Handicapped stall etiquette
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:21:43 PM
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You need to go #2 and the only empty stall in the men's room is the handicapped one. Is it morally permissible to use it?
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:38:19 PM
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Quote: WizardYou need to go #2 and the only empty stall in the men's room is the handicapped one. Is it morally permissible to use it?
I always use that stall anyway. When I have to
go, I am handicapped. Just because you're
handicapped, how does that mean you can't wait
like the rest of us. Can you get a handicapped
parking sticker because you're impatient?
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:47:09 PM
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Handicap stall is the only one wide enough for a wheelchair.
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:58:24 PM
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Of course. And while it wouldn't be "legal", I feel the same way about parking spaces. After driving myself to the hospital with a suspected broken foot after wrecking my bike , I was fully prepared to use the blue space. Morally, there was no wrong.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:07:37 PM
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Quote: FaceOf course. And while it wouldn't be "legal", I feel the same way about parking spaces. After driving myself to the hospital with a suspected broken foot after wrecking my bike , I was fully prepared to use the blue space. Morally, there was no wrong.
Legally it may not be.
Some years ago in Houston, my mother had to use a wheelchair or get around on crutches for a few days as a result of surgery. I don't know if the rental car agency could ahve arranged for a handicapped sticker, or wahtever was sued at the time, but my parents never even asked. They'd park at handicapped spots all the time, figuring they could explain if they saw a cop writing a ticket. They never did see anyone writing anything, but they got a ticket in the end. Since ti was a rental they didn't pay it....
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:14:04 PM
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Quote: rxwineHandicap stall is the only one wide enough for a wheelchair.
Yup. Does that mean we have to leave it vacant just for him?
I waited, he can wait. Why is him crapping his pants a bigger
deal than me crapping mine. Parking spaces I understand,
leaving the stall vacant I do not understand.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:17:33 PM
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Let me add that this poll assumes you are not in a wheelchair, or have some other reason why you would require the HC stall. I think having a HC license plate for some other handicap does not give one moral license to use the HC stall.
A bit off topic, but when the buffet lines here in Vegas run long, most of the people in the HC line don't look handicapped to me.
A bit off topic, but when the buffet lines here in Vegas run long, most of the people in the HC line don't look handicapped to me.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:22:01 PM
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Quote: WizardA bit off topic, but when the buffet lines here in Vegas run long, most of the people in the HC line don't look handicapped to me.
Whenever I go to any Disney park, I'm astonished at the large quantities of handicapped people in wheelchairs. It could be due to the fact that Disney does a lot to acommodate the handicapped, or because parties with one handicapped person bypass all lines. I'm not implying anything.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:29:56 PM
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Quote: WizardLet me add that this poll assumes you are not in a wheelchair, .
In a wheelchair or not, it doesn't give you sole
rights to the stall. Its their for your convenience,
not for your exclusive use. You have the right
to wait in line just like the rest of us. In fact,
if all the other stalls are empty, I will always
use the HC because its comfortable. And I'll
argue my right to use it all day long.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:33:18 PM
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It never even occured to me that it wasn't OK to use that stall. Everyone uses it all the time even if there is another one free. At my office we do not have anyone on our floor that uses a wheelchair. Should that stall be reserved just because somebody might happen by that needs to use it? We also have a locker room that has one handicapped shower and 2 standard ones. The handicapped shower is less desirable because there is no bench outside it so there is room for a wheelchair. I am pretty sure nobody with a wheelchair has ever used it and if the other two are in use it is open to everyone.
July 9th, 2012 at 5:22:07 PM
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My position is that it is okay to use. If a HC needs it, but it isn't urgent, they can wait just like I can. Granted there is a chance a HC person will need it and it will be urgent, but I think that is outweighed by the inconvenience of the non-HC standing in lines while the HC stall goes empty waiting for such times.
I'd like to hear from the person who voted "no."
