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I had hoped that Wizard would see me fighting with OnceDear, Gordon and TroopScott and make all four of us captains. I already sent all of them a PM behind the scenes that I would share if we were all made captains, despite me running my mouth in the thread.
It looks like I’m a captain and none of the three of them are, in fact, OnceDear is on my team.
So, my plan to trick Wizard has unfortunately failed. Hopefully Nathan will come through and Share. She’s the only one who concerns me a little.
All Share = No Brainer.
Quote: Mission146. Hopefully Nathan will come through and Share. She’s the only one who concerns me a little.
All Share = No Brainer.
1. Agree all share would be sweet for $100.
2. Agree Nathan is a wild card. Who will PM her?
3. What about DJTB? IIRC, he declared himself a loner... A rebel...
4. Glad I'm not captian this round. I'll go make popcorn...
Quote: prozema1. Agree all share would be sweet for $100.
2. Agree Nathan is a wild card. Who will PM her?
3. What about DJTB? IIRC, he declared himself a loner... A rebel...
4. Glad I'm not captian this round. I'll go make popcorn...
1. Yes
2. I can if you want, but she’s in your pool.
3. Is MidwestAP in the big pool?
Here’s what I would offer if I were in the big pool: DJTeddyBear (and MidwestAP?) stands to gain $10 by stealing, but $3.33 if everybody shares. The big pool needs to step up and make sharing the better option. The big pool should offer to cut DJTeddyBear $7 if there is an all share.
Quote: Mission146Unfortunately, my plan didn’t work:
I had hoped that Wizard would see me fighting with OnceDear, Gordon and TroopScott and make all four of us captains. I send all of them a PM behind the scenes that I would share if we were all made captains, despite me running my mouth in the thread.
It looks like I’m a captain and none of the three of them are, in fact, OnceDear is on my team.
So, my plan to trick Wizard has unfortunately failed. Hopefully Nathan will come through and Share. She’s the only one who concerns me a little.
All Share = No Brainer.
I am trying to figure out how I was a captain only once and others three times
Quote: troopscottI am trying to figure out how I was a captain only once and others three times
I wish you had been this round!
The only time I can speak for is the second time I was captain and that’s because AxelWolf got to handpick captains that round. In terms of Wizard’s picks, I was only made a captain twice.
Maybe it’s sometimes random, I have no idea.
Quote: SM777DJ, Let's steal. We have no reason to share. We benefit more by stealing from the ploppies.
That’s not cool, we want to get more money out of Wizard. Just get the big pool to offer you guys some positive equity to make it mathematically the same thing.
Quote: troopscottI am trying to figure out how I was a captain only once and others three times
Wizard only picked me as captain once as well. I was one of Axels captains.
I expect 2 captains at a minimum will steal, out of that list.
Quote: troopscottI am trying to figure out how I was a captain only once and others three times
That's a valid complaint. I apologize that I didn't notice that when creating the teams.
Quote: beachbumbabsWizard only picked me as captain once as well. I was one of Axels captains.
I expect 2 captains at a minimum will steal, out of that list.
There are three non big poolers, I’ve already shared, so just incentivize the other two to share.
Quote: troopscottI am trying to figure out how I was a captain only once and others three times
Sounds like some kid complaining they didn't get a participation trophy. 😃
Quote: Mission1461. Yes
2. I can if you want, but she’s in your pool.
3. Is MidwestAP in the big pool?
Here’s what I would offer if I were in the big pool: DJTeddyBear (and MidwestAP?) stands to gain $10 by stealing, but $3.33 if everybody shares. The big pool needs to step up and make sharing the better option. The big pool should offer to cut DJTeddyBear $7 if there is an all share.
I agree with you mission, but I think it would be inappropriate for me to intrude on this group of captians. I did enough in this game, so popcorn time for me...I'm going to rest up for the payout conversation.
