's Nathan. (I don't think Mike picked her at random)



That person should be honored to be blocked.🙈
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:01:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It won't happen. I can almost guarantee one particular captain will absolutely steal unless Mission calms down and takes back his blocking everyone statement.



It can happen easily. Not a single one of us is an agent of chaos. I see 5 dudes I wouldn't think twice about, 1 i don't know too well but am totally confident in, and one that's about as good natured as they come. Those who would like to jerk around for kicks will easily sacrifice that pleasure for the obvious opiate of finishing properly.

Feel free to play your games, though. Just do so quietly; the adults are speaking.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:05:36 PM permalink
I was done with this "game" several rounds ago. Didn't need a bonus round for people to keep carping at each other, especially people who are supposedly friends.

So, Face, do as you like.

I would greatly prefer this bickering would stop.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:13:29 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It seems as if DJTB got some value entertainment wise.

Ding, ding, ding!

LOADS of entertainment.

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August 8th, 2018 at 1:18:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Here is the truly final round 13. The leaders are the two people who have lead once only and the six people who have lead twice, but never since and including round 8. So, there will be eight teams this round. Prize pool is $20 for a mixture of shares and steals and $40 for all shares.

Votes due 9 AM Vegas time on Friday.

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 gordonm888 Keeneone, OnceDear, Joeman, Mikey75
2 troopscott DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, SOOPOO, Torghatten
3 Ayecarumba PlayYourCardsRight, Mission146, gamerfreak
4 djatc GWAE, Dalex64, RS
5 Face prozema, miplet, beachbumbabs
6 Keeneone MidwestAP, JohnnyQ, PokerGrinder
7 MaxPen Romes, Jufo81, AxelWolf
8 onenickelmiracle Nathan, SM777, UKMark


I am listed on Team 1 as a follower and listed as Leader of Team 6.

I guess I could say nothing and figure out an ap angle for this anomaly, but who has the time...



Quote: PokerGrinder

I was only a captain once but I’m perfectly fine with sitting back and watching the train wreck lol.


Feel free to let PG be the Leader of Team 6, he loves trains.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:21:49 PM permalink
1. My first preference would be an all-share.

2. If that's not happening I will work with other big pool captains.

3. I also welcome input from my team members.

4. Mission, I like you guy, but how about relaxing on this round?
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:27:40 PM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

Quote: Wizard

Here is the truly final round 13. The leaders are the two people who have lead once only and the six people who have lead twice, but never since and including round 8. So, there will be eight teams this round. Prize pool is $20 for a mixture of shares and steals and $40 for all shares.

Votes due 9 AM Vegas time on Friday.

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 gordonm888 Keeneone, OnceDear, Joeman, Mikey75
2 troopscott DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, SOOPOO, Torghatten
3 Ayecarumba PlayYourCardsRight, Mission146, gamerfreak
4 djatc GWAE, Dalex64, RS
5 Face prozema, miplet, beachbumbabs
6 Keeneone MidwestAP, JohnnyQ, PokerGrinder
7 MaxPen Romes, Jufo81, AxelWolf
8 onenickelmiracle Nathan, SM777, UKMark


I am listed on Team 1 as a follower and listed as Leader of Team 6.

I guess I could say nothing and figure out an ap angle for this anomaly, but who has the time...




Feel free to let PG be the Leader of Team 6, he loves trains.



I would be in favor of PG as leader of Team 6, but KeeneOne would need to stay on team 6 to maintain balance.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:34:48 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

1. My first preference would be an all-share.

4. Mission, I like you guy, but how about relaxing on this round?



Sure thing. There’s nothing else for me to do anyway, but suffice it to say an All Share isn’t happening. It’s all taken care of.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:40:46 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Would have been so much better as a Rogue Round.



There would have been the collusion for everyone to steal except one person.
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August 8th, 2018 at 1:42:48 PM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

I am listed on Team 1 as a follower and listed as Leader of Team 6.



Ooops. Thanks for the correction. Here is the corrected table:

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 gordonm888 OnceDear, Joeman, Mikey75
2 troopscott DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, SOOPOO, Torghatten
3 Ayecarumba PlayYourCardsRight, Mission146, gamerfreak
4 djatc GWAE, Dalex64, RS
5 Face prozema, miplet, beachbumbabs
6 Keeneone MidwestAP, JohnnyQ, PokerGrinder
7 MaxPen Romes, Jufo81, AxelWolf
8 onenickelmiracle Nathan, SM777, UKMark
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August 8th, 2018 at 2:27:57 PM permalink
Quote: Face


Feel free to play your games, though. Just do so quietly; the adults are speaking.

