New and improved Vegas map
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:50:50 AM
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I had lots of justified complaints about my old Vegas map. Please have a look at the latest one. I would be interested in any comments, because I can still ask for changes. Don't bother to say that Palazzo is misspelled, I already know. Do you think I should ask for more streets, like Harmon, Desert Inn, and Valley View? Should I ask to remove the chips, and have shapes approximating the size of each property? Should I change "The Strip!" to "Las Vegas Blvd."? Do you prefer the big or the small map? Once I nail this one down, I will add others for downtown and all of Vegas. Thanks in advance.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 9:14:08 AM
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Quote: WizardShould I ask to remove the chips, and have shapes approximating the size of each property?
that would be my vote. Obviously you have already considered just adding a key to the old map.
Quote: WizardShould I change "The Strip!" to "Las Vegas Blvd."?
Both!
Quote: WizardDo you prefer the big or the small map?
Keep both and actually, if you have paid for it already, include that old map too.
Does the color of the chips need a key?
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February 23rd, 2010 at 9:17:36 AM
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It would be awesome if the big map was right side up. :)
I like how you currently have it, though. Going another route might make it too similar to the cheapovegas map.
I like how you currently have it, though. Going another route might make it too similar to the cheapovegas map.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:36:17 AM
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My opinions...not worth more than 2 cents...
The chips are fine, since the map is not to scale. It shows me where they line up, which helps me a lot.
I kind of like the small map...
I would put both "Las Vegas Blvd" and "The Strip!"
Should Ellis Island be on this map?
This is great...look forward to having these references!!
The chips are fine, since the map is not to scale. It shows me where they line up, which helps me a lot.
I kind of like the small map...
I would put both "Las Vegas Blvd" and "The Strip!"
Should Ellis Island be on this map?
This is great...look forward to having these references!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:43:31 AM
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Check out the legend on the Small Map...I think Hilton is duplicated.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 9:53:13 AM
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Quote: WizardI had lots of justified complaints about my old Vegas map. Please have a look at the latest one. I would be interested in any comments, because I can still ask for changes. Don't bother to say that Palazzo is misspelled, I already know. Do you think I should ask for more streets, like Harmon, Desert Inn, and Valley View? Should I ask to remove the chips, and have shapes approximating the size of each property? Should I change "The Strip!" to "Las Vegas Blvd."? Do you prefer the big or the small map? Once I nail this one down, I will add others for downtown and all of Vegas. Thanks in advance.
1. I like the big map, no need to look at the key and very easy to read. I didn't match it all up, but I assume all the same casinos are on both?
2. The streets are fine as they are. This will be a "walking map" so no need to add details that will also add confusion.
3. Keep the chips, same "simplicity" logic as above.
4. I prefer "Las Vegas Blvd" for no better reason than "just because I do." A map isn't going to help anyone who doesn't know they are the same.
5. On the big map, the one I like, you may want to consider color-coding the chips for the families of casinos. (ie: all Harrah's properties one color; all LVS another, etc.) This way people will know that to find different rules or feartures they can go to a different parent company.
6. I don't see the Rio?
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February 23rd, 2010 at 10:05:54 AM
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Add a small scale in a corner for distance (and estimated walking time?)
I like the replacing chips with a figure the shape and size of the property
I like the replacing chips with a figure the shape and size of the property
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February 23rd, 2010 at 10:22:39 AM
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Noting where the Strip "bridges" are would be a good feature for using this as a walking map.
I like the property shapes as opposed to the chips.
I like the property shapes as opposed to the chips.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 10:22:45 AM
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Probably because you're looking in the wrong place, since the map is upside-down.Quote: AZDuffman6. I don't see the Rio?
Who draws a map with North facing down?
The strip should have both names: Las Vegas Blvd - The STRIP!
I find the chips annoying. Combined with the odd text effect and the angle of the casino names on the big map, and it's annoying. The chips aren't so bad on the small map.
Yeah, I think putting in additional roads would be helpful - but they don't need to be as wide, in color, or even named.
Quite frankly, there are hundreds of maps of Vegas that can be found online without too much effort. If you're gonna bother making a new map, make it unique. But I think the old map is prety unique. I kinda like it with the casinos drawn as they appear. If that map had keys and street names, it would be perfect.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 10:27:50 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearProbably because you're looking in the wrong place, since the map is upside-down.Quote: AZDuffman6. I don't see the Rio?
I take that back, I looked again. I thought it was further south behind Luxor or so. My msitake.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 11:13:19 AM
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Sigh.... The more I look at it, the more I hate it.
Paradise Road doesn't lead to downtown. It ends at Sahara.
On the small map:
All the casinos near I-15 should be numbered 1-6. I.E. The Palace Station is #6.