Round 12 Captians for the big pool... I'm down with whatever you guys want to do including paying off non-pooling caps to vote share. We kinda over powered them last round so we probably owe them one.
I sent Nathan a PM letting her know she is captian this round and that BBB is calling the shots.
Quote: WizardThat's a valid complaint. I apologize that I didn't notice that when creating the teams.
not a complaint just an observation. I thought Mission and I would have our showdown this round
Quote: troopscottnot a complaint just an observation. I thought Mission and I would have our showdown this round
That’s what I was hoping for. Check your PM’s!
Quote: prozemaOk, one last piece of mischief from me....
I sent Nathan a PM letting her know she is captian this round and that BBB is calling the shots.
Mischief is right as I didn't receive that PM. :/
Quote: Mission146Unfortunately, my plan didn’t work:
I had hoped that Wizard would see me fighting with OnceDear, Gordon and TroopScott and make all four of us captains. I already sent all of them a PM behind the scenes that I would share if we were all made captains, despite me running my mouth in the thread.
It looks like I’m a captain and none of the three of them are, in fact, OnceDear is on my team.
So, my plan to trick Wizard has unfortunately failed. Hopefully Nathan will come through and Share. She’s the only one who concerns me a little.
All Share = No Brainer.
Yes, I was shamming hostility towards Mission as part of his plan.
What's even more bizarre is that after 12 rounds and 78 designated captains, I have only been captain once. By my count, 33 players, and 78 captain designations - many players have been captains 3 times. I think Miplet and troopscott join me in the "only been captain once" club. Apparently, us math geeks got passed over by one of our own.
Okay, I'm going to step in and take the lead on this one, here are the rosters:
Main Pool: 23
Side Pool: 4
Independents: 6
Here is where all side poolers and independents can be found:
SIDE POOLER:
MaxPen: Teammate, Team 6
RS: Teammate, Team 4
Mission146: Leader, Team 4
GWAE: Teammate, Team 5
Independents:
DJTeddyBear: Leader, Team 1
MidwestAP: Leader, Team 7
OneNickelMiracle: Teammate, Team 7
Ayecarumba: Teammate, Team 4
DJATC: Teammate, Team 3
SM777: Teammate, Team 1
THE PLAN
1.) When it comes to attempting a steal, the best that the Big Pool can do is to steal with only their team comprised of all big pool members, but there are 23 big poolers, so the value is:
50/23 = 2.17/Player
2.) However, if there is an all share, then the equity is $3.33 per player, which would have $76.59 going to the big pool.
3.) The problem is, if the ALL BIG POOL team does a steal, someone else is probably going to steal (likely Team 1 or Team 7) which is going to dilute the big pool's value down from that $2.17.
4.) Similarly, if one Independent steals, multiple independents are likely going to steal and dilute the value.
---They might not like this, but what I am going to suggest is that the big pool breaks off $20 after the all share to be divided amongst most of the side poolers and Independents equally.
---RS and AyeCarumba are both on my team, so they have no control over what I do, so we don't need them.
---If the big pool agrees to break off $20 to be split among these seven players after the all share:
MaxPen
GWAE
DJTeddyBear
MidwestAP
OneNickelMiracle
DJATC
SM777
Those players would each get $3.33 + (20/7) = $6.19
That's better than any of those players would do individually if there is more than one steal.
The big pool would still chop up $56.59, which is $2.46 each, which is better than the big pool would do if the team of all big poolers were to steal.
This is the cooperation game, and this is the deal where everyone wins, unless someone can think of something better.
The only better option would be if you could bribe DJTeddyBear and MidwestAP (Leaders of Teams 1 & 7) with more than that, but I imagine each of them want to see their independent teammate get some.
Quote: gordonm888Yes, I was shamming hostility towards Mission as part of his plan.
What's even more bizarre is that after 12 rounds and 78 designated captains, I have only been captain once. By my count, 33 players, and 78 captain designations - many players have been captains 3 times. I think Miplet and troopscott join me in the "only been captain once" club. Apparently, us math geeks got passed over by one of our own.
