ZeroprisonerZ
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July 9th, 2011 at 3:15:20 PM permalink
What is the max house edge a carnival game in Nevada can legally have? Recently my casino added a new one with a 6.49% house edge and now I'm curious to know this answer.

-Thanks :)
FleaStiff
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July 9th, 2011 at 3:55:09 PM permalink
Do you mean the maximum house edge in a licensed casino that operates what is commonly referred to as a carnival game or the maximum that some sort of charity event operating a Monte Carlo Night or Church Fair type event can have? I don't even know if the regs make such a differentiation but would assume that they do.
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July 9th, 2011 at 4:37:00 PM permalink
" Given the regulations as to maximum house edges (Nevada <=25%), " This on a prior thread posted by MathExtemist.
ZeroprisonerZ
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July 10th, 2011 at 1:27:51 AM permalink
Quote: ZeroprisonerZ

What is the max house edge a carnival game in Nevada can legally have? Recently my casino added a new one with a 6.49% house edge and now I'm curious to know this answer.

-Thanks :)



I will be a little more specific..... Table games like 3 card poker, Boston 5 card, crazy 4 poker, Mississippi stud. To get a patent in the State of Nevada what's the max house edge a game like this can have?

So < 25% is the answer?

thanks
FleaStiff
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July 10th, 2011 at 2:01:57 AM permalink
Oh, I see what you wanted now.
Okay. Just remember, no matter what patent you might receive, the game has to be commercially viable as well as being technically legal. So I would say that any game that approached such a whopping house edge would be patentable but hardly something players or casinos would be clamoring for.
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July 10th, 2011 at 7:18:54 AM permalink
Lots of side bets have 20%+ HAs. The pairs plus in 3 card is 7.3 percent when it's 1-3-6 which is what all casinos feature these days on the strip. Ripoff.
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July 10th, 2011 at 9:05:58 AM permalink
I can't answer the original question, but...

House edge has nothing to do with patentability.

However, it has everything to do with getting it approved by the gaming commission, getting it into a casino, and getting gamblers to play it and like it.
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July 10th, 2011 at 11:51:49 AM permalink
You don't get a patent in the state of Nevada -- you get Nevada Gaming Control Board approval for the game. And yes, 25% or less is the answer for the house edge. The only exceptions are games that are grandfathered in, like Keno (some Keno bets are >25% edge).
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July 10th, 2011 at 11:57:15 AM permalink
Quote: ZeroprisonerZ

What is the max house edge a carnival game in Nevada can legally have? Recently my casino added a new one with a 6.49% house edge and now I'm curious to know this answer.

-Thanks :)



The max house advantage at slots and other machines is 25%. I've heard that from several sources.

There doesn't seem to be one at the other games. Many of the bets at keno are over 25%, as is the jackpot bet at Caribbean Stud at its reset level (and some level beyond).
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