I'm not sure who that's directed at. (?)

I'm willing to make a side bet on the team captain I'm confident will steal.

I promise that I won't or haven't influenced them in any way shape or form whatsoever. I will not conspire with them in any way. You can try, however, no bribes. I have not heard from the person regarding this or anything as of late.

If you are in, just let me know the amount. And no, I won't accept an amount that will be significant enough to change the way someome might vote based on our side bet.

I will send my prediction to Mike and he can announce it at the end.

I have the right to change the bet if extra money is added to the pool or that person is offered money something or like that.
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August 8th, 2018 at 4:03:19 PM permalink
Here is an updated money table.

Player Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7 Round 8 Round 9 Round 10 Round 11 Round 12 Total
SOOPOO 0.5 0 0 1 0.4 0 1.79 0.67 1.43 0 25 2.5 33.28
PlayYourCardsRight 0 0.5 1 1.25 0.5 0 1.43 0.67 1.43 5 0 2 13.77
PokerGrinder 0.4 0 0 1 0 0.67 1.43 0.83 1.79 5 0 2.5 13.61
gamerfreak 0 0.4 0 1 0.5 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 5 0 2 13.09
prozema 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.43 5 0 2 12.72
JohnnyQ 0 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.43 0 1.43 5 0 0 9.66
Nathan 0.5 0.4 1.25 0 0.4 0.67 1.79 0.67 1.79 0 0 2 9.45
onenickelmiracle 0.5 0 1.25 1 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2.5 9.17
GWAE 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.83 1.79 0 0 2 8.91
Joeman 0.4 0 1.25 1 0 0.67 1.43 0 1.79 0 0 2 8.53
Ayecarumba 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 8.39
Face 0.4 0.4 1 0 0.5 0 1.79 0.83 1.43 0 0 2 8.35
MidwestAP 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2.5 8.22
miplet 0.5 0.5 0 0 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.83 1.79 0 0 2 8.11
DJTeddyBear 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.79 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 8.08
gordonm888 0 0.4 1 0 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 7.99
RS 0.5 0.4 0 0 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.79 0 0 2 7.85
Dalex64 0.4 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 7.72
Romes 0 0 0 1.25 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.79 0 0 2 7.53
OnceDear 0.5 0.4 0 1.25 0 0 1.43 0 1.43 0 0 2 7.01
UKMark 0.4 0.4 1.25 0 0.4 0.67 1.79 0.67 1.43 0 0 0 7
AxelWolf 0 0 0 0 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 6.59
SM777 0 0.4 0 0 0 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 2 6.59
troopscott 0.5 0.5 1 0 0 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 0 6.19
Jmarch79 0.5 0.4 0 0 0 0 1.43 0 1.43 0 0 2 5.76
beachbumbabs 0.4 0.4 0 0 0.4 0.67 1.79 0.67 1.43 0 0 0 5.75
Mission146 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.43 0.83 1.43 0 0 2 5.69
Mikey75 0 0.4 0 1 0.4 0 1.43 0.67 1.79 0 0 0 5.68
Torghatten 0 0.4 0 0 0 0 1.79 0 1.43 0 0 2 5.61
djatc 0 0 0 1 0.4 0.67 1.43 0.67 1.43 0 0 0 5.59
Keeneone 0 0.4 0 1.25 0 0 1.43 0.83 1.43 0 0 0 5.34
Jufo81 0 0 1 0 0.5 0 1.43 0.83 1.43 0 0 0 5.19
MaxPen 0 0.5 0 0 0.4 0 1.79 0.83 1.43 0 0 0 4.95
billryan 0.4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.4
Boz 0.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.4
HeyMrDJ 0.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.4
sodawater 0.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.4
Total 10 10 10 20 10 10 50 20 50 25 25 50 290


Congratulations to SOOPOO for the far and away number one position, thanks to the windfall from game 11. If we don't count that, I'd like to congratulation the following players for making it over $12:

PlayYourCardsRight: $13.77
PokerGrinder: $13.61
gamerfreak: $13.09
prozema: $12.73
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August 8th, 2018 at 4:15:44 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I'm surprised that no one has bit on this interesting post yet. I don't have a problem with any of these names as Team Captain. :) They are all noble and respectable Posters. :)


First 12 seconds of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGl1oCpoyI

She called me a noble poster. :)

Quote: Romes

Doh, mission, you're too kind to point out that we keep winning and that we have the vast majority of the prize lot from the entire game. Thanks bud.