I don't know that is true if it is in anyway a random process for any of the rounds. I have been a captain three times, but I replaced someone who I don't know if he was ever a captain or not. Also, one of my times as captain is that I was handpicked by Axelwolf.
I'm actually going to share the PM I sent you, you did a great acting job, by the way!
Quote:Gordon,
Save this PM.
I just said in the thread that I’m going to steal if we’re both captains, I’m not.
I just sent TroopScott a PM saying the same thing.
My goal is that Wizard will roll out a huge share incentive in a future round AND that he will put me as a captain as well as all of the people he thinks I have a problem with.
OD and I were legitimately at each other last round, everything since the All Share came out has been for show.
You have permission to reveal the contents of this PM to other captains ONLY and ONLY if you and I are captains in the same round.
What I’m hoping is Wizard will do a big share incentive, and the captains will look something like this:
OnceDear
Gordonm888
TroopScott
Mission146
RS or MaxPen
GWAE (or some other independent)
??? (Maybe OneNickelMiracle because Wizard will think I want to steal and he’ll think it’s funny for close friends to go at it?)
Anyway, I’m trying to get Wizard to do a big share incentive thinking at least one steal is in the bag, but really, the all share will be what’s in the bag!
Respectfully,
Brandon
I also sent similar PM's to OnceDear and TroopScott on that day or one day after. This was about two weeks ago. 7/24/18 4:21p.m., Pacific
Quote: NathanMischief is right as I didn't receive that PM. :/
I sent it to Tasha. Doh!
Quote: gordonm888What's even more bizarre is that after 12 rounds and 78 designated captains, I have only been captain once. By my count, 33 players, and 78 captain designations - many players have been captains 3 times. I think Miplet and troopscott join me in the "only been captain once" club. Apparently, us math geeks got passed over by one of our own.
Again, I apologize. I may do a special round 13 that will be for "only been captain once" people and some random twice-captain people. I am big on fairness but obviously lacking in organization.
Quote: gordonm888Mission, you may share my response, if you wish.
Quote:Okay. So, I keep my lips zipped (except under the circumstances you outline below.) And I make no particular effort to act friendly to you.
We need to get troopscott back in the game!
Axel picks captains next round. I know he will not pick me.
I am glad to learn of this. I have never had any kind of a problem with you, and am relieved that you are not actually nuts.
(Irrelevant sentences omitted)
Above and beyond the call of duty, but a pretty cool thing to even consider !Quote: WizardAgain, I apologize. I may do a special round 13 that will be for "only been captain once" people and some random twice-captain people. I am big on fairness but obviously lacking in organization.
Quote: Mission146TAKING THE LEAD
Okay, I'm going to step in and take the lead on this one,..
---RS and AyeCarumba are both on my team, so they have no control over what I do, so we don't need them...
I liked Green Gargantua Mission much more than Brown Mission.
Hehe... RS and I are plotting a coup...
Maxwell Smart: ...at this very minute, my friend, this chalet is being completely surrounded by 500 alpine crack troops.
KAOS #1: I find that hard to believe.
Maxwell Smart: Would you believe 150 Tirolian ski-troops?
KAOS #2: No we wouldn't.
Maxwell Smart: How about 2 Saint Bernards in heat?
Quote: Mission146All Share = No Brainer.
Dang it... Pay attention SooPooQuote: SOOPOOIN NO WAY will I vote to give some big pool money to non big pool players, regardless of the potential EV. I WILL NOT reward non cooperative behavior. If the non big pool players commit to sharing, which they by definition they cannot do as lying is allowed, then all would do better at Wizard's expense. I trust Mission to share, although technically he can be lying. If I was a captain I would vote steal. This way the $25 is split among as many people as possible, both big pokers and non big poolers.