Regarding Disneyland, where I used to work, I think the fair thing to do is have a non-HC friend or relative of the HC person wait in line for the HC person. When he gets then the HC can cut in line. For large groups, everyone waits except the HC person.
I'd like to hear from the person who voted "no."
Regarding Disneyland, where I used to work, I think the fair thing to do is have a non-HC friend or relative of the HC person wait in line for the HC person. When he gets then the HC can cut in line. For large groups, everyone waits except the HC person.
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:56:58 PM
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Quote:My position is that it is okay to use. If a HC needs it, but it isn't urgent, they can wait just like I can.
Let's say there's 4 stalls and 1 handicapped.
Non- handicapped can wait for the next available stall of 4 different people. Or 5 if using handicapped.
Handicapped person could wait 4 times as long once you take the stall.
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July 9th, 2012 at 6:11:16 PM
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Quote: NareedLegally it may not be.
I'm nearly positive it's not. And unless I found a very generous officer in the act of writing it, or if my leg had been completely missing (and still no guarantee even then), I would most assuredly get a ticket.
But the question was "morally", and, if I have a need to use the blue space, I will. "Because it's a long walk and it's 95* out" isn't moral, it's being a scumbag. "Because I broke my foot and can barely make it to the ER", is.
Back to the toilets, and I feel the same way. I rarely go to the bathroom simply to smell the urinal pucks and admire the tiling. I go because I have an urgent need. In some cases, like our secondary hockey rink, there is one stall and one HC stall. That's it. Even if it was sled week and the entire building was filled with paraplegic hockey players, I'll use it should the need arise.
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July 9th, 2012 at 7:05:56 PM
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I voted yes, we gotta shit too.
July 9th, 2012 at 7:31:36 PM
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Quote: rxwineHandicapped person could wait 4 times as long once you take the stall.
That actually makes for an interesting math problem. You can't just say it is four times as long. You need to consider the average stall time as well as the demand of the HC and non-HC. It could be more or less than 4x depending on the specifics. If anyone has the inclination, consider the following assumptions:
5 minutes per visit.
0.1% of visits are by the HC.
Mean visits to bathroom per hour of 36, Poisson distributed.
Scenario 1: non-HC choose stall randomly.
Scenario 2: non-HC defer to non-HC stall at first, but if none available go in the HC one.
What is the average wait time for both HC and non-HC under both scenarios?
Also, let me say that I will always go for a non-HC stall when given the choice, even though they are usually much filthier.
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July 9th, 2012 at 7:32:18 PM
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I went for the moral, "Gray Area," in the poll, which is, "Only if I needed to go really badly." I have IBS which tends to flare up sometimes, and when it does, there's basically a ten-minute clock that starts and it's going to get ugly if I don't get to the latrene by the time that countdown runs out.
I would have just said, "Yes," but my main concern is that someone may have a more urgent situation where I do not. If it is a guy in a wheelchair, for example, not only does he have to wait, but then he also has to take the time to hoist himself out of the wheelchair and onto the toilet. I can be in there, stall locked, and about my business in less than two seconds if I really have to, that guy's looking at another full minute.
However, the IBS presents an issue or urgency that even overrides that potential urgency to me. If I do not sit down on the latrene within ten minutes, I will most assuredly defecate in my pants, there's no two ways about it. It's happened to me, (not in a casino, thank God) but one time I was on my way home and this gas station on the way was closed when I stopped. There was a clerk outside, but he was insisting that he was done for the night and not going back inside to get me the bathroom key. I high-tailed it home, I was doing forty in a twenty-five, (and I never speed) ran inside the house, and made it as far as the living room. I was only ten feet away from the latrene!!!
I would have just said, "Yes," but my main concern is that someone may have a more urgent situation where I do not. If it is a guy in a wheelchair, for example, not only does he have to wait, but then he also has to take the time to hoist himself out of the wheelchair and onto the toilet. I can be in there, stall locked, and about my business in less than two seconds if I really have to, that guy's looking at another full minute.