You also have a majority of the players. Grats. What's your guys average prize per person?

Quote: troopscott

most of us retarded monkeys coming back like a crack whore to see the latest posts


I agree wholeheartedly.



Quote: Romes

Okay, I nominate the blame to Mission, for not even being in our pool and doing nothing but demeaning us and our decisions despite the fact that the large pool, with no central leadership, has managed to capture the VAST majority of the wizards money for our pool.

Thanks for continuing to try to stir our pot, that you're not in.

Okay, this has been all in good fun (at least from my end) but I'm pretty much done with the personality you've brought to this thread. The ONLY WAY we could have made last round better was to have 1 more captain steal. So yeah, I'll take the 2nd best way possible given all sharing was NEVER going to be an option. If you feel differently, then go write it in your diary. Your OPINIONS don't matter to us, and you're not even in the big pool so why do you care? Why do you consistently try to degrade and berate us when you're not even in the big pool?

Ayeeeee you made it to where I've been feeling, but a little late. Should I now make at least a dozen posts berating you and how INCOMPETENT your play is, like you have???

Round 13 - don't care, do what you all wish.. I'll be waiting to actually have fun with the pooled money in either an AP play or whatever the masses vote.


Bruh, you're the one that started it. There was no ill-will from #SmallPool towards #***Pool, then you came along trying to cut your face to spite your nose while catching bees with bear honey but ended up with vinegar. Darn rascals trying to ruin our fun! :(
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August 8th, 2018 at 4:38:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm not sure who that's directed at. (?)



All the riffraff on the sidelines that are going to attempt their influences. T'was a joke, or an attempt =p

Quote: AxelWolf

You can try,...



Seems pretty simple. Whatever alliances and/or petty beefs anyone has, or whatever AP aspirations one may hold, the object of the game is co-op. Doing so relieves Wiz of the most, and that is the point. Regardless of personal leanings, everyone here is a competitor. That means share.

Poking and jabbing is fun. It's nice when you feel someone steps over the line, to poke them right in the eye next chance you get. Feels good when that happens. And we did that. Now it's the final round. No one wants to be "that guy" who doesn't know when to quit, and ends up ruining the party. That means share.

AP is the point for some. To take what is given and create more from it is the be-all, end-all. But this isn't that. Taking money from a player-banker is fair play, the banker agrees to the risk. Here we have intentions to go against the dealer, and you're saying some folks here, after having a good idea of the outcome, would change at the last minute to attack the player for some personal reason? That's not AP. That's Sidney Crosby level douchebaggery. That means share.

See? Simple.
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August 8th, 2018 at 5:40:40 PM permalink
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:37:52 PM permalink
As in previous rounds, My team’s vote will reflect the input of all our members.

I’d like to share since I am on a four person team for the first time, but there are also 8 teams this round. I can’t win for losing.

I appreciate Mike kicking in for a bonus round. Thanks Wizard!
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August 9th, 2018 at 5:08:03 AM permalink
A Rogue Round would have cut out the posters who voted blindly voted Steal or Share based on what their Team at the time wanted them to vote. I'm not naming any names, but there is a certain Poster who did just that. ;)
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August 9th, 2018 at 5:11:50 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I’ll tell you guys this: If I were in the big pool, I can’t say for sure I wouldn’t take my funds out at the end if I had more than the mean big pool average.

I wouldn’t want to, but at a certain point, Romes, OnceDear, TroopScott and SOOPOO, blame needs to be assigned for the woeful inadequacy that is your performance last round.



Mission, I'll say this bluntly.... I LOVE YOU in Blue! The amount of time you have spent discussing a few pennies is truly remarkable. I frankly can't wait for the game to be over, as I am not interested in whether we big poolers end up with $12.68 per person versus $12.87. I am interested in what Axel proposes for us to do with the money to try and multiply it.

This game has been like playing no limit hold em with fake money. Many decisions are made that would be different if real money was involved.
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August 9th, 2018 at 5:14:55 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO



... like playing no limit hold em with fake money. Many decisions are made that would be different if real money was involved.



I remember that. Everyone goes all in for 30 minutes... Those were the days.
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August 9th, 2018 at 7:31:40 AM permalink
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Mission, I'll say this bluntly.... I LOVE YOU in Blue! The amount of time you have spent discussing a few pennies is truly remarkable.



Thanks!

I guess, for me, I just can’t get past that winning is winning and losing is losing.
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