The casinos on the West side of the strip are 7-20. I.E. Stratosphere is #20.
The casinos on the East side are 21-35.
The casinos on Paradise are 36-39.
Here's a couple good ones:
http://www.vegas.com/lounge/map.html
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm
Here's my favorite:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/history/map/
It's an interactive historical map.
Initially it looks a bit like your current map, but hover over the buildings and the name pops up. But there's more: There is a timeline at the top. Select a different decade to see how Vegas looked in the past.
VERY cool.
Paradise Road doesn't lead to downtown. It ends at Sahara.
On the small map:
All the casinos near I-15 should be numbered 1-6. I.E. The Palace Station is #6.
The casinos on the West side of the strip are 7-20. I.E. Stratosphere is #20.
The casinos on the East side are 21-35.
The casinos on Paradise are 36-39.
Why not just link to a few?Quote: DJTeddyBearQuite frankly, there are hundreds of maps of Vegas that can be found online without too much effort.
Here's a couple good ones:
http://www.vegas.com/lounge/map.html
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm
Here's my favorite:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/history/map/
It's an interactive historical map.
Initially it looks a bit like your current map, but hover over the buildings and the name pops up. But there's more: There is a timeline at the top. Select a different decade to see how Vegas looked in the past.
VERY cool.
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February 23rd, 2010 at 11:24:48 AM
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I too thought that the LV Sun's interactive historical map was awesome when I saw it.
One of my favourite maps can be found at GoingtoVegas.com
Its simple, shows the pedestrian crossings, and major strip and a couple of off strip. locations
One of my favourite maps can be found at GoingtoVegas.com
Its simple, shows the pedestrian crossings, and major strip and a couple of off strip. locations
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February 23rd, 2010 at 11:29:02 AM
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The maps at www.visitlasvegas.com are pretty cool.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:30:00 AM
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Quote: WizardShould I ask to remove the chips, and have shapes approximating the size of each property?
+1.
Quote: WizardDo you think I should ask for more streets, like Harmon, Desert Inn, and Valley View?
+.5 at least. It should help with getting your bearings, hopefully.
Maybe another thing to do is add some scale back to the map. The big thing that stood out to me is that it looks like Planet Harrahwood and MGM Grand are right next door to each other, when in reality PH is by the north side of CityCenter and MGM is across from NYNY, and it's actually about a 10-15 minute walk between them. This should also help if Fontainebleau and Echelon are ever opened; it should be a lot easier to update the map.
Also, the big bend is further south, by Harrah's.
+1 to the pedestrian bridges as well.
Oh, and if you're going to put in Hard Rock, might as well put in Tuscany as well, since it's right around the corner.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:54:07 AM
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Small complaint, but I think O'Sheas should be on there if Slots A Fun is. I like the idea of a one-stop map to see ALL strip casinos...
February 23rd, 2010 at 12:05:18 PM
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Everything I will recommend has already been said, but I shall reiterate:
1. Please, the #1 problem, is the fact that North is South and South is North. Everyone I have had experience with sees it that way, every other map is that way.
2. Some relative size would be nice, maybe having a large map with every last detail on it.
1. Please, the #1 problem, is the fact that North is South and South is North. Everyone I have had experience with sees it that way, every other map is that way.
2. Some relative size would be nice, maybe having a large map with every last detail on it.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:16:13 PM
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Wiz
A fun map. I disagree about including O'Shea's because it is really just a part of Flamingo and it will make the map crowded.
You should include Terrible's, Tuscany and Ellis Island however since they should fit. And Palazzo is spelled Pilazzo. Harmon Avenue should probably be in there as well.
A fun map. I disagree about including O'Shea's because it is really just a part of Flamingo and it will make the map crowded.
You should include Terrible's, Tuscany and Ellis Island however since they should fit. And Palazzo is spelled Pilazzo. Harmon Avenue should probably be in there as well.
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:40:09 PM
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Quote: pacomartinPilazzo is spelled Palazzo.
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February 24th, 2010 at 9:24:32 PM
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Oh one other thing, it would be really nice if the number/names on the second one was not in the image so that someone could use the find function in their browser to find the correct one. I believe having both is best as well.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
February 26th, 2010 at 6:55:36 AM
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Another minor point, the Palms is across the street from the Gold Coast, not the Rio as shown on your "Casino Chip" map. With all the mistakes, I'm not sure I would trust that map.
February 26th, 2010 at 9:40:50 AM
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I do like the fact that the old map is now quite useful after looking at the new maps. Definitely keep it, they compliment each other well.
March 16th, 2010 at 1:00:21 PM
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For whatever reason, I decided to look at some of these maps again.
I still like http://www.lasvegassun.com/history/map/ for it's historical interactiveness.
But there are features on the http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm site that I didn't even realize were there.