However, the IBS presents an issue or urgency that even overrides that potential urgency to me. If I do not sit down on the latrene within ten minutes, I will most assuredly defecate in my pants, there's no two ways about it. It's happened to me, (not in a casino, thank God) but one time I was on my way home and this gas station on the way was closed when I stopped. There was a clerk outside, but he was insisting that he was done for the night and not going back inside to get me the bathroom key. I high-tailed it home, I was doing forty in a twenty-five, (and I never speed) ran inside the house, and made it as far as the living room. I was only ten feet away from the latrene!!!
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July 9th, 2012 at 7:37:32 PM
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Quote: Mission146There was a clerk outside, but he was insisting that he was done for the night and not going back inside to get me the bathroom key.
Next poll -- would it be morally justified to take a dump behind the gas station dumpster in that situation?
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July 9th, 2012 at 7:46:03 PM
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Why does everyone assume that handicapped = wheelchair? There are plenty of people who need to park in the blue spaces because they have respiratory or cardiac ailments that don't allow them to walk long distances, but they can still walk on their own.
As for handicapped public bathroom stalls, they're provided simply as a convenience to accommodate wheelchairs, they're not mini-medical stations that need to be free in case of emergencies. Someone in a wheelchair would have to wait if the stall were occupied by another wheelchair-bound person, so why can't they wait for anyone else too? If I go into a public bathroom and the handicapped stall is the only one available I will use it because I know I'll be out in a couple of minutes in the rare situation where a wheelchair-bound person suddenly comes thru the door.
FWIW, I have never been in a public bathroom at the same time as someone in a wheelchair. I'm not sure but it might have something to do with the fact that many people who suffer from serious, chronic debilitating conditions that require the use of a wheelchair full-time also probably use catheters, so they don't need to use public rest rooms. Someone with a broken ankle who's in a wheelchair temporarily might be able to hobble out of the chair and into a regular stall.
As for handicapped public bathroom stalls, they're provided simply as a convenience to accommodate wheelchairs, they're not mini-medical stations that need to be free in case of emergencies. Someone in a wheelchair would have to wait if the stall were occupied by another wheelchair-bound person, so why can't they wait for anyone else too? If I go into a public bathroom and the handicapped stall is the only one available I will use it because I know I'll be out in a couple of minutes in the rare situation where a wheelchair-bound person suddenly comes thru the door.
FWIW, I have never been in a public bathroom at the same time as someone in a wheelchair. I'm not sure but it might have something to do with the fact that many people who suffer from serious, chronic debilitating conditions that require the use of a wheelchair full-time also probably use catheters, so they don't need to use public rest rooms. Someone with a broken ankle who's in a wheelchair temporarily might be able to hobble out of the chair and into a regular stall.
July 9th, 2012 at 8:13:04 PM
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Quote: tsmithI will use it because I know I'll be out in a couple of minutes in the rare situation where a wheelchair-bound person suddenly comes thru the door.
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Again, its not HIS STALL! Its everybodies stall, its just made bigger
so he can use it. He can wait just like everybody else. There no
law or statute that says normal people can't use it.
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:15:47 PM
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Quote: WizardNext poll -- would it be morally justified to take a dump behind the gas station dumpster in that situation?
LOL
Only if you don't know what car he's driving...
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:58:15 PM
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Quote: WizardRegarding Disneyland, where I used to work,
Am I the only person here to be surprised that the Wizard worked at Disneyland? I can't picture you in mouse ears...
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July 9th, 2012 at 9:08:44 PM
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My "policy" in such situations: I use it, but if somebody who needs it enters (and makes it clear that they need that stall), I ask if another one is open, and if it is, then I switch.
July 9th, 2012 at 9:50:26 PM
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Yes, it is OK to use it. In a parking space you are gone and there is no idea how long until you are back. If a person needs it for a wheelchair or whatever you can defer to them and let them use it.
