Don't come number bet on come out
August 11th, 2017 at 4:28:53 PM
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Hi there!
If I have a don't come number established and the point hits so we are now coming out again... is the don't come number $ at risk if the don't number is rolled?
I'm using an app to practice before my trip to Reno and on come out if I click on/off it places "on" tags on all my bets so it seems it's automatically "off" like a place bet would be on come out. With this app on come out roll if my "don't" number is rolled I lose the $.. is that right? Do I have to take down my don't come number $ on come out to keep it out of harms way or can it be turned off?
I leave it "on" most of the time when coming out but if my don't is a six or eight I may think about turning off or if I have to, take it down all together..
Thank you for your time : )
- RenoCrapsGuy
If I have a don't come number established and the point hits so we are now coming out again... is the don't come number $ at risk if the don't number is rolled?
I'm using an app to practice before my trip to Reno and on come out if I click on/off it places "on" tags on all my bets so it seems it's automatically "off" like a place bet would be on come out. With this app on come out roll if my "don't" number is rolled I lose the $.. is that right? Do I have to take down my don't come number $ on come out to keep it out of harms way or can it be turned off?
I leave it "on" most of the time when coming out but if my don't is a six or eight I may think about turning off or if I have to, take it down all together..
Thank you for your time : )
- RenoCrapsGuy
August 11th, 2017 at 5:03:24 PM
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TAKE IT DOWN ALTOGETHER!!!???
Don't ever take down a DC bet that has traveled, do you really love the casinos that much? If you have a DC that has traveled to the six, and say you bet $10 on it, then that money is now out there at an advantage (relatively speaking).
(6/11 * 10) - (5/11 * 10)= 0.90909090909
See, given that it has already traveled, your $10 bet now has an expected profit of $0.91.
You've avoided the 7/11 on the Come Out (relative to the Come Bet) which means any DC is at an advantage from that point forward.
It doesn't matter, in terms of probability or expectation whether or not you leave it on for the new come out roll. It's just as likely to win or lose regardless of what the roll is. I don't know how individual places handle DC bets on the CO, but you can just ask them what the default is. If the default is, "Off," just tell them you want it, "On," if that is how you would like it. If the default is, "On," but you want it, "Off," then tell them that.
Don't ever take down a DC bet that has traveled, do you really love the casinos that much? If you have a DC that has traveled to the six, and say you bet $10 on it, then that money is now out there at an advantage (relatively speaking).
(6/11 * 10) - (5/11 * 10)= 0.90909090909
See, given that it has already traveled, your $10 bet now has an expected profit of $0.91.
You've avoided the 7/11 on the Come Out (relative to the Come Bet) which means any DC is at an advantage from that point forward.
It doesn't matter, in terms of probability or expectation whether or not you leave it on for the new come out roll. It's just as likely to win or lose regardless of what the roll is. I don't know how individual places handle DC bets on the CO, but you can just ask them what the default is. If the default is, "Off," just tell them you want it, "On," if that is how you would like it. If the default is, "On," but you want it, "Off," then tell them that.
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August 11th, 2017 at 5:05:34 PM
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You can turn the DC odds off or on but I'm not sure about the bet itself. You can take them down anytime you want.
But why would you? A come out roll is when everyone is rooting for a 7. Surely you'd want your DC bets active at that time. That's why place bets and come odds are off when the puck says off, but DCs and their odds are on regardless.
As far as your app goes, it sounds like it may have been designed by someone who doesn't fully understand craps.
But why would you? A come out roll is when everyone is rooting for a 7. Surely you'd want your DC bets active at that time. That's why place bets and come odds are off when the puck says off, but DCs and their odds are on regardless.
As far as your app goes, it sounds like it may have been designed by someone who doesn't fully understand craps.
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August 11th, 2017 at 5:29:34 PM
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Dc bets always work.you cannot turn them off
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August 11th, 2017 at 5:53:11 PM
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I know I shouldn't take it down and normally I wouldn't.. I was just perplexed about this app I'm using.. thank you for your response I really appreciate it
August 11th, 2017 at 6:02:28 PM
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Quote: RenoCrapsGuyI know I shouldn't take it down and normally I wouldn't.. I was just perplexed about this app I'm using..
It does seem odd that the app would put an "on" button on the Don't Come bet or odds. When a DC bet travels to a number, it is live until either the number is rolled or seven out.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:26:40 AM
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Quote: BlueEagleIt does seem odd that the app would put an "on" button on the Don't Come bet or odds. When a DC bet travels to a number, it is live until either the number is rolled or seven out.
Correct. The base bet of the DC can never be turned OFF.
Maybe the sim used by the OP sets the odds on the DC working (ie, ON). With a Come bet established on a number, the odds on a Come-Out roll would normally be OFF, but the player could turn them ON and have them working. Not sure why someone would want to turn odds off for a DC bet, since -- as noted by others -- the DC has the advantage after it travels to a point number.
August 12th, 2017 at 4:01:18 PM
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Best Wishes for Reno
Each game of Don't Come and Don't Pass is completely independent of all others, just as overlapping baseball games in Miami and Seattle are completely independent.
The start or end of a separate Don't Pass or Don't Come game need not have consequences for any other Don't game. The dice alone speak. The Don't Pass comeout has no special powers compared to any other roll.
Any existing Darkside point enjoys a mathematical advantage which should not be abandoned. The Casino will of course permit you to do so by calling "down" your established Darkside points. Turning them "off" is not available. Such an order will be interpreted as "down," which effectively is abandonment. Abandoned points may not be reinstated.
Lay bets stand in sharp contrast to Don't Come points. Lay bets may be turned "on" or "off" at will.
Each game of Don't Come and Don't Pass is completely independent of all others, just as overlapping baseball games in Miami and Seattle are completely independent.
The start or end of a separate Don't Pass or Don't Come game need not have consequences for any other Don't game. The dice alone speak. The Don't Pass comeout has no special powers compared to any other roll.
Any existing Darkside point enjoys a mathematical advantage which should not be abandoned. The Casino will of course permit you to do so by calling "down" your established Darkside points. Turning them "off" is not available. Such an order will be interpreted as "down," which effectively is abandonment. Abandoned points may not be reinstated.
Lay bets stand in sharp contrast to Don't Come points. Lay bets may be turned "on" or "off" at will.
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August 14th, 2017 at 6:27:46 AM
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Quote: BlueEagleIt does seem odd that the app would put an "on" button on the Don't Come bet or odds. When a DC bet travels to a number, it is live until either the number is rolled or seven out.
Clarification - it is live until either the number is rolled or any seven is rolled, whether it is a seven out or a come out roll.
