Duke
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June 3rd, 2013 at 12:34:54 PM permalink
I like to know Wizard and others' opinion on a new game I have invented. Please visit www.alapoker.net
Canyonero
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June 3rd, 2013 at 12:41:00 PM permalink
Welcome to the forums!

You lost me at "login or sign up". If you want opinions, get rid of that. If you want Email addresses - well - you ain't gettin' mine...
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June 3rd, 2013 at 1:09:17 PM permalink
http://alapoker.net/how-to-play/

If this is an accurate description of the game, then it's been done before. I'm not sure how you could patent it, unless you're also the person responsible for its current placement in existing online casinos...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
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June 3rd, 2013 at 1:13:30 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

http://alapoker.net/how-to-play/

If this is an accurate description of the game, then it's been done before. I'm not sure how you could patent it, unless you're also the person responsible for its current placement in existing online casinos...


I have seen this kind of hold'em games in many online casinos, years ago.
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Duke
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June 3rd, 2013 at 2:17:53 PM permalink
try it now. No need for login. You can just play. Of course, no balance will be kept and you start with full 10,000 (unit/dollar) next time around.

Thank you for trying...Ala
Duke
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June 3rd, 2013 at 2:19:15 PM permalink
Could you provide me lead/URL for where you have seen this? Please try it see if it is what you have seen. No need for login.
Zcore13
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June 3rd, 2013 at 3:21:53 PM permalink
Looks like the site went down? I'm unable to get to it and get an error message "This webpage is not available"

ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
MrCasinoGames
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June 3rd, 2013 at 3:37:26 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Looks like the site went down? I'm unable to get to it and get an error message "This webpage is not available"
ZCore13


The Site is still up. Play Ala Poker.

Nice Game, Good work.

Quote: Duke

Could you provide me lead/URL for where you have seen this? Please try it see if it is what you have seen. No need for login.


I have seen this kind of hold'em games in many online casinos before. Sorry I can't find the lead/URL for you as it has been so long ago.

Good Luck with your game.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
Duke
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June 3rd, 2013 at 3:44:38 PM permalink
Sorry we took it down for a moment. You hit it then. Try it now www.alapoker.net
Zcore13
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June 3rd, 2013 at 3:45:45 PM permalink
Got it. Thanks

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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
Venthus
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June 3rd, 2013 at 6:35:09 PM permalink
Got a visual bug here.

10 hands, hand in the upper-right is a 4hKd; the 4h is invisible. Visible via the bet menu though.

Edit: Had another invisible card in the flop. Couldn't determine what it was though. Win8/Chrome.
Duke
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June 3rd, 2013 at 6:48:02 PM permalink
Works fine at my end. What browser and version are you using?
Canyonero
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June 4th, 2013 at 6:17:27 AM permalink
Gave it a try and liked it. It reminds me of Sigma Derby (available at The D). If the odds are acceptable I would definitely play this live. Like Sigma Derby this could be great fun in a group, betting with or against each other and then rooting for your hand.

I guess it would have to be a visual / emotional experience. Like the hand playing out on a giant video screen with animated players that react to the cards being dealt and to their winning or losing. Maybe even an audio commentator (missing at Sigma Derby). Each (actual) player would have their electronic betting console in front of them.

You might have a chance if your product is good and the timing is right. One of theses days casino operators will have to realize their stupid slot machines just don't cut it anymore for the next generation of gamblers.
Canyonero
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June 4th, 2013 at 6:18:09 AM permalink
Quote: Venthus

Got a visual bug here.

10 hands, hand in the upper-right is a 4hKd; the 4h is invisible. Visible via the bet menu though.

Edit: Had another invisible card in the flop. Couldn't determine what it was though.



confirmed on windows 7 / latest edition of Firefox.
Duke
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June 4th, 2013 at 9:29:19 AM permalink
Ty for trying and for your comments. Those are great ideas.

What I envisioned for casion was more like a larger table (not as lrage as craps but larger than blackjack tables) where there are stations/spots with monitor to reflect the odds as the dealer deals the hands (electronically or manually that is quickly read). Then as you say people start betting and "rooting" for their hands. They then have fund hedging on the following streets.

One issue would be who will choose how many hands when there are multiple players. Perhaps this can be also a variation by the hosue where there several tables with various numbers of hands (raging from 2-hand game all the way to 10 handed games).

BTW I am using IE and do not see that bug. Students who helped me develop it say it works best on Chrome.
Duke
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June 8th, 2013 at 6:40:41 AM permalink
Is not odds set through industry standards enforced by gaming commissions / supervising entity? I have read - for example - that for slot machines it can range from as high as 97% to as low as in the 80s. I would not play the latter %s but I guess some remote places can go that low with no competition. So, I think that will be comparable to other games and what the industry standards are.

