My question is simple and deals with Civil Asset Forfeiture. As I currently understand, law enforcement is allowed to confiscate funds if they believe it is linked to criminal activity, the issue is that this is hearsay and up to interpretation. My question to the AP's is how does one travel (via airplane) with large sums of cash, without the risk of confiscation? In the past, one could place their cash on their person and walk through the metal detectors, now with the advent of Full-Body Scanners at virtually all airports and the requirements to remove everything from your person, how is it feasible to carry and travel with large amounts of cash?
Personally, I am someone who would like to travel to Vegas in the near future with amounts between $2,000 - $5,000 in cash. I currently have never filed a CTR as my winnings have never warranted one. So how does one with no record of cash transactions prove to the authorities that the money was not obtained illegally? What are your protocols with respect to traveling with cash?
I would like to hear anecdotal evidence of people who have been in this situation rather than speculation on what should/could happen.
Any insight at all would be wildly appreciated. Thank you.
Leaving Vegas, I've had the TSA guy say "Wow, you must'a gotten lucky here!" Even though I live in LV. And heading towards LV the TSA guy said something like "Damn you're gonna go hard aren't you?" And that was that.
You can transfer money via the bank. Or wire money to a casino or set up a credit line. Or get a security box at a bank in Vegas and leave the cash there, assuming it's money you can leave in LV until you return.
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I would like to hear anecdotal evidence of people who have been in this situation rather than speculation on what should/could happen.
Any insight at all would be wildly appreciated. Thank you.
I haven't traveled with a large amount, but I would say don't take more than you can afford for the TSA to steal from you. More than one person has had cash confiscated because it "might be used for an illicit purpose."
As long as you don't give them a reason to hand check your bag, your chances of being randomly selected for additionally screening are next to none. I have flown 30-40 round trips over the past 3 years and have never been randomly selected domestically; my one selection was because I forgot a water bottle.
You are not breaking the law and don't have to explain a thing (plane ticket to Vegas is enough of an excuse to convince most TSA agents). TSA agents are not police, most don't give a crap, they just want to clock out. Don't have any drugs on you, don't be a dick, and everything should be fine.
I've wondered if something similar could happen when taking a flight & whatnot, and since I've actually been standing by the side of the road staring at cows with my thumb up my assets fairly recently while Barney Fife was meticulously going through my bags looking for moolah, this question is more than a little bit interesting to me. Here's some of what I just turned up in a quick Google of news accounts (with colored & bolded emphasis & comment added by me):
Washington Post (6/30/15): Drug cops took a college kid’s savings and now 13 police departments want a cut
Quote:In February 2014, Drug Enforcement Administration task force officers at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport seized $11,000 in cash from 24-year-old college student Charles Clarke. They didn't find any guns, drugs or contraband on him. But, according to an affidavit filled out by one of the agents, the task force officers reasoned that the cash was...
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...Two local agencies were involved in the seizure of Clarke's cash: the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport Police, and the Covington Police Department, which is the home office of the DEA task force officer who detained and spoke with Clarke....
Washington Post (6/30/15): Why the TSA posted a photo of a passenger’s cash-filled luggage on Twitter
Quote:...Asked about the incident via e-mail, Farbstein said that "the carry-on bag of the passenger alarmed because of the large unknown bulk in his carry-on bag. When TSA officers opened the bag to determine what had caused the alarm, the money was sitting inside. Quite unusual. TSA alerted the airport police, who were investigating."...
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..."The TSA officer may consider all circumstances in making the assessment, including the [subjective opinion of] behavior and credibility of the passenger. Thus, a failure to be forthcoming may inform a TSA officer’s decision to call law-enforcement authorities."
In this case, the cash was seized by a federal agency, most likely the Drug Enforcement Administration, according to Richmond airport spokesman Troy Bell. "I don't believe the person was issued a summons or a citation," he said. "The traveler was allowed to continue on his way."... [without his money]
WTKR @Virginia local TV (7.1.15): TSA seizes $75,000 in cash from Richmond passenger – and he may not get it back
Quote:The man who was carrying $75,000 in cash was stopped at a checkpoint because of his bulky bag, according to WTVR...
And I'm not so sure if it always takes lotsa bricks of 'big-baller-bux' to trigger a problem:
By the Institute for Justice (advocacy group - 1/21/16): DEA Offered Reward to a TSA Screener to Help Them Seize Cash from Luggage
Quote:During that period, half of all DEA cash seizures were under $10,000, according to a later analysis by the Institute for Justice.
These are just from what I get off skimming the first page of a quick web search of some relevant press articles, and I have no other information on these quoted incidents beyond what I see in the published reporting. Unfortunately, even with the 'benefit' of my own experience last year and some personal accounts (described to me privately) from some others since then, I also have nothing to offer that I could feel really confident about telling someone else they should to do to avoid this.