Quote: rxwinePlace your bets. What's real, what's fake.
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The video is real. The audio is real.
The ad is fake.
There is a CBS logo at the bottom of the screen so that tells me the ad was hobbled together from other sources. An expose on CBS apparently.
The name on the Facebook page is misspelled. And Mike mentions the app working in all fifty states.
That all adds up to fake ad.
Since the two (real video/audio, fake ad) don't reconcile, my official theory is Wizard recorded that as some type of joke or read a script for someone and the footage got into the wrong hands.
"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, has to be the truth" - Sherlock Holmes
Quote: rxwinePlace your bets. What's real, what's fake.
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* Real video * But Mike didn't want people here to know about the ad / or Mike hasn't responded cuz of a sudden illness; he'll say some when well enough.
I kinda assume that it DOES work in all states. Just for free play.Quote: darkozAnd Mike mentions the app working in all fifty states.
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Only the cash option is limited.
Quote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.
Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
I'm not pretending to have anything; I'm simply explaining that it's not our role to make public posts giving information about what the Wizard is doing in his personal life - but our silence doesn't mean that people should assume that Wizard is ducking questions in this thread.
Quote: darkozmy official theory is Wizard recorded that as some type of joke or read a script for someone and the footage got into the wrong hands.
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I do have to give you props for creative thinking, but that's rather desperate no? in trying to make your square peg fit into the round hole?
Quote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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Who is trying to back myself out of a corner.
You are acting like this whole thread is some personal issue. Wrong or right it doesn't affect my life In any significant way. I don't understand why posters on here seem to think so.
Quote: prozemaGive me a break man... You're just being dramatic. Hookers and blow is a joke... Lighten up a little.
And by the way he's posting what he's doing right now on Facebook. It's not a big secret.
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(snip)
I wasn't told to disseminate such information.
Wizard is just one of roughly 3 billion people I'm not following on Facebook.
Whatever he's up to is Wizard's business, and none of my business.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI kinda assume that it DOES work in all states. Just for free play.Quote: darkozAnd Mike mentions the app working in all fifty states.
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Only the cash option is limited.
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I also considered that but wouldn't all apps work in all fifty states for freeplay?
I don't know. I don't bother with freeplay (little inside joke there)
Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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Who is trying to back myself out of a corner.
You are acting like this whole thread is some personal issue. Wrong or right it doesn't affect my life In any significant way. I don't understand why posters on here seem to think so.
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MDawg just trying to score a point. Hes competitive. And wouldnt shock me if he has inside info.
Quote: DRichQuote: prozemaI wouldn't bet on that.
Would you feel better if I said strippers and weed?
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If I am not mistaken I believe he has mentioned smoking weed.
in my case, I have neither done a stripper nor smoked weed.
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I would like to have done the former but unfortunately her grandma was with her! :o
and no, not doing a 3some with a gilf
Quote: unJonQuote: darkozQuote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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Who is trying to back myself out of a corner.
You are acting like this whole thread is some personal issue. Wrong or right it doesn't affect my life In any significant way. I don't understand why posters on here seem to think so.
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MDawg just trying to score a point. Hes competitive. And wouldnt shock me if he has inside info.
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I am competitive too but damn save it for something that's really important lol.
Thanks
Quote: LetmehelpNot wizard . How does no body see this. The supposed Caesar's Facebook page as 61 followers
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He's been banned for a few days now and the suspension list isnt updated.
Just curious which former member he was.
<tapping fingers...>
:p
Quote: TigerWuThis thread has gotten very stupid.
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This whole thread was stupid from the beginning.
Quit standing on Mike's d***, everyone.
Maybe close this thread until Mike gets back.
Quote: ChumpChangeAnybody ever allowed on social media while on jury duty? One YouTube star unalived herself when she got jury duty over a decade ago.
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Quote: MDawgC.Change obviously you're capable of coherent on topic posts.
So then all the bizarre off topic posts where you get suspended for highjacking, are deliberate? If so, you can't really blame the mods for stacking infractions against you for at least those types of posts.
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I'm locking the thread for a while, until we can get some solid first hand insight, rather than speculation.
PM me if you fiercely disagree.
Quote: WizardHello. I'm back from 16 days on the Camino de Santiago and 23 days in Europe. I have tried to view the video, but the links to it don't work. However, whatever it is, it's not me.
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It was 100% you, but obviously manipulated, as expected, by some AI or other means.
ZCore13
Quote: unJonQuote: darkozQuote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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Who is trying to back myself out of a corner.
You are acting like this whole thread is some personal issue. Wrong or right it doesn't affect my life In any significant way. I don't understand why posters on here seem to think so.
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MDawg just trying to score a point. Hes competitive. And wouldnt shock me if he has inside info.
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DarkOz was wrong again. Shocker.
Quote: WizardHello. I'm back from 16 days on the Camino de Santiago and 23 days in Europe. I have tried to view the video, but the links to it don't work. However, whatever it is, it's not me.
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Glad you escaped from the horrible conditions of you kidnapping. :)
I think someone on here saved the video?