FWIW I use them all the time for the monte carlo parties. I need to change many times and the men's room is the place to do it. The big stall gives you a little, well a lot more room to change into your tux shirt, sometimes pants too if you are on moving detail.
FWIW I use them all the time for the monte carlo parties. I need to change many times and the men's room is the place to do it. The big stall gives you a little, well a lot more room to change into your tux shirt, sometimes pants too if you are on moving detail.
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:41:56 AM
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To poo or not to poo, Is this the question? I think the handi-crapper is there to add access for more people not to exclude anyone. And john galt owes me twenty bucks!
July 10th, 2012 at 2:02:26 AM
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Quote: WizardYou need to go #2 and the only empty stall in the men's room is the handicapped one. Is it morally permissible to use it?
I have on occasion used the handicapped stall for actions that didn't even involve #1 or #2 because it was the only acceptably clean one. Seems that at least some of the people who find it OK to mess up the restroom still hesitate to use the HC stall.
But it's still the last on my priority list.
There's about 1 wheelchair user per 100 in US and 1 per 200 in most of the world. (They need more time to do their business, but have lower presence in public places than in total, so it compensates.) There's an average of at least 1 handicapped stall per 5. This disparity in ratios only makes sense if that stall is available for both normal and handicapped use.
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July 10th, 2012 at 2:39:13 AM
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This sounds like a great episode of Seinfeld. Well now that I think about it, they kinda did one, where George got a job because the boss thought he was handicapped, so he faked being handicapped, getting his own bathroom and other perks.
July 10th, 2012 at 3:38:16 AM
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what about using the ladies bathroom if youre a man? the single person ones. i remember being on a roadtrip and stopped at a gas station. there was a line 4 or 5 deep for the mens bathroom and no line for the ladies. i thought they were all dumb for waiting so just went into the ladies. they were missing the point of why bathrooms are segregated in the first place. if the bathroom is only meant for one person at a time, the gender issue should become irrelevant.
July 10th, 2012 at 5:12:45 AM
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I say it's fine to use the handicap stall. But, use common sense.
In a public restroom, I'll only use the handicap stall if it's the last one available. However, at work, where there are no handicap employees, everyone's stall of preference is the handicap stall, primarily because the other stall is a tad too tight.
Or, as Larry the Cable Guy says, "The cripple stool is the Caddilac of the poopin stool." Why? "Because it's got those hand rails which come in handy if you need to do a power poop."
On the other hand, I don't use the blue parking spaces, and I detest the abuse of handicap privileges.
My former girlfriend had severe asthma. Bad enough that she had handicap plates, and a handicap parking spot right in front of her apartment building. Except she could walk just fine. She'd take the blue spaces at the mall, but then walk for miles inside. There was one time that I was with her that she got there early in the day, and took the blue space when there were plenty of other spaces nearby. I suggested she take a regular space, to keep the blue spaces open when the lot gets busier later in the day. She thought I was crazy, saying something about how she was entitled to the blue space....
The only female in the place is the bartender, and she hates it when guys use the ladies room. Why? Because guys far too often forget to lower the seat, or worse, don't bother to raise it for #1.
On a related note, why the hell can't women learn to check to see that the seat is down before they squat?
In a public restroom, I'll only use the handicap stall if it's the last one available. However, at work, where there are no handicap employees, everyone's stall of preference is the handicap stall, primarily because the other stall is a tad too tight.
Or, as Larry the Cable Guy says, "The cripple stool is the Caddilac of the poopin stool." Why? "Because it's got those hand rails which come in handy if you need to do a power poop."
On the other hand, I don't use the blue parking spaces, and I detest the abuse of handicap privileges.