Click on the THE Maps link at the top of the page and you get a MENU of alternate maps, including:
Map of: Who serves Coke, who serves Pepsi.
Map of: Corporate casinos - Who owns what.
(Interesting. All Harrah's properties serve Pepsi. MGM, Belagio and City Center serve Coke, the other MGM properties serve Pepsi.)
Map of: Monorail, with proposed and approved expansions.
Map of: Downtown with monorail link. (That monorail link didn't fit on the monorail map, I guess!)
There are additional maps there. Check it out!
I still like http://www.lasvegassun.com/history/map/ for it's historical interactiveness.
But there are features on the http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm site that I didn't even realize were there.
Click on the THE Maps link at the top of the page and you get a MENU of alternate maps, including:
Map of: Who serves Coke, who serves Pepsi.
Map of: Corporate casinos - Who owns what.
(Interesting. All Harrah's properties serve Pepsi. MGM, Belagio and City Center serve Coke, the other MGM properties serve Pepsi.)
Map of: Monorail, with proposed and approved expansions.
Map of: Downtown with monorail link. (That monorail link didn't fit on the monorail map, I guess!)
There are additional maps there. Check it out!
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http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
March 16th, 2010 at 1:11:29 PM
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Very cool. The Corporate Casinos map looks like a monopoly board. I am surprised that Harrah's just doesn't implode IP, Flamingo and Bills, build a new megacomplex and call it Harrah's, leaving the casino at Harrah's open while they do the construction. That would also drive all of the foot traffic to the other side of the street (Caesar's) and maybe give them a bump. There's not a pile of land there but enough with the Harrah's future at the back to make a statement.
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March 16th, 2010 at 1:26:01 PM
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Boy -
There is the problem of the small independent hotel in the middle of the block you're talking about.
There is the problem of the small independent hotel in the middle of the block you're talking about.
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December 23rd, 2010 at 2:43:23 AM
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I've been meaning to make an original map for Vegas Click for about ten years now, and I've finally done it:
Vegas Click strip map
Of course I also link to the Wizard's map, and several others.
Vegas Click strip map
Of course I also link to the Wizard's map, and several others.
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December 23rd, 2010 at 3:48:39 AM
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It's not bad! could be more readable, have interactive features, etc. Beats the pants off anything the Wizard came up with.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell! She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:15:40 AM
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Quote: MichaelBluejayI've finally done it.
Not a bad effort. Couple of suggestions: Extend the Monorail to the MGM Grand and include Koval and Audrie (including the dead end).
December 24th, 2010 at 10:17:49 AM
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Interactive -- that's a good idea. I'll add that to my list, but my to-do list is already several years long...
Thanks for the reminder about the Monorail stop at the MGM Grand, which I completely forgot about! It also turns out that there's a stop at the Convention Center separate from the Hilton. So I added that too, which meant that I had to add the convention center itself.
With a map like this it's a struggle to provide enough info that it's useful without providing so much that it becomes cluttered and unfriendly. It's a balancing act. And one of those places I'm drawing the line is with Koval and Audrie. It would *really* screw up the map, for very little benefit. I don't think I can justify it, sorry. I'm trying to include only the most important stuff.
Didja notice the map has the brand-new bus line from the airport? I can't believe it took until Dec. 2010 for the geniuses at the bus agency to put in a route that goes directly from the airport to the strip. (Actually, it was probably pressure from the taxi lobby that prevented such a route before now.) I probably have the only strip map at present that includes that bus route.
Thanks for the reminder about the Monorail stop at the MGM Grand, which I completely forgot about! It also turns out that there's a stop at the Convention Center separate from the Hilton. So I added that too, which meant that I had to add the convention center itself.
With a map like this it's a struggle to provide enough info that it's useful without providing so much that it becomes cluttered and unfriendly. It's a balancing act. And one of those places I'm drawing the line is with Koval and Audrie. It would *really* screw up the map, for very little benefit. I don't think I can justify it, sorry. I'm trying to include only the most important stuff.
Didja notice the map has the brand-new bus line from the airport? I can't believe it took until Dec. 2010 for the geniuses at the bus agency to put in a route that goes directly from the airport to the strip. (Actually, it was probably pressure from the taxi lobby that prevented such a route before now.) I probably have the only strip map at present that includes that bus route.
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October 14th, 2016 at 1:42:01 PM
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Quote: CommunityRyanHere's a map of a ton of car rental locations in Vegas on this site
Funny that the link works when quoted but not in his post.
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October 14th, 2016 at 2:11:10 PM
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Quote: BlueEagleQuote: CommunityRyanHere's a map of a ton of car rental locations in Vegas on this site
Funny that the link works when quoted but not in his post.
Newbies can't post links.