Quote: WizardThe prize pool will be $50, except I'll double it to $100 if everybody shares.
$100 shared between us or $50 stolen and shared between us.
All Share is a no-brainer
OK Nathan, You are back on board and paying attention. Now, as your teams captain, you need to message wizard with your 'share' vote. Then we can all sleep a little more soundly.Quote: NathanWizard says he will double the pot to $100 if everyone shares. All share is definitely the answer. Wizard said he is NOT able to lie, (although players are able to lie) being the Game maker, so we should trust his word as being as good as gold. What I just said is to disengage any thoughts of Wizard himself lying about doubling the pot to $100 if everyone shares.
Mike does not lie, cheat or deceive. If he says there's $100, there's $100
Quote: prozemaOk, one last piece of mischief from me....
I sent Nathan a PM letting her know she is captian this round and that BBB is calling the shots.
Ummm. Whaat?
Quote: SOOPOOIN NO WAY will I vote to give some big pool money to non big pool players, regardless of the potential EV. I WILL NOT reward non cooperative behavior. If the non big pool players commit to sharing, which they by definition they cannot do as lying is allowed, then all would do better at Wizard's expense. I trust Mission to share, although technically he can be lying. If I was a captain I would vote steal. This way the $25 is split among as many people as possible, both big pokers and non big poolers.
Perfect. DJ, let's steal $50. I'll PM you.
Quote: beachbumbabsUmmm. Whaat?
Dont worry about it... Looks like OD is on it.
Quote: SOOPOOIN NO WAY will I vote to give some big pool money to non big pool players, regardless of the potential EV. I WILL NOT reward non cooperative behavior. If the non big pool players commit to sharing, which they by definition they cannot do as lying is allowed, then all would do better at Wizard's expense. I trust Mission to share, although technically he can be lying. If I was a captain I would vote steal. This way the $25 is split among as many people as possible, both big pokers and non big poolers.
I think this is also a reasonable position I can support. Principle is sometimes greater than dollars.
Soooo glad I'm not captian.
Quote: WizardIt is time to begin Round 12! This is the final round of the game.
Here are the teams:
Team Leader Followers Vote 1 DJTeddyBear Joeman, gordonm888, SM777, AxelWolf 2 PlayYourCardsRight Romes, gamerfreak, prozema, Dalex64 3 UKMark JohnnyQ, Keeneone, beachbumbabs, djatc 4 Mission146 Ayecarumba, RS, OnceDear, Jmarch79 5 Nathan Face, miplet, GWAE, Torghatten 6 Jufo81 Mikey75, troopscott, MaxPen 7 MidwestAP onenickelmiracle, SOOPOO, PokerGrinder
The prize pool will be $50, except I'll double it to $100 if everybody shares.
Deadline for votes shall be 9 AM Vegas time on Wednesday.
Enjoy!