Quote: MDawgI suppose someone should download and preserve the video because it might get pulled before Wizard even gets to see it. That was my intent when I clicked Download but it downloaded nothing for me just sent me to that Cyborg site.
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Quote: MDawgAnd MDawg was right again.
Quote: unJonQuote: darkozQuote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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Who is trying to back myself out of a corner.
You are acting like this whole thread is some personal issue. Wrong or right it doesn't affect my life In any significant way. I don't understand why posters on here seem to think so.
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MDawg just trying to score a point. Hes competitive. And wouldnt shock me if he has inside info.
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DarkOz was wrong again. Shocker.
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How can someone be so wrong and call himself a lawyer?
In what court would the evidence not even be seen by the person in question and his denial be declared admissible?
That is obviously the real Wizard.
And I stated his audio might be doctored.
But it's definitely not AI which was my original point.
Quote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
Quote: MDawgQuote: darkozThe audio is real.
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Wrong.
I don't believe that is Wizard's voice or that he ever said those words. I also don't believe KLAS ever said those words in any actual broadcast.Quote: MDawgI have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.
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And the video is not quite real. It is three segments of one longer video connected into one.
Even when you try to back yourself out of a corner you just dig yourself in deeper. Just admit you made a mistake and revise your opinion instead of trying to so hard to fit your square peg opinion into the correct round hole.
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The below is completely wrong by D.Oz as well:
Quote: darkozUltimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.
I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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In court to jury:
"You all saw the video. You heard the audio. You know the person in question is that person.
"But he says it's not him. And yes, he didn't even look at the video but if he says it's not him then you must ignore the evidence in front of you and declare him not guilty. "
We all know what the outcome of such a ridiculous argument by any lawyer would be in court.
GUILTY AS CHARGED
No person who claims to be a REAL lawyer would argue such.
That is my opinion and let's face it, it's correct.
To just a heads up, people are having fun posting again... Better relock the thread. Lol
Quote: prozemaCome on man... That's not what he's [MDawg's] saying.
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Heaven forbid that D.Oz would misquote someone.
I have provenmyselfas an Advantage Player multiple times.
MDawg has said he is a lawyerbut displays such poor advice not to mentionhe doesn't even have time to be a lawyer appearing in court when he is in Vegas months at a time.
Call it insult. I call it truth.
MDawg doesn't like the truth but just ASK YOURSELVES:
Would ANY of you ever want MDawg representing you in court?
Suspension EARNED and will alwaysbe earned when speaking truth.
7 days please. I am busy meeting with entertainment lawyers and storyboard artists on my film. Can use the vacation!
Quote: darkozClearly MDawg is not a lawyer.
I have provenmyselfas an Advantage Player multiple times.
MDawg has said he is a lawyerbut displays such poor advice not to mentionhe doesn't even have time to be a lawyer appearing in court when he is in Vegas months at a time.
Call it insult. I call it truth.
MDawg doesn't like the truth but just ASK YOURSELVES:
Would ANY of you ever want MDawg representing you in court?
Suspension EARNED and will alwaysbe earned when speaking truth.
7 days please. I am busy meeting with entertainment lawyers and storyboard artists on my film. Can use the vacation!
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Quote: MDawgQuote: darkozClearly MDawg is not a lawyer.
I have provenmyselfas an Advantage Player multiple times.
MDawg has said he is a lawyerbut displays such poor advice not to mentionhe doesn't even have time to be a lawyer appearing in court when he is in Vegas months at a time.
Call it insult. I call it truth.
MDawg doesn't like the truth but just ASK YOURSELVES:
Would ANY of you ever want MDawg representing you in court?
Suspension EARNED and will alwaysbe earned when speaking truth.
7 days please. I am busy meeting with entertainment lawyers and storyboard artists on my film. Can use the vacation!
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No need to quote.
I am not cowardly like you and trying to erase it. You should know me by now.
The truth is the truth about you.
There, double downed
Quote: WizardHello. I'm back from 16 days on the Camino de Santiago and 23 days in Europe. I have tried to view the video, but the links to it don't work. However, whatever it is, it's not me.
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Wait, but youve been gone long enough for an advanced cloning device to send back an imposter! Whats the secret word?
Quote: prozema@mods...
To just a heads up, people are having fun posting again... Better relock the thread. Lol
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People should have fun, right?
I locked the thread because Wizard was unavailable for comment.
He's available now, if he cares to chime in further.
Quote: DieterQuote: prozema@mods...
To just a heads up, people are having fun posting again... Better relock the thread. Lol
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People should have fun, right?
I locked the thread because Wizard was unavailable for comment.
He's available now, if he cares to chime in further.
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I was kidding but I'm glad I got a response.
Talk about a real coward.
Hard to believe anyone without such courage could be an attorney or an AP.
I just tried the link in the original post. The page was taken down.Quote: WizardHello. I'm back from 16 days on the Camino de Santiago and 23 days in Europe. I have tried to view the video, but the links to it don't work. However, whatever it is, it's not me.
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Welcome back Mike! Hope you enjoyed yourself.
