Amused
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October 19th, 2016 at 4:46:33 PM permalink
I recently played a Craps machine at the Venetian. There were about 8 stations around a central glass cylinder which encased two large dice. When cued, the player hits the plunger which launches the dice in a seemingly random fashion. I have shot dice for years and do a pretty fair job shaving down the house advantage as best as possible. But the results I had at this machine left me scratching my head in disbelief. I was playing the pass with full odds on some rolls, and the don't with full odds on others. While others were playing at their stations the results were that of a live game. But once the others left and I was the lone player, I hit a losing streak that was hard to believe. Regardless of if I was on the Pass or Don't, I suffered 17 losses out the the next 18 rolls! My question is can these machines be programmed like slots are? Are the results as random as at the live tables?
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October 19th, 2016 at 4:51:08 PM permalink
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I recently played a Craps machine at the Venetian. There were about 8 stations around a central glass cylinder which encased two large dice. When cued, the player hits the plunger which launches the dice in a seemingly random fashion. I have shot dice for years and do a pretty fair job shaving down the house advantage as best as possible. But the results I had at this machine left me scratching my head in disbelief. I was playing the pass with full odds on some rolls, and the don't with full odds on others. While others were playing at their stations the results were that of a live game. But once the others left and I was the lone player, I hit a losing streak that was hard to believe. Regardless of if I was on the Pass or Don't, I suffered 17 losses out the the next 18 rolls! My question is can these machines be programmed like slots are? Are the results as random as at the live tables?






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AxelWolf
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October 19th, 2016 at 5:26:02 PM permalink
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I have shot dice for years and do a pretty fair job shaving down the house advantage as best as possible.

How? The HA is what it is. Best you can get the HA down to is 1.364%

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I hit a losing streak that was hard to believe. Regardless of if I was on the Pass or Don't, I suffered 17 losses out the the next 18 rolls!

That's why betting systems don't work(sh*t happens)

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My question is can these machines be programmed like slots are?

NOT HAPPENING

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Are the results as random as at the live tables?

If they weren't random smart players could exploit the game.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Amused
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October 19th, 2016 at 5:33:03 PM permalink
Slots aren't random...but smart players can't exploit them.
sabre
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October 19th, 2016 at 5:37:38 PM permalink
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Slots aren't random...but smart players can't exploit them.



Of course we can.
RS
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October 19th, 2016 at 5:51:11 PM permalink
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Slots aren't random...but smart players can't exploit them.



AxelWolf
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October 19th, 2016 at 5:51:12 PM permalink
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Slots aren't random...but smart players can't exploit them.



They're not?

They can't?

Can you show me a legal non random slot in Vegas please?

How would they rig the craps dice? with magnets or something? How would it know what numbers to make come up or avoid?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
FDEAD3709
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October 19th, 2016 at 8:58:15 PM permalink
Have you never crawled under the machine and seen that lock box that only SHFl employees have a key to ?
FDEAD3709
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October 19th, 2016 at 9:02:30 PM permalink
Just kidding AXEL is right once again. I mean these are casino machines ! Next you would be saying a State lottery like PA, with all it's security and integrity could be rigged. I mean how DUMB

http://wesa.fm/post/triple-six-fix-how-rigging-pa-lottery-inadvertently-contributed-its-success#stream/0
RogerKint
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October 19th, 2016 at 9:42:40 PM permalink
Im no expert but, if it's rigged, play the don't? Oh, wait, then you'll get a bunch of 7s on the come out. Did you hear China has a space station and we have everlasting rovers on Mars? Believing stuff is fun.

One of the longest rolls I've ever had was on that same machine. Too bad I broke the 7th commandment of gambling or I'd be rich.
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