My former girlfriend had severe asthma. Bad enough that she had handicap plates, and a handicap parking spot right in front of her apartment building. Except she could walk just fine. She'd take the blue spaces at the mall, but then walk for miles inside. There was one time that I was with her that she got there early in the day, and took the blue space when there were plenty of other spaces nearby. I suggested she take a regular space, to keep the blue spaces open when the lot gets busier later in the day. She thought I was crazy, saying something about how she was entitled to the blue space....
By chance, this topic came up last night at the bar where I was dealing for my poker league.Quote: rudeboyoiwhat about using the ladies bathroom if youre a man? the single person ones.
The only female in the place is the bartender, and she hates it when guys use the ladies room. Why? Because guys far too often forget to lower the seat, or worse, don't bother to raise it for #1.
On a related note, why the hell can't women learn to check to see that the seat is down before they squat?
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July 10th, 2012 at 5:48:34 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
On a related note, why the hell can't women learn to check to see that the seat is down before they squat?
I have been asking that question for years but have long been hard-wired to lower the seat after peeing...
July 10th, 2012 at 5:59:35 AM
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From Curb Your Enthusiasm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgedBRXw7fY
Also, I have a blind buddy who I meet in Vegas at least once a year. I rent a car so he brings his handicapped placard so we can park close. To piss him off, I valet everywhere hehe
Also, I have a blind buddy who I meet in Vegas at least once a year. I rent a car so he brings his handicapped placard so we can park close. To piss him off, I valet everywhere hehe
July 10th, 2012 at 6:32:04 AM
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what about expectant mother parking spots? has anyone else seen those before? i wonder if there are any laws regarding those or they are just a courtesy provided by the store.
July 10th, 2012 at 11:51:45 AM
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At Disneyland I have seen cast members allow the wheelchair's entire group go together on an attraction, but make them wait a certain amount of time. It probably depends on the particular ride as each have different loading requirements such as:
"It's a Small World" only has 1 wheelchair-accessible boat.
"Space Mountain" lets you load via transfer at your own pace onto a separate rocket which is sitting on a track spur, then switches that rocket onto the main track, etc)
and the 'best' one is "Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters" because the ride must temporarily stop when a person must transfer form wheelchair to the ride vehicle. However while the ride is stopped, the guns are still active so you can continue to rack up points. I suppose if you really wanted to you could have your buddy line up x # of people behind you in line so that you can have the ride stopped while you are in the Zurg room so you can keep shooting at the secret target for big points.
"It's a Small World" only has 1 wheelchair-accessible boat.
"Space Mountain" lets you load via transfer at your own pace onto a separate rocket which is sitting on a track spur, then switches that rocket onto the main track, etc)
and the 'best' one is "Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters" because the ride must temporarily stop when a person must transfer form wheelchair to the ride vehicle. However while the ride is stopped, the guns are still active so you can continue to rack up points. I suppose if you really wanted to you could have your buddy line up x # of people behind you in line so that you can have the ride stopped while you are in the Zurg room so you can keep shooting at the secret target for big points.
July 10th, 2012 at 12:00:49 PM
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Quote: WizardA bit off topic, but when the buffet lines here in Vegas run long, most of the people in the HC line don't look handicapped to me.
Some of the handicapped buffet lines are dual purpose. Point rewards and/or handicapped.
Although, I'm pretty sure there are still people in it who do not belong for either reason.
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July 10th, 2012 at 12:16:07 PM
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Quote: slytherAt Disneyland I have seen cast members allow the wheelchair's entire group go together on an attraction, but make them wait a certain amount of time. It probably depends on the particular ride as each have different loading requirements such as:
"It's a Small World" only has 1 wheelchair-accessible boat.
"Space Mountain" lets you load via transfer at your own pace onto a separate rocket which is sitting on a track spur, then switches that rocket onto the main track, etc)
and the 'best' one is "Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters" because the ride must temporarily stop when a person must transfer form wheelchair to the ride vehicle. However while the ride is stopped, the guns are still active so you can continue to rack up points. I suppose if you really wanted to you could have your buddy line up x # of people behind you in line so that you can have the ride stopped while you are in the Zurg room so you can keep shooting at the secret target for big points.