I've dropped the teams into the following table to see what team captains are sharing and those who are not:
Member | Sharing? | Round 12 Team Leader | Team |
---|---|---|---|
DJTeddyBear | Yes | Yes | 1 |
Joeman | Yes | 1 | |
Gordonm888 | Yes | 1 | |
Axelwolf | Yes | 1 | |
SM777 | ??? | 1 | |
Playyourcardsright | Yes | Yes | 2 |
Romes | Yes | 2 | |
Prozema | Yes | 2 | |
Dalex64 | Yes | 2 | |
GamerFreak | Yes | 2 | |
UK MARK | Yes | Yes | 3 |
Keeneone | Yes | 3 | |
JohnnyQ | Yes | 3 | |
DJATC | Yes | 3 | |
BeachBumBabs | Yes | 3 | |
Mission146 | No*** | Yes | 4 |
OnceDear * | Yes | 4 | |
Jmarch79 | Yes | 4 | |
Ayecarumba | NO NO NO NO NO | 4 | |
RS | No | 4 | |
Nathan | Yes | Yes | 5 |
Face | Yes*** | 5 | |
Miplet | Yes | 5 | |
Torghatten | Yes | 5 | |
GWAE | ??? | 5 | |
Jufo81 | Yes | Yes | 6 |
Mikey75 | Yes | 6 | |
Troopscott | ??? | 6 | |
MaxPen | ??? | 6 | |
MidwestAP | ??? | Yes | 7 |
PokerGrinder * | Yes | 7 | |
OneNickelMiracle | Yes | 7 | |
Soopoo | Yes | 7 | |
So lets ignore those that are not the Team Leaders and we have:
Member | Sharing? | Round 12 Team Leader | Team |
---|---|---|---|
DJTeddyBear | Yes | Yes | 1 |
Playyourcardsright | Yes | Yes | 2 |
UK MARK | Yes | Yes | 3 |
Mission146 | No*** | Yes | 4 |
Nathan | Yes | Yes | 5 |
Jufo81 | Yes | Yes | 6 |
MidwestAP | ??? | Yes | 7 |
As you can see there are 2 teams that may elect to steal on the premise that all other "big pool" sharers will want the extra $$ for the pot which would net the steal votes $25 each team.
I would like to share but the risk may be too great so I would propose that the team captains for teams 1,2,3,5 all vote "STEAL" and team 6 vote "SHARE" so even if team 4 & 7 vote steal or share the big pool sharers still get the higher % of the pot on offer.
I realise this may be seen as -ev but if we all talk about sharing then (if i was not sharing and captain then I'd look to steal) any non sharing leader could vote steal to bag the $50
Quote:
As you can see there are 2 teams that may elect to steal on the premise that all other "big pool" sharers will want the extra $$ for the pot which would net the steal votes $25 each team.
I would like to share but the risk may be too great so I would propose that the team captains for teams 1,2,3,5 all vote "STEAL" and team 6 vote "SHARE" so even if team 4 & 7 vote steal or share the big pool sharers still get the higher % of the pot on offer.
I realise this may be seen as -ev but if we all talk about sharing then (if i was not sharing and captain then I'd look to steal) any non sharing leader could vote steal to bag the $50
Nice analysis, Mark, but PLEASE VOTE SHARE. We can do this. To throw $50 back in Wizard's face would be dumb. Even the small poolers and non-poolers know this game's objective.
Quote: UKMarkQuote: WizardIt is time to begin Round 12! This is the final round of the game.
Here are the teams:
Team Leader Followers Vote 1 DJTeddyBear Joeman, gordonm888, SM777, AxelWolf 2 PlayYourCardsRight Romes, gamerfreak, prozema, Dalex64 3 UKMark JohnnyQ, Keeneone, beachbumbabs, djatc 4 Mission146 Ayecarumba, RS, OnceDear, Jmarch79 5 Nathan Face, miplet, GWAE, Torghatten 6 Jufo81 Mikey75, troopscott, MaxPen 7 MidwestAP onenickelmiracle, SOOPOO, PokerGrinder
The prize pool will be $50, except I'll double it to $100 if everybody shares.
Deadline for votes shall be 9 AM Vegas time on Wednesday.
Enjoy!
