likeplayingcrapsandbj
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May 17th, 2010 at 2:49:03 PM permalink
Proper tipping. The dealers rotate every 20 minutes. What is proper tipping?
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pacomartin
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May 17th, 2010 at 2:53:05 PM permalink
All the tips go into a pool anyway. I would just tip when it comes your turn to throw the dice. I know there are some people who disagree, but I like to keep the hardways up for as long as I am throwing.
rudeboyoi
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May 17th, 2010 at 3:39:26 PM permalink
if you dont want to pay attention, make sure you play at tables with competent dealers. if you want to pay attention, tables where dealers often make mistakes will be more profitable. you just have to be constantly vigilant correcting payouts not in your favor and not saying anything about payouts in your favor.
appistappis
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May 17th, 2010 at 10:15:03 PM permalink
the quality of craps dealers has really gone down hill in the last ten years.....many mistakes are made both ways but no dealer who wants to keep his job would purposely short you.
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May 18th, 2010 at 6:14:37 AM permalink
I like to tip the dealer with good service, meaning that if the service is good from that particular dealer, I put a tip down while s/he's taking care of me. If the service is extremely good, I'll call out "Toke for <dealer name>" even though I know that the entire crew gets it.
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cappo
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July 20th, 2010 at 7:01:05 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I am a dealer in England. anyone wanting to ask anything about working in a casino, or anything at all, ask away, and ill be more than happy to help in any way I can.

I think the Wizards sites are fantastic, so this is my attempt to try and contribute to the further success of the site.



I readily admit that I haven't read the entire thread, so please forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.

I am visiting London next week. Is there a good place to play craps there? If so, are there any big differences (rules, odds, etiquette, etc) between a British and typical US craps table?
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July 20th, 2010 at 7:41:18 PM permalink
Quote: cappo

I readily admit that I haven't read the entire thread, so please forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.

I am visiting London next week. Is there a good place to play craps there? If so, are there any big differences (rules, odds, etiquette, etc) between a British and typical US craps table?



I can't speak about London, but I've seen craps in Australia and Macau, where the basics are exactly the same. In Australia they pay more on the sucker bets, like the hard ways and hop bets than they do in the U.S. However, you should avoid those bets anyway.
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July 20th, 2010 at 9:16:40 PM permalink
Craps is rare as hens teeth in London. I think there are now just two tables in the capital.

The gaming board controls the odds casinos are allowed to offer and the place and centre bets play better than US tables. But good luck finding one.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:47:41 PM permalink
New "ask the dealer" question, although since Croupier is not in the USA this might need more input. The question is on tokes and taxes. When you pay a person a wage in the USA you have to pay taxes over and above that wage. In simple terms, if someone pays me $100 that person also must pay $7.51 in FICA; plus a few % in oher taxes. The $100 might cost them $110.

Now, if a dealer gets $100 in tokes, who pays that? The casino could be nice and take the hit (cynical folks will say "yeah, right!); the government can ignore it-yeah, right! Or the poor dealer can pay it.

Anyone know how it works?
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July 23rd, 2010 at 4:11:16 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

New "ask the dealer" question, although since Croupier is not in the USA this might need more input. The question is on tokes and taxes. When you pay a person a wage in the USA you have to pay taxes over and above that wage. In simple terms, if someone pays me $100 that person also must pay $7.51 in FICA; plus a few % in oher taxes. The $100 might cost them $110.

Now, if a dealer gets $100 in tokes, who pays that? The casino could be nice and take the hit (cynical folks will say "yeah, right!); the government can ignore it-yeah, right! Or the poor dealer can pay it.

Anyone know how it works?



I worked doing payrolls for several years. This was in mexico, so maybe things are different elsewhere, but then government is government pretty much everywhere. So:

1) Most taxes and fees are witheld by employers, not paid by them. Therefore your salary is $110, of which your employer witholds $10 which he then submits to the government.

Since you're never paid $110 and then pay $10 of that to the government, you may treat your salary as being only $100, but that doesn't make a difference as far as accounting is concerned.

2) We had employees who were paid a base salary plus commissions. The latter varied widely from one month to the next, naturally. Their witheld taxes depended on their earnings for a given month. Since monthly taxes are calculated in an annualized basis (ie, what you made in May multiplied by 12, input that to the tax table, divide the result by 12), and since there were massive variations, the net yearly tax was lower than the witheld tax. therefore we ahd to file tax returns on their behalf to get the excedent refunded.

3) There are some fees, but no taxes, paid by employers in mexico. These concerned mostly a matching contribution for rettirement accounts. In the case of commissions, these didn't count in the calculus of such fees.

Hope that helps. if not, I hope you're confused ;)
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