Casino Advantage Plays

I'm seeking advice on some of the best places to find casino promotions or other advantage plays that require a large bankroll and are in the USA. Please feel free to contact me privately if needed.

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I was hoping to avoid Flaming.

Quote: Lottoballs

I was hoping to avoid Flaming.

Just kidding. But your question was a tad too vague to answer properly. Perhaps if you said WHERE in the US, and what you consider to be a "large" bankroll. Also, what type of casino game you are interested in.

Bankroll well into 7 figures if that helps. Looking for flat betting BJ games with +EV rules. Casino player card promotions with nice cash back. Casino double jackpot promotions. I'm willing to travel, if that helps. Willing to give bird dogs for nice games. Not interested in lower limit progressive VP. Not looking to cheat or get counting seriously if that helps.

Not much to be found on here. People tend to do their own footwork for that kind of stuff, and keep it to themselves. There was something in Arizona a while back that was plus E.V., and the triple down promotion at Mohegan Sun, but that's about it.

Anything worthwhile at those kind of stakes will be kept very close to the vest by anyone who has that information. Unfortunately, there are casino lurkers on just about every casino gambling board, particularly one frequented by advantage players. Bitter experience has taught people not to post details of good plays--they've seen such plays vanish into thin air only hours after they were posted.

Probably your best bet is to go to Vegas, learn where the few good $1/$5 VP games are, and be on the lookout for promos. Check vpfree2.com for some details (there is also data on non-Vegas casinos, but Vegas is your best bet for sheer number of opportunities, plus some jurisdictions forbid +EV VP). BJ is a dead duck as far as making any money--the few remaining decent games get too much heat. And there are very very few BJ games that are inherently +EV, and those are only about +0.25% or so, and get watched like a farmer's youngest daughter.

Hey 10-4, and I totally understand. I'm new here, but not a total green horn when it comes to promotions getting killed early or even before they start. I saw the MS 3x's BJ promo and thought hey why not me? I've got the time and $. Anyway I always thought that the few times a year these promos came up the "Pros" cut their own necks by bumrushing these joints. I was just looking for a few places to find contacts that were interested in a little reciprocity in this area. I'm always open to a PM, as soon as I can figure out how to do it on the forum. Thanks again.

I would imagine the only way to really do this would be to subscribe to all the drek notices about casino promotions in general and simply wade through all that garbage week after week hoping to spot something that was unusual and therefore should be investigated more thoroughly. Even then, most of the specials will be garbage. It will only be a few that are really an advantage and if you find them you will have to move fast and keep silent about it, lest it change.

I don't know if it would even be worth doing all that wading through notices about free pairs of dice or 2x points on Tuesdays to find something significant. You might want to concentrate on geographically remote casinos such as New Mexico where the administrators are functioning in Manana Mode and a promotion would be poorly analyzed.

Frankly, I'm sure finding something would be fun for you but would it really be worth all the effort?

Think back to Sic Bo in Biloxi, MS. A misprinted layout but all them out of towners showing up to play Sic Bo suddenly made the casino wake up and they walked out and put a post it note over the misprinted layout. Most of the sharpies were out their airfare and hotel room expenses.

You might also consider that downtown bar that was a lawyer's hangout near the courthouse which suddenly was forced to jack up its VP payouts from 1,000 to 5,000 dollars. Some sharpie gamblers showed up and played the machines in teams but it seems most of the winners were just dumb jerks who wandered in, ordered a beer and a sandwich and put twenty bucks into the VP machine ... and just happened to hit it big before the drink even arrived.

Quote: Lottoballs

Bankroll well into 7 figures if that helps. Looking for flat betting BJ games with +EV rules. Casino player card promotions with nice cash back. Casino double jackpot promotions. I'm willing to travel, if that helps. Willing to give bird dogs for nice games. Not interested in lower limit progressive VP. Not looking to cheat or get counting seriously if that helps.

I'd think whatever +EV you found would be not worth your time relative to your bankroll. A $500 promo is worth a lot to a 3-figure player, but not to a 7-figure player. Your best bet if you have that kind of money and you really want the +EV (instead of the whale treatment) is either to play poker well or find a private game somewhere. Casinos can't afford to give whales +EV games, so I can't imagine you'd ever find a +EV $500 or $1000 blackjack game or +EV $25 or $100 VP game, etc. In just about every casino in the U.S., except the highest-end properties in Las Vegas (e.g. Wynn), putting up $1M in front money will get you whatever you want - private salon, custom games, as much food and drink as you can handle, etc. But it won't buy you the edge.