Do not get me started on wheelchair abuse at Disney parks. We go once or twice a year, and my husband's specialty has him treating handicapped people, so he is very alert to situations dealing with accessibility. Two years ago, we were heading across the country to go to Disneyland and my oldest son broke his foot the day before the trip. The doctor missed the break and called us once the radiologist saw the xray the next day, so we found an orthopoedist in the city we were visiting who would at least try to file the insurance rather than just charge out of pocket, and he put my son in a walking cast and told him to stay off of it as much as possible. This meant we needed to rent a wheelchair or scooter for him to use in the theme park.
We ended up seeing many of the same people at the accessible entrances to the rides, but there was always a group or two in which you'd see a different person in the chair at different rides. They pretty much tried to use the chair as an all-day FastPass. The accessible line for Space Mountain tends to be very slow-moving since they have a dedicated rocket as you described, so those groups would usually use the front entrance with a FastPass instead. Losers.
The handicap stalls in women's rooms usually also have a baby changing table, so they aren't necessarily reserved solely for wheelchair use. I say go for any empty stall, but if there is a line and someone enters in a wheelchair I'd let them cut to the front once the big stall opens. But lines are more of a ladies' room deal.
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July 10th, 2012 at 12:28:09 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearOn a related note, why the hell can't women learn to check to see that the seat is down before they squat?
It's one of life's little mysteries. One would think that having a guaranteed non-piss-covered seat is more important than the effort of lowering it. But somehow it turned into some kind of a beige with a bit of yellow colored flag of feminism.
By the way I happened to forget to put the seat down before sitting down. OK... it's not pleasant. Not a tragedy either, assuming you're in a home or another place where the toilet device is kept clean.
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July 10th, 2012 at 12:32:11 PM
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Quote: FarFromVegasbut there was always a group or two in which you'd see a different person in the chair at different rides. They pretty much tried to use the chair as an all-day FastPass.
If you can spot this, why can't the Disney people? I went
to Disneyworld once, about 20 years ago, and wouldn't
go again if it was free. Pay a whole bunch of money to
stand around all day. Gee, I can do that at home for free.
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July 10th, 2012 at 12:40:07 PM
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Quote: FarFromVegasWe ended up seeing many of the same people at the accessible entrances to the rides, but there was always a group or two in which you'd see a different person in the chair at different rides.
I saw that a few times.
I don't suppose this advice will do you any good since you have children. The best time to visit any Disney park is off season, say in September. There are no lines to speak of.
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:27:20 PM
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Quote: NareedI saw that a few times.
I don't suppose this advice will do you any good since you have children. The best time to visit any Disney park is off season, say in September. There are no lines to speak of.
We used to do this, back in the day when the kids were little. Last year and the year before I took my daughter on solo trips then since it doesn't really matter if you miss a few days of kindergarten or first grade, at least if you're as advanced as she is (she has to keep up with a bunch of teenaged brothers, so she's as sharp as they come!)
I think the Disney people either don't notice since they're usually confined to one area (Frontierland costumes don't blend in in Tomorrowland) or they are pretty much supposed to let it slide. What can they do, anyway?
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:36:52 PM
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Quote: FarFromVegasI think the Disney people either don't notice since they're usually confined to one area (Frontierland costumes don't blend in in Tomorrowland) or they are pretty much supposed to let it slide. What can they do, anyway?
Oh, do you know how fast a shyster can file a lawsuit, complete with affidavits from every quack west of the Mississippi swearing up and down how handicapped poor Joey really is?
Besides, the wheel chair rental surely brings in a little money.
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:47:47 PM
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I use the handicap stall all the time; unless of course there is a handicapped guy in there!
But I hate to see an able-bodied person park in a handicapped spot. That really pisses me off.
Am I a hypocrite?
