rainman
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March 30th, 2012 at 12:48:06 AM permalink
First one is what imformation is contained on a electronic gaming ticket; slots vid poker etc... just balance or more? Second is the guy posting in green under wizard is that the real wizard or is he behind the curtain? sincerely your friend and mine rainman
PopCan
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March 30th, 2012 at 1:53:25 AM permalink
1. The ticket is printed with a barcoded validation number, the printed validation number, date, time, casino name, and ticket number. The validation number is determined by scanning the barcode at the redemption machine or cage cashier. The ticketing system verifies that the ticket is valid and hasn't been cashed then returns the amount to be paid. The barcode itself only holds the validation number. The balance is printed on the ticket in plain text but the actual balance is determined by the ticketing system's database.

2. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic so...the green Wizard is Michael Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, and founder of this site.
rainman
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March 30th, 2012 at 2:38:02 AM permalink
Sorry i didnt ask my question very well. Answere me this if you will? if a man walks into a casino puts 100$ into a machine wins some loses some but cashes out from that machine with a balance walks over to another machine inserts that ticket wins some loses some then cashes out from that machine heads to the cage all the info the casino has on that ticket is validation and amount to be paid they dont know which machines or if the ticket went from macine to machine ? sincerely the rain man Oh i was being funny but i really didnt know it was the real wizard until you pulled the curtain back thanks.
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:06:51 AM permalink
The cashier you see will only care if the ticket is valid or not. Whether they have access to more info I don't know.

The back room, has a computer system that keeps perfect track of each ticket. At least they should!!! This info is for their accounting records. If they looked it up they can tell the time, date, machine, and any other info they tack.
buzzpaff
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:10:49 AM permalink
" 2. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic so...the green Wizard is Michael Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, and founder of this site. "

What are the odds he will belief our resident math expert is named Dorothy Gayle and lives in Kansas ??
DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:53:32 AM permalink
It really depends upon how much info the casino WANTED to store.

For example, there may (should) be a data log for each machine showing all transactions. The cash in records should indicate the size of the dollar bill, and the amount and ID number of tickets inserted. Cash out records should show the amount and ID number of tickets printed. All these records should be date/time coded. The log may also hold information such as the number of coind bet, and win/loss for each spin.

Assuming that there is such a log, then there should be a method of entering a ticket number, and seeing which machine printed it and when, and then looking up the machine's history for that period, including the original ticket in from the other machine that you're talking about. Then it should be a simple matter of doing the same thing now that you know the original ticket number.

But the reality is, unless the casino suspects something fishy, I doubt that they would bother checking any of this. Certainly, it wouldn't be the cage girl that does it.

But now that I've typed all these assumptions, I gotta ask...

What are you trying to figure out?
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rainman
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March 30th, 2012 at 12:58:02 PM permalink
Thanks bear you cleared me up. What im trying to figure out? Just adding to my overall gaming knowledge.
CrystalMath
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March 30th, 2012 at 1:11:56 PM permalink
There is a game number or asset number printed on the ticket, but not in the bar code. The system logs are required to store this information. The game also keeps a log of tickets printed, including date, time, amount, and the last 4 digits of the validation number. This info is used primarily when there's a dispute or if the ticket is unreadable and the player calls an attendant.
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marksolberg
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March 30th, 2012 at 1:38:20 PM permalink
I don't know if this was the intended question or not but it's the one I'm going to answer.

"What information is contained in the barcode on a slot ticket?"

The barcode contains a unique number. This number identifies the ticket to the slot system database. It's the record in the database that contains all the relevant information.

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March 30th, 2012 at 2:28:25 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

It really depends upon how much info the casino WANTED to store.

For example, there may (should) be a data log for each machine showing all transactions. The cash in records should indicate the size of the dollar bill, and the amount and ID number of tickets inserted. Cash out records should show the amount and ID number of tickets printed. All these records should be date/time coded. The log may also hold information such as the number of coind bet, and win/loss for each spin.

Assuming that there is such a log, then there should be a method of entering a ticket number, and seeing which machine printed it and when, and then looking up the machine's history for that period, including the original ticket in from the other machine that you're talking about. Then it should be a simple matter of doing the same thing now that you know the original ticket number.

But the reality is, unless the casino suspects something fishy, I doubt that they would bother checking any of this. Certainly, it wouldn't be the cage girl that does it.

But now that I've typed all these assumptions, I gotta ask...

What are you trying to figure out?



And don't forget cross referencing the ticket to a players card if one was inserted in the machine....

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