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onenickelmiracle
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January 20th, 2018 at 4:36:52 PM permalink
I've been told by doctors, neither being cold nor hot can make you sick. They claim there are studies to prove it, but I don't believe it. Common sense says if your body has to expend extra energy regulating your body temperature, there might be consequences. I think either can weaken your immune system. You obviously need something to attack your body first, but this presence might not otherwise be as noticeable or severe.
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January 20th, 2018 at 5:18:28 PM permalink
Opinion: it might make you "sick" mentally or emotionally if you get too dang much of it. It can certainly injure you physically. I don't know of any physical illnesses that it can give to you, but I believe it can lower your resistance to illnesses that your body would otherwise ward off.

I interpret that as a "true" -- the cold weather does not "make" you sick.
rsactuary
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January 20th, 2018 at 5:34:59 PM permalink
If you mean can you catch a cold from the cold? No, you can't. Despite what my Mom continues to tell me.

Does hypothermia count as sick? If so, then I would say, yes, it can.
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January 20th, 2018 at 5:39:15 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I've been told by doctors, neither being cold nor hot can make you sick.

They keep it fairly cold in the cardiac wards while the patients recover. Now being flu season, we should consider the physiological aspects of that. When we are inside out of the sun with other persons. Low vitamin D. As well, the flu likes the winter because it's drier, and we have less active mucous in our noses, etc. And so on.
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January 20th, 2018 at 5:57:31 PM permalink
Pathogens:
You encounter them: doorknobs, shopping carts, brats, etc.
In Winter you are more likely to be indoors and rebreathing them due to less ventilation,

Quacks say 'commensal' what they mean is you already got pathogens, if they are given opportunities they will take advantage of them. So any dietary insult or any temperature insult can put a strain on the "balance".

A poor diet allows pathogens to mutate and gain strength. Winter diets can be poor as regards sunlight and fresh vegetables so keep up the leafy greens and eat mushrooms for vitamin D. Keep up with parsley for its vanadium content to keep blood sugar levels in range, high sugar levels interfere with the immune system.

You burn more calories keeping warm than cooling off but that means its a greater strain on the immune system too,
onenickelmiracle
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January 20th, 2018 at 10:20:12 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

If you mean can you catch a cold from the cold? No, you can't. Despite what my Mom continues to tell me.

Does hypothermia count as sick? If so, then I would say, yes, it can.

I think it's true cold exposure is underestimated. Someone might only think about playing a slot machine for 3 hours at 0° underdressed, but not count the 2 hours a day they were exposed. Second problem, a cold is a vague term. A cold could be a cold, or it could be a sinus infection, any other infection, or a combination. Obviously a cold cannot infect you, but it can let the door open. The studies tell a partial truth and people use them as absolute truths.
Almost seems like the rumors casinos rip off slot customers because "it's cheaper paying the fines, read it in the newspaper", but nobody has ever seen the newspapers when it comes down to proving it. Has anyone actually ever seen these studies in depth, let alone at all, or was it just some dateline bs news people believed or the Mandela effect.

Added: It's possible the times we notice the cold in an extreme way, we're already sick and don't know it yet. If you have a small fever, a few hours underdressed in 0° may really feel even colder than reality. Then you remember suffering, and be on your assumed death bed 12-48 hours later. 103-4° fevers at night, no fun, death seems like bliss.
Last edited by: onenickelmiracle on Jan 20, 2018
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smoothgrh
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January 21st, 2018 at 10:15:53 AM permalink
I've been thinking of this topic for years.

My mom always said "wear a jacket or you'll catch a cold."

I asked my kid's pediatrician about this, and she said that she always has arguments with HER mom about this issue—that you can't catch a cold from being out in cold weather. (And SHE'S a doctor!)

What IS possible—even probable, I think—is that being out in cold weather weakens your immune system, so when you DO contract germs or viruses from touching doorknobs, touchscreens, et al, your body can't defend itself as well.

However, moms telling you to wear a jacket does have a beneficial effect. Long ago, I went to a lighting ceremony for a string of lights that was installed around a lake. It was nice and warm during the daytime, so I didn't bring a jacket. But when the sun had set, temperature had dropped precipitously, and by the time the ceremony started, I was nearly shivering! I should have listened to my mom!
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January 21st, 2018 at 11:22:29 AM permalink
I think you answered your own question:
Quote: onenickelmiracle

... I think either can weaken your immune system. You obviously need something to attack your body first ....

Cold, on its own, and excluding hypothermia, can’t make you sick.

But it CAN make it easier for you to catch something.
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HornHighYo11
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January 21st, 2018 at 12:23:11 PM permalink
The "cold" has to come from somewhere, ie. someone who has the pathogen. As far as humans are concerned, cold weather drives people closer together and greatly increases the chance of being infected (or the term I prefer: inoculated). It doesn't matter if you are tired or immune system is warn down, healthy people can lose the fight against any kind of germ too. You can't get "a cold" unless you are exposed to a living pathogen. <insert argument here about Viruses not being 'alive' so they can hang around for a very long time>. Don't fear the cold, fear other people and crowded, popular spaces. A warm tavern on a cold winter's night (BAD), a packed bus or train in the middle of the summer (BAD), and that touch screen on your favorite Ultimate X game that never gets disinfected... (Super BAD). Having said that, fighting the occasional "cold" is better than never getting sick. Washing your hands and not touching your face/eyes/nose/mouth or sharing food/drinks will go a long way to staying reasonably healthy.

From personal experience being someone whom works outside in all weather, I don't get "colds" from it. I can always trace it to being near someone else with a sore throat or bad cough that I can't get away from or share equipment with. More recently, kids coming back from daycare. That's a human cesspool that's almost impossible to avoid contamination from.

...that was a lot longer than I wanted my 2 cents to be... Im must be lonely (trying to avoid colds i guess)
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January 21st, 2018 at 1:49:50 PM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

I asked my kid's pediatrician about this, and she said that she always has arguments with HER mom about this issue—that you can't catch a cold from being out in cold weather. (And SHE'S a doctor!)



As you referred to... people who say this are being far too literal.

Ask that same pediatrician if she would say there's no problem with her own kids, her older parents, her patients, etc. walking around without hat, gloves, warm shoes, heavy coat, etc. in the cold weather... then draw your own conclusions.

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