But I hate to see an able-bodied person park in a handicapped spot. That really pisses me off.
Am I a hypocrite?
July 10th, 2012 at 1:50:07 PM
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Quote: RoundManI use the handicap stall all the time; unless of course there is a handicapped guy in there!
But I hate to see an able-bodied person park in a handicapped spot. That really pisses me off.
Am I a hypocrite?
One of my favorite form of exercise, especially after I see an able body person walk away from that handicap spot, is to surround that car with as many carts as I can find.
July 10th, 2012 at 2:12:57 PM
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If I use the public bathroom and need to go #2, I always use the handicapped stall unless there is a handicapped person in line. They have rails for power-squeezing and you have all the room in the world. It's like pooping in first class.
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July 10th, 2012 at 2:15:30 PM
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Quote: buzzpaffOne of my favorite form of exercise, especially after I see an able body person walk away from that handicap spot, is to surround that car with as many carts as I can find.
I had a friend who had a severe sensitivity to car exhaust, as well as other forms of air pollution. Otherwise, she was perfectly fine. However, it was very uncomfortable for her to walk in parking lots due to the dirty air. She remarked that often she got lectured about able-bodied people taking a HC spot, but she had a legitimate need for it.
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July 10th, 2012 at 2:20:50 PM
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Quote: WizardI had a friend who had a severe sensitivity to car exhaust, as well as other forms of air pollution. Otherwise, she was perfectly fine. However, it was very uncomfortable for her to walk in parking lots due to the dirty air. She remarked that often she got lectured about able-bodied people taking a HC spot, but she had a legitimate need for it.
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July 10th, 2012 at 8:38:59 PM
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I have often used the women's restroom because it makes me feel sexy...
I'm just kidding.
In all seriousness, I've had to go into the women's restroom (single stall or otherwise) because I have a young son who was once a baby as well as a baby daughter and not every venue offers a baby-changing station in the men's room. I don't know if the assumption is that men don't take their kids anywhere by themselves, or what's going on there, but it is often the case.
My son and I would occasionally, but rarely, hit Burger King if we are out running errands because we are vegetarians and it is the only place that has veggie burgers. Nutritionally speaking, they're actually not that bad, but that fact is probably negated by getting fries with them. In any event, the Burger King nearest to where we run said errands has no baby-changer in the men's restroom, so I'd always have to get a female employee to check the ladies room and then watch the door so I could change the kid. I don't think I've taken my daughter to BK yet because shopping, in and of itself, is more difficult with two than it is with one.
Taco Bell, I believe, also does not have the baby station in the men's room. I'm not 100% sure, it was either there or somewhere else that I had to do the ladies room thing.
There is also a discount store where we live, and I go there for granola bars, fruit & grain bars and spices because all of those items are ridiculously cheap there. I wouldn't even go in there for those things, but it's pretty conveniently located and we don't have to worry about the stuff sitting in the car while we do the main shopping at Kroger. In any event, that store also does not have a men's room baby station, but the ladies room there is one stall and has a lock.
I think it's kind of irritating for a place not to have a baby station in the mens room as well as the ladies, but, oh well.
I'm just kidding.
In all seriousness, I've had to go into the women's restroom (single stall or otherwise) because I have a young son who was once a baby as well as a baby daughter and not every venue offers a baby-changing station in the men's room. I don't know if the assumption is that men don't take their kids anywhere by themselves, or what's going on there, but it is often the case.
My son and I would occasionally, but rarely, hit Burger King if we are out running errands because we are vegetarians and it is the only place that has veggie burgers. Nutritionally speaking, they're actually not that bad, but that fact is probably negated by getting fries with them. In any event, the Burger King nearest to where we run said errands has no baby-changer in the men's restroom, so I'd always have to get a female employee to check the ladies room and then watch the door so I could change the kid. I don't think I've taken my daughter to BK yet because shopping, in and of itself, is more difficult with two than it is with one.