See you in 16 days. 😁
Quote: DJTeddyBearI just tried the link in the original post. The page was taken down.Quote: WizardHello. I'm back from 16 days on the Camino de Santiago and 23 days in Europe. I have tried to view the video, but the links to it don't work. However, whatever it is, it's not me.
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Welcome back Mike! Hope you enjoyed yourself.
See you in 16 days. 😁
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Yes, how convenient.
Quote: darkozQuote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
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Sayin again. It aint a shame endorsing in advertising. It is money just about everybody wants. Doesnt even matter if advertising for multiple competitors. Real shame is when you deny an act that some might consider questionable. Psychologists call it toxic shame. It is much more toxic when you try to cover the tracks (like deleting a page or a link].
I also say again. There aint AI involved in that video. The image and the voice are real. The strongest evidence is lip-synching. AI will never be able to fake lip-synching. AI avoids to show lips because synch can be exposed as fake. And thats why the FB page was removed. The Smoking gun.
Quote: toolypQuote: darkozQuote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
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Sayin again. It aint a shame endorsing in advertising. It is money just about everybody wants. Doesnt even matter if advertising for multiple competitors. Real shame is when you deny an act that some might consider questionable. Psychologists call it toxic shame. It is much more toxic when you try to cover the tracks (like deleting a page or a link].
I also say again. There aint AI involved in that video. The image and the voice are real. The strongest evidence is lip-synching. AI will never be able to fake lip-synching. AI avoids to show lips because synch can be exposed as fake. And thats why the FB page was removed. The Smoking gun.
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Read the caption of images [from the delete video]:
EVERY 5TH PLAYER WINS AT CAESARS PLACE ONLINE CASINO
Is it good or bad? 1 in 5 means 20%. Is it +20% for the casino? the math guy wiz realizes he endorses a casino with a 20% edge. 4 of 5 players are wiped out, no?
The boiling point maybe that triggered toxic shame.
Quote: toolypQuote: darkozQuote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
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Sayin again. It aint a shame endorsing in advertising. It is money just about everybody wants. Doesnt even matter if advertising for multiple competitors. Real shame is when you deny an act that some might consider questionable. Psychologists call it toxic shame. It is much more toxic when you try to cover the tracks (like deleting a page or a link].
I also say again. There aint AI involved in that video. The image and the voice are real. The strongest evidence is lip-synching. AI will never be able to fake lip-synching. AI avoids to show lips because synch can be exposed as fake. And thats why the FB page was removed. The Smoking gun.
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Thank you.
The only disagreement with your post is about AI NEVER being able to do lipsync.
There is a Beta test trial going on and I see AI lipsync being available to the public perhaps in six months.
But right now it's not available.
The real giveaway in my opinion is the different angle taken inside what is most likely Michael's house. NO WAY AI could replicate that. Also the current limitations are ten seconds of generated AI video.
It's definitely not AI and anyone who ACTUALLY works with AI will know that.
Quote: toolypQuote: toolypQuote: darkozQuote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
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Sayin again. It aint a shame endorsing in advertising. It is money just about everybody wants. Doesnt even matter if advertising for multiple competitors. Real shame is when you deny an act that some might consider questionable. Psychologists call it toxic shame. It is much more toxic when you try to cover the tracks (like deleting a page or a link].
I also say again. There aint AI involved in that video. The image and the voice are real. The strongest evidence is lip-synching. AI will never be able to fake lip-synching. AI avoids to show lips because synch can be exposed as fake. And thats why the FB page was removed. The Smoking gun.
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Read the caption of images [from the delete video]:
EVERY 5TH PLAYER WINS AT CAESARS PLACE ONLINE CASINO
Is it good or bad? 1 in 5 means 20%. Is it +20% for the casino? the math guy wiz realizes he endorses a casino with a 20% edge. 4 of 5 players are wiped out, no?
The boiling point maybe that triggered toxic shame.
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I've been on a flight out of Vegas before... Based on the vibe, I'm pretty sure one in five didn't win.
Quote: prozema
I've been on a flight out of Vegas before... Based on the vibe, I'm pretty sure one in five didn't win.
One in five sounds reasonable to me.
Five to you, baby, one in five. No one here gets out alive?
Quote: toolypQuote: darkozQuote: ChumpChangeI still doubt Wizard saw the video. It was on 8-CBS News and everything!
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Wizard:
You are saying this is not a genuine image of you? That is not a room you recognize?
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Sayin again. It aint a shame endorsing in advertising. It is money just about everybody wants. Doesnt even matter if advertising for multiple competitors. Real shame is when you deny an act that some might consider questionable. Psychologists call it toxic shame. It is much more toxic when you try to cover the tracks (like deleting a page or a link].
I also say again. There aint AI involved in that video. The image and the voice are real. The strongest evidence is lip-synching. AI will never be able to fake lip-synching. AI avoids to show lips because synch can be exposed as fake. And thats why the FB page was removed. The Smoking gun.
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I am confused and maybe my English is not good enough
are you saying that it is real and the Wizard did this ad to earn some $$$
I am still convinced it is a fake!