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 14th, 2016 at 2:42:58 PM
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It was a local law firm (Ladah Law) trying to spam the forum with links to their site to improve their search engine ranking. It's not only sleazy, it's stupid, because all the links on the forum are tagged with rel=nofollow which means that Google will ignore them for ranking purposes. (Heck, even without rel=nofollow, Google doesn't count forum links as worth very much, because anyone can post them.) Those jokers spammed me today by email trying to get me to link to their crappy maps and articles. And if you go to their site, one of the menu options purportedly takes you to a scholarship they offer, but if you're sucker enough to click it then it's just another full-page ad for their injury law services.
Anyway, it looks like a mod here removed the post, and the links from the quoted post, so problem solved. I wish the poster had been banned, though, since he's probably stupid enough to keep posting.
Anyway, it looks like a mod here removed the post, and the links from the quoted post, so problem solved. I wish the poster had been banned, though, since he's probably stupid enough to keep posting.
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October 14th, 2016 at 2:46:35 PM
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Don't we get enough ambulance chasers spamming our tv's?!?!
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 14th, 2016 at 5:02:20 PM
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Ironically, the link in the Wizard's original post doesn't work either. Well, it works, but it leads to a 404 error.Quote: IbeatyouracesNewbies can't post links.
If you sift thru this thread, you'll note that I am the artist that created the current WoV maps, located here: https://wizardofvegas.com/maps/
While the car rental map is cool, I agree that it was a disguised method of getting traffic to their website. That Google map could have been a stand-alone link.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
October 15th, 2016 at 1:40:02 AM
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Looked at the maps.
Looks like Sahara should be changed to SLS at least.
And The Quad has become The Linq Hotel & Casino, and Bill's with the X is now The Cromwell.
Looks like Sahara should be changed to SLS at least.
And The Quad has become The Linq Hotel & Casino, and Bill's with the X is now The Cromwell.
October 15th, 2016 at 1:56:21 AM
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Quote: pacomartinWiz
A fun map. I disagree about including O'Shea's because it is really just a part of Flamingo and it will make the map crowded.
I might just be blanking here, but isn't O'Shea's part of The Linq?
October 15th, 2016 at 2:02:57 AM
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Quote: tringlomaneLooked at the maps.
Looks like Sahara should be changed to SLS at least.
And The Quad has become The Linq Hotel & Casino, and Bill's with the X is now The Cromwell.
Agreed. If the map is being updated, there's little reason I can see not to not completely update it.
So "X" out Riviera, as well.
I like the logos, which makes it unique, but like others have noted, it distorts proportions. If you instead provided a footprint of each, you could better judge how far apart each casino is (and better show just how large a lot of them are).
As personal preference, I'd like more cross streets, than fewer because they serve as good landmarks if you don't use the map while actually walking. You can say "Oh, yeah, we're crossing Harmon, so we're almost to X". I think marking where the pedestrian bridges are would be helpful as well.
All of that said, if I'm honest, aren't most people here either regulars enough to know where everything is or are new to Vegas and would just use Google Maps on their phone? Do your stats say this is a heavily used feature on the site?
October 15th, 2016 at 4:11:38 PM
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Quote: BrewfangrbAgreed. If the map is being updated, there's little reason I can see not to not completely update it.
No one said the map is being updated. This thread was started in 2010 and was brought back to life by a brand new member who posted spam. The current map was last updated in 2013.
I can't find a link to this map on the WoV website, so probably few people other than DJTB knew it is still on the website. The closest thing I can find is https://wizardofvegas.com/hotels/
October 16th, 2016 at 1:16:25 AM
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Actually, some of the needed updates have already been done, and sent to Zuga. But when I sent them, I also made a comment that the map link is missing. I therefore figure he's got a reason for removing the link, so I haven't persued getting that page updated or making any newer changes.Quote: BlueEagleNo one said the map is being updated.
I can't find a link to this map on the WoV website, so probably few people other than DJTB knew it is still on the website.
For the record, I used the WoV search function to look for "map". The link I provided was the first hit.
Regarding the lack of additional details or minor streets on my maps, my goal was reference and style, not navigation. Take a look at the older map versions linked on the bottom of that page and you'll agree I met my goal.
You can use you map app for navigation and detail if needed...
Although I've added some major non-casino items, the casino criteria was that it needed to have a hotel as well as table games. That excludes O'Shea's, Joker's Wild and perhaps a few others.Quote: BrewfangrbI might just be blanking here, but isn't O'Shea's part of The Linq?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
October 17th, 2016 at 12:06:21 AM
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Quote: BlueEagleNo one said the map is being updated. This thread was started in 2010 and was brought back to life by a brand new member who posted spam. The current map was last updated in 2013.
My fault. I completely misunderstood. Sorry everyone.
