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Buzzard
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February 20th, 2014 at 2:30:17 PM permalink
Quote: Face

There are no uncertain caskets. There's one for all of us, and into them we all shall go. All of us too soon, all of us before we're ready. Time's ticking; make the most of yours =)




Quit reminding me OK Every time I Google some old friend, up pops an obituary. Bad as when I worked at AT&T in 1969.
Way back then people actually wrote things down on paper. REALLY. So when I had to do a callout in West Virginia, had to use old log books. Nothing like waking up a widow and 3 am and asking for her husband. Always wondered how long it took her to go back to sleep. Especially when she cried while telling me he was deceased ?
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
kubikulann
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February 21st, 2014 at 8:24:47 AM permalink
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Quote: