Bank of Singapore 419 Scam?
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Quote: Derrick Tan -- Bank of Singapore -- Hong Kong Branch
Hong Kong
Bank of Singapore Limited (Hong Kong Branch)
1 Harbour View Street
35th Floor, One International Finance Centre
Central, Hong Kong
Telephone: +8522843980
Mr. Michael W Shackleford
(address redacted)
Las Vegas NV 89134-6136
Dear Mr. Michael Shackleford,
My name is Derrick Tan, Head of Global Marketing at Bank of Singapore Hong Kong. I am currently in the United States on a five days official assignment I am getting in touch with you regarding the estate of a deceased client with a similar last name whose portfolio we had the pleasure of managing about a decade ago. I will share some limited information about the estate with you and will shed more light once I can establish some level of trust and understanding with you. I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come across as a result of this mail. I am contacting you independently and no one is informed of this communication.
Sometime around 2012 the subject matter, Lokni Shackleford came to our bank to engage in a business discussions with our private wealth management dept regarding a portfolio of about $11.2 M (Eleven million two hundred thousand dollars) he wished to have us invest on his behalf. Based on the advice of my colleagues at the time we spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins to the tune of $13.M (Thirteen million five hundred thousand dollars). In mid 2013 he informed us of his intentions to move his funds to an asset management company in Hong Kong named Hangseng Asset Management (HAM) and the transfer was initiated his behest. However HAM got in touch with us sometime in 2018 informing us the funds were received and never claimed. On further inquiries by our risk department we determined that Lokni had passed around August 2013, we also discovered he died intestate and with no known relatives. In Hong Kong the intestacy laws will determine how your assets are distributed if you have no known family members after the “seven year no claim rule” expires. What I propose is quite simple, I have exclusive access to Lokni’s file and I can place you in a beneficiary’s position and instruct HAM to make payments to you after all necessary verification and application is done, as long as no one gets greedy we can have a fair and equitable share by splitting the funds evenly, the other option would be letting it revert back to the state.
It's a lifetime opportunity for us and if we can be of one accord we can act swiftly and get this done in a reasonable amount of time. I can be reached on my private line 011 852 5808 2132 or personal email tanderrick70@gmail.com. I am looking forward to hearing back from you and having a more in-depth conversation about this.
King Regards
Derrick Tan
I also have a picture below. Click on it for the full size image.
I thought the 419 "Nigerian" scam was well known, but maybe changing countries and the story a bit will help. Or am I missing out a share of 11.2 million?
The question for the poll is what do you make of the letter?
Quote: WizardI recently received the following letter, which I am typing out hoping that anybody searching on the name, emails, or phone numbers is in it be lead here.
I also have a picture below. Click on it for the full size image.
I thought the 419 "Nigerian" scam was well known, but maybe changing countries and the story a bit will help. Or am I missing out a share of 11.2 million?
The question for the poll is what do you make of the letter?
cheap to print, easy to distribute, and they dont need many people to fall for it, just one to be successful
I would call the bank's listed number (not the one on the letter) and ask to be transfers to Derrick Tan. Its almost certainly a dead end, but its a safe way to follow up, don't call or email the contacts on the letter, call the bank directly.
Quote: GandlerBank of Singapore uses a Gmail?
In all fairness, the letter said he is trying to do this transaction directly and privately. I'd use a private number and Email too.
Quote:I would call the bank's listed number (not the one on the letter) and ask to be transfers to Derrick Tan. Its almost certainly a dead end, but its a safe way to follow up, don't call or email the contacts on the letter, call the bank directly.
I reported it through the real bank's web site. Turns out Derrick Tan is the big banana in Hong Kong.
Theyll use real background info to convince.
Btw, A salesman asked for my dads wallet and never gave it back. My dad is not mentally there. Wonder, what they could do with a ss# and drivers license?
Hurry, he's in the USA for only five days.
Back to this one, the real Bank of Singapore wrote me back and asked to see the letter and envelope.
Show us the envelope. Or at least the postage.
Bulk rate is junk mail.
Pre-sort rate are bills.
First class (stamp or meter) is (usually) legitimate mail.
I’m guessing, based on the nature of the item, that although they probably send out hundreds, they used first class to make it look legitimate.
In that case, it’s still a scam, but good for the postal service. 🤪
Also note that the USPO does sell bulk rate and pre-sort stamps. Doesn’t change their junk mail status, but could fool someone.
Quote: DJTeddyBearIt’s a scam. But...
Show us the envelope. Or at least the postage.
Here you go. Click on image for larger version.
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyFirst class stamp was misplaced and avoided cancellation! That's all I'm sayin'....
Yes -- I can reuse it!
Huh? Why?Quote: GandlerBank of Singapore uses a Gmail?
I would call the bank's listed number... call the bank directly.
You don't actually believe any of it for one second, do you?
Quote: OnceDearHuh? Why?
You don't actually believe any of it for one second, do you?
They probably have a fraud department that would like to see this. Maybe , some will pursue this.
Quote: OnceDearHuh? Why?
You don't actually believe any of it for one second, do you?
No.
But, even if it's .0001% to be possible (I don't know about his hereditary, but if he has relatives in Hong Kong maybe higher?....) A 5-15 minute phone call for a tiny chance at 13 million? Or you blow a scammer (and possibly contribute towards him getting caught).
Either way its a win for a minor inconvenience (a few communications with a bank)...
May I have the guys number so I can have some fun fu%** with him?
Quote: GandlerBut, even if it's .0001% to be possible (I don't know about his hereditary, but if he has relatives in Hong Kong maybe higher?....) A 5-15 minute phone call for a tiny chance at 13 million? Or you blow a scammer (and possibly contribute towards him getting caught).
Either way its a win for a minor inconvenience (a few communications with a bank)...
The phone number is in the letter. Feel free to call on my behalf.
Quote:
Dear Sir,
With reference to the letter that you have provided, we wish to inform you that the letter was not signed or issued by Mr. Derrick Tan of Bank of Singapore. Accordingly, we do not take any responsibility for the contents of the letter. You may wish to consider filing a police report with your local authorities. You may wish to retain the original letter in safe custody, and to make them available when they are requested for further investigation, if necessary.
Warm regards,
Bank of Singapore
Quote: WizardI heard back from the bank. Here is what they wrote.
So sorry for the loss of your inheritance.
And also for the loss of your uncle Lokni. You must be very Thor about it.
Quote: jjjoooggg
Just on a whim, I searched on "jjjoooggg masturbating video."
Um.
From the bottom of my heart, I advise you not to do that!
I think its like that movie, The Ring. Anyone who searches on "jjjoooggg masturbating video" and watches a video will be dead one week later.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: jjjoooggg
Just on a whim, I searched on "jjjoooggg masturbating video."
Um.
From the bottom of my heart, I advise you not to do that!
I think its like that movie, The Ring. Anyone who searches on "jjjoooggg masturbating video" and watches a video will be dead one week later.
You didn't read the threatening email properly. They have pictures of jooog mastrubating..... a totally different act than masturbating.... (wouldn't you think an online scammer would at least use spell check?)
Quote: Wizard<snip>Or am I missing out a share of 11.2 million?<snip>
Wiz,
You are DEFINITELY missing out on your share of 11.2 megabucks!
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The only problem is that your "share" is $0 ;-)
Dog Hand
There's a Youtube channel called Trilogy Media (not plugging or advertising them) that deals with these guys face to face in some intense showdowns. Once they happened on an old woman who they thought was the scammer, but was just another victim who got conned for $30,000. In their latest video, they confronted an actual Mule who was from India(surprise, surprise!) and said he was "not aware of a scam."
There are so many levels and patsies in these scams, it's unreal how deep the rabbit hole goes. Anyway, better luck on your next government inheritance Wiz!
So many people must have been scammed.
Quote: jjjooogggNever press a button or link in an email. Google the Bank website directly.
So many people must have been scammed.
Yes, but what if I miss the one that isn't a scam and I just lost out on $18 million? Click the links, press the buttons, answer the emails and see what happens. I know I will lose less than $18 million.
Reported it to Mr. Tan himself. He is apparently tired of hearing about his alter ego, as he did not respond.
One part of the problem with these scams is that they prey on greed; if even one mark suspends rationality on the hope that he might get $11M that doesn't belong to him, the scammer wins. Bigly.
Another is the fact that many communication companies will NOT do anything about this trash. As long as the phone customer pays their bills, the companies will drag their feet about cutting them off, even though they pay lip-service to ridding us of this scourge. There are easy ways to trace US phone numbers (Fonefinder [dot] net and others), but I don't have the tools for Singapore.
Quote: nucleonI got one rsonalized to my last name of course. Mine was postmarked Los Angeles.
Reported it to Mr. Tan himself. He is apparently tired of hearing about his alter ego, as he did not respond.
One part of the problem with these scams is that they prey on greed; if even one mark suspends rationality on the hope that he might get $11M that doesn't belong to him, the scammer wins. Bigly.
Another is the fact that many communication companies will NOT do anything about this trash. As long as the phone customer pays their bills, the companies will drag their feet about cutting them off, even though they pay lip-service to ridding us of this scourge. There are easy ways to trace US phone numbers (Fonefinder [dot] net and others), but I don't have the tools for Singapore.
There is an email to forward paypal scams to spoof@paypal.com
Quote: BedWetterBetterSounds pretty much like the elderly bank account scam. They often use American mules or victims to post mark the "letters" to look official and have a valid U.S. Address. They then contact said mule or victim in the states to forward the package overseas, where they await the prize inside.
There's a Youtube channel called Trilogy Media (not plugging or advertising them) that deals with these guys face to face in some intense showdowns. Once they happened on an old woman who they thought was the scammer, but was just another victim who got conned for $30,000. In their latest video, they confronted an actual Mule who was from India(surprise, surprise!) and said he was "not aware of a scam."
There are so many levels and patsies in these scams, it's unreal how deep the rabbit hole goes. Anyway, better luck on your next government inheritance Wiz!
Unfortunately, fraud will always exist, because many people perceive information quickly and without analysis. And if there is an opportunity to get money, it will work.
My dad has 3 red flags on lifelock. Im in process of talking to an agent. I believe it coincides with spotty assisted living residence. He stays at the most expensive in town. Having overbilling issues every month. The bill says no late payment til such date. We hand deliver checks. So we have receipt. Also medication billing issue.
People here constantly falling for scams of the dumb obvious flavors are sadly commonplace though.
They stop responding after that.