I've dropped the teams into the following table to see what team captains are sharing and those who are not:
Member Sharing? Round 12 Team Leader Team DJTeddyBear Yes Yes 1Joeman Yes 1Gordonm888 Yes 1Axelwolf Yes 1SM777 ??? 1Playyourcardsright Yes Yes 2Romes Yes 2Prozema Yes 2Dalex64 Yes 2GamerFreak Yes 2UK MARK Yes Yes 3Keeneone Yes 3JohnnyQ Yes 3DJATC Yes 3BeachBumBabs Yes 3Mission146 No*** Yes 4OnceDear * Yes 4Jmarch79 Yes 4Ayecarumba NO NO NO NO NO 4RS No 4Nathan Yes Yes 5Face Yes*** 5Miplet Yes 5Torghatten Yes 5GWAE ??? 5Jufo81 Yes Yes 6Mikey75 Yes 6Troopscott ??? 6MaxPen ??? 6MidwestAP ??? Yes 7PokerGrinder * Yes 7OneNickelMiracle Yes 7Soopoo Yes 7
So lets ignore those that are not the Team Leaders and we have:
Member Sharing? Round 12 Team Leader Team DJTeddyBear Yes Yes 1Playyourcardsright Yes Yes 2UK MARK Yes Yes 3Mission146 No*** Yes 4Nathan Yes Yes 5Jufo81 Yes Yes 6MidwestAP ??? Yes 7
As you can see there are 2 teams that may elect to steal on the premise that all other "big pool" sharers will want the extra $$ for the pot which would net the steal votes $25 each team.
I would like to share but the risk may be too great so I would propose that the team captains for teams 1,2,3,5 all vote "STEAL" and team 6 vote "SHARE" so even if team 4 & 7 vote steal or share the big pool sharers still get the higher % of the pot on offer.
I realise this may be seen as -ev but if we all talk about sharing then (if i was not sharing and captain then I'd look to steal) any non sharing leader could vote steal to bag the $50
I'm going to disagree with you, and with SOOPOO. My goals in this game are primary - take as much money from Mike as possible. Secondary : maximize big pool money.
My thought was to double shares of the non-big Poolers to get the $100, ie 100/43.. However, I like the $20 pledge as well. Simpler, cheaper.
Either way, cost of doing business.
Quote: UKMarkQuote: WizardIt is time to begin Round 12! This is the final round of the game.
Here are the teams:
Team Leader Followers Vote 1 DJTeddyBear Joeman, gordonm888, SM777, AxelWolf 2 PlayYourCardsRight Romes, gamerfreak, prozema, Dalex64 3 UKMark JohnnyQ, Keeneone, beachbumbabs, djatc 4 Mission146 Ayecarumba, RS, OnceDear, Jmarch79 5 Nathan Face, miplet, GWAE, Torghatten 6 Jufo81 Mikey75, troopscott, MaxPen 7 MidwestAP onenickelmiracle, SOOPOO, PokerGrinder
The prize pool will be $50, except I'll double it to $100 if everybody shares.
Deadline for votes shall be 9 AM Vegas time on Wednesday.
Enjoy!
I've dropped the teams into the following table to see what team captains are sharing and those who are not:
Member Sharing? Round 12 Team Leader Team DJTeddyBear Yes Yes 1Joeman Yes 1Gordonm888 Yes 1Axelwolf Yes 1SM777 ??? 1Playyourcardsright Yes Yes 2Romes Yes 2Prozema Yes 2Dalex64 Yes 2GamerFreak Yes 2UK MARK Yes Yes 3Keeneone Yes 3JohnnyQ Yes 3DJATC Yes 3BeachBumBabs Yes 3Mission146 No*** Yes 4OnceDear * Yes 4Jmarch79 Yes 4Ayecarumba NO NO NO NO NO 4RS No 4Nathan Yes Yes 5Face Yes*** 5Miplet Yes 5Torghatten Yes 5GWAE ??? 5Jufo81 Yes Yes 6Mikey75 Yes 6Troopscott ??? 6MaxPen ??? 6MidwestAP ??? Yes 7PokerGrinder * Yes 7OneNickelMiracle Yes 7Soopoo Yes 7
So lets ignore those that are not the Team Leaders and we have:
Member Sharing? Round 12 Team Leader Team DJTeddyBear Yes Yes 1Playyourcardsright Yes Yes 2UK MARK Yes Yes 3Mission146 No*** Yes 4Nathan Yes Yes 5Jufo81 Yes Yes 6MidwestAP ??? Yes 7
As you can see there are 2 teams that may elect to steal on the premise that all other "big pool" sharers will want the extra $$ for the pot which would net the steal votes $25 each team.