Taco Bell, I believe, also does not have the baby station in the men's room. I'm not 100% sure, it was either there or somewhere else that I had to do the ladies room thing.
There is also a discount store where we live, and I go there for granola bars, fruit & grain bars and spices because all of those items are ridiculously cheap there. I wouldn't even go in there for those things, but it's pretty conveniently located and we don't have to worry about the stuff sitting in the car while we do the main shopping at Kroger. In any event, that store also does not have a men's room baby station, but the ladies room there is one stall and has a lock.
I think it's kind of irritating for a place not to have a baby station in the mens room as well as the ladies, but, oh well.
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July 10th, 2012 at 9:04:32 PM
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About 10 years ago I was on crutches after knee surgery. After a follow-up exam at the orthopedic surgeon's office, I used the facilities and the handicapped stall. I had an immobilizer on my leg and couldn't bend it, so I needed the extra room to get positioned at least somewhat comfortably.
I heard a couple people come in, talking. One cursed, but didn't think much of it. I finished, got myself situated, flushed, opened the door standing with my back mostly toward it while gathering my other crutch. Then I started to get told off for using the handicapped stall by one of the guys, who was in a wheelchair. He shut up a few seconds later when he saw me crutch over to the sink. He did apologize, saying he just assumed that I didn't have any impairment.
I have also used the handicapped stalls during a really bad gout attack in my knee, when it was painful and extremely difficult to bend my knee enough to sit comfortably. But in that case, it was pretty obvious to anyone who looked that I had some medical issues impacting my mobility.
I heard a couple people come in, talking. One cursed, but didn't think much of it. I finished, got myself situated, flushed, opened the door standing with my back mostly toward it while gathering my other crutch. Then I started to get told off for using the handicapped stall by one of the guys, who was in a wheelchair. He shut up a few seconds later when he saw me crutch over to the sink. He did apologize, saying he just assumed that I didn't have any impairment.
I have also used the handicapped stalls during a really bad gout attack in my knee, when it was painful and extremely difficult to bend my knee enough to sit comfortably. But in that case, it was pretty obvious to anyone who looked that I had some medical issues impacting my mobility.
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July 10th, 2012 at 9:11:58 PM
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which restroom do you go into in these situations?
dad with little girl.
mom with little boy.
dad with little girl.
mom with little boy.
July 10th, 2012 at 9:31:05 PM
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Quote: RoundManBut I hate to see an able-bodied person park in a handicapped spot. That really pisses me off.
How can you tell what their handicap is? Just because they're not in wheelchairs doesn't mean they didn't qualify for that rearview mirror hangtag at some time in the past. May they have gout once in a while and abuse that tag more often than they should. I know a guy who has "bad knees" (whatever that means) and has a tag, but he seems to walk fine most of the time, and he totally abuses his tag. I know another guy who uses his mother's tag all the time.
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July 10th, 2012 at 9:50:05 PM
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Quote: zippyboyI know another guy who uses his mother's tag all the time.
A friend of mines wife died in 2010 and her tag expires
in 2014. He uses it every day and is going to try and
get it renewed in 2014. I read that in big cities like
NY and Philly, 60% of the tags you see are fake. The
people with real tags don't have a chance.
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July 11th, 2012 at 4:07:49 AM
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Quote: EvenBobA friend of mines wife died in 2010 and her tag expires in 2014. He uses it every day and is going to try and get it renewed in 2014. I read that in big cities like NY and Philly, 60% of the tags you see are fake. The people with real tags don't have a chance.
At the risk of angering my parents, they use my Grandma's "nonexpiring" tags that are issued in the state she lived in. My dad isn't in the best of health now and would qualify for handicapped tags given his knee and back situation, but they were using it before that even. They always insist on using it even when there is close parking available, which kind of angers me.
However, I see a LOT of people who use old nonexpiring tags and they are abusing it as well.
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