Of course another option is to simply have equal odd but take a rake - like live poker. A small % that is capped.
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June 8th, 2013 at 6:50:15 AM permalink
Quote: Canyonero

... If the odds are acceptable I would definitely play this live. ....



Is not odds set through industry standards enforced by gaming commissions / supervising entity? I have read - for example - that for slot machines it can range from as high as 97% to as low as in the 80s. I would not play the latter %s but I guess some remote places can go that low with no competition. So, I think that will be comparable to other games and what the industry standards are.

Of course another option is to simply have equal odd but take a rake - like live poker. A small % that is capped.
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June 8th, 2013 at 1:46:38 PM permalink
Quote: Duke

Could you provide me lead/URL for where you have seen this?.


Hi Duke,
Here is one link for you: How to Play Poker Bet.

It's poker action - casino style!

Poker Bet is just like a game of Texas Hold'em Poker, except here you can stake chips on any of the six hands dealt.
You win money by betting on the winning Poker hand at the table. The less likely a hand is to win, the higher it pays.

There are 4 rounds of betting:

Round 1: Before the hole cards are dealt.
Round 2: Before the flop.
Round 3: Before the turn.
Round 4: Before the river.

To bet on a hand, just click on the chip you want, then place it on the table by clicking on the 'bet' area next to the hand you want to bet on.

After you've placed all your bets, click on Deal to continue to the next betting round.

Your potential winnings on each bet are displayed in the Information Box next to each hand.

Messages and instructions are displayed in the Message Tab below the table.

You can keep track of all the bets you placed on the table during a given hand by clicking on the Current Bets Tab below the table.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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June 8th, 2013 at 2:05:32 PM permalink
Quote: Duke

Could you provide me lead/URL for where you have seen this?


Hi Duke,

Here is one call Prop Hold’em, you can click on the link to Play for fun: Prop Hold’em Play for fun.

Prop Hold’em Page.

Prop Hold 'Em is a fixed odds game that allows you the ultimate side betting opportunity - to watch a whole game of Texas Hold 'Em, switch your betting allegiances between the players’ eight starting hands as the game progresses and place proposition (side) bets on the cards dealt while in-play.

You can see all of the hands dealt. Winning odds are given for every hand at every round of betting. These winning odds change as the rounds progress, thus affecting every hand's likeliness of winning.

You can bet on any hand during any round and you can bet on multiple hands. This is your chance to make sure the odds are stacked in your favour!

Proposition bets are available during the pre-flop, flop and turn rounds and are accessible via the 'Proposition Bets' button. Proposition bets available include the number of the next card dealt - selectable via the slider or by clicking individual numbers; whether the number will be higher or lower than the previous card dealt, odd or even and finally, the suit or colour of the next card dealt. Higher and Lower bets only become available in the flop round as they are dependent on a card already being dealt. You may place as many Proposition Bets as you wish.

Click 'Add to Bet Slip' and your proposition bets will be added to the bets slip viewable via the 'Bets' tab. These bets will only be submitted when you submit your standard bets by clicking 'Submit All Bets', until then, they are cancelable via the 'x' button.

Texas Hold 'Em is a poker game variant in which each player is dealt two cards. These two cards, along with three others selected from a total of five drawn from the deck (called community cards) and dealt in the middle of the table, make up the best possible poker hand for the player. The community cards are dealt in three stages: 1) the 'flop' (the first three cards), 2) the 'turn' (the fourth card) and 3) the 'river card' (the final card). Also, there are four rounds of betting: 1) the blind round, after the initial dealing of the player's two cards, 2) the pre-flop round, after the player's hands have been revealed, 3) the flop round, after the flop has been dealt and 4) the turn round, after the turn has been dealt.

Return to Player: 92.05%
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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June 8th, 2013 at 2:07:51 PM permalink
Could there be a play-for-fun that's accessible from the US?
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
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June 9th, 2013 at 7:43:33 AM permalink
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Hi Duke,

Here is one call Prop Hold’em, you can click on the link to Play for fun: Prop Hold’em Play for fun.

Prop Hold’em Page.




Both do not allow US player access. ReefClub requires setting up an account and US is not among the countries.
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June 10th, 2013 at 1:54:36 AM permalink
Quote: Duke

Quote: MrCasinoGames

Hi Duke,

Here is one call Prop Hold’em, you can click on the link to Play for fun: Prop Hold’em Play for fun.

Prop Hold’em Page.



Both do not allow US player access. ReefClub requires setting up an account and US is not among the countries.


That is why I put the Rules down, so if you can't access with the links, you still can see the rules of the game.

You can ask someone out side the US to have a look for you.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
Duke
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June 23rd, 2013 at 4:10:00 AM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Could there be a play-for-fun that's accessible from the US?



Just use my site. You can login with your face book or set up an account or just play as guest: www.alapoker.net

Let me know what you think?
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July 3rd, 2013 at 7:46:17 PM permalink
Did you try it: www.alapoker.net
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