I would like to share but the risk may be too great so I would propose that the team captains for teams 1,2,3,5 all vote "STEAL" and team 6 vote "SHARE" so even if team 4 & 7 vote steal or share the big pool sharers still get the higher % of the pot on offer.
I realise this may be seen as -ev but if we all talk about sharing then (if i was not sharing and captain then I'd look to steal) any non sharing leader could vote steal to bag the $50
Quote: troopscottI agree here. There is no negative value for a team to steal unless multiple do. I agree there are two who I think will steal. If those one or both steal it would add a big chunk to the "pool of northern aggression" or independent pool. This is the last chance for independent and PONA to steal and pad their pool. There is no downside for one of them to lie and say they are sharing and steal anyway.
Mission will share.
Share.
Member | Sharing? | Round 12 Team Leader | Team |
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DJTeddyBear | No | Yes | 1 |
Playyourcardsright | Yes | Yes | 2 |
UK MARK | Yes | Yes | 3 |
Mission146 | No*** | Yes | 4 |
Nathan | Yes | Yes | 5 |
Jufo81 | Yes | Yes | 6 |
MidwestAP | ??? | Yes | 7 |
I know it won't be easy to get all to share, although it did happen once before and would benefit us all but..........
I think you - or someone - need to read the PM again.Quote: UKMarkHad a PM that DJTeddyBear is in fact a non sharer ...
Quote: DJTeddyBearI think you - or someone - need to read the PM again.
Hey Mr DJ put the record straight.....there's a song that goes something like that......oh it was "put a record on" by some little known female artist.....lol
Could you please correct me and tell me if you are a sharer or non sharer as this is what I was pointed to....
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/casual-corner/30628-cooperation-game-ii/165/#post664898
Quote: UKMark
As you can see there are 2 teams that may elect to steal on the premise that all other "big pool" sharers will want the extra $$ for the pot which would net the steal votes $25 each team.
I would like to share but the risk may be too great so I would propose that the team captains for teams 1,2,3,5 all vote "STEAL" and team 6 vote "SHARE" so even if team 4 & 7 vote steal or share the big pool sharers still get the higher % of the pot on offer.
I realise this may be seen as -ev but if we all talk about sharing then (if i was not sharing and captain then I'd look to steal) any non sharing leader could vote steal to bag the $50
Why the hell wouldn't I share? I've done nothing but share this entire game.
In fact, it's possible that someone with an interest in stealing PM'ed me behind the scenes and I flatly rejected the notion of stealing even to him.
The goal of this game is to get as much of Wizard's money as possible. All I am suggesting is that you guys make sharing as good as stealing for the non big poolers who are not on my team. It's really not a tough thing to do. SOOPOO accuses them of not cooperating, but the side poolers and no poolers all cooperated when we got the All Share done a few rounds ago.
It's not about getting the best percentage of the pot, it's about getting the most money. The big pool can offer to make it equitable for the non big poolers AND STILL end up with more than $50 to split among themselves.
Quote: troopscottI agree here. There is no negative value for a team to steal unless multiple do. I agree there are two who I think will steal. If those one or both steal it would add a big chunk to the "pool of northern aggression" or independent pool. This is the last chance for independent and PONA to steal and pad their pool. There is no downside for one of them to lie and say they are sharing and steal anyway.
Have you ever considered saying something that is not 100% wrong? It's fun to do just to switch it up a bit. Oh, and read your PM's.
Quote: UKMarkHey Mr DJ put the record straight.....there's a song that goes something like that......oh it was "put a record on" by some little known female artist.....lol
Could you please correct me and tell me if you are a sharer or non sharer as this is what I was pointed to....
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/casual-corner/30628-cooperation-game-ii/165/#post664898
I think you're conflating, "Sharing," with, "In the pool." DJTeddyBear is not in the pool, but I believe he is open to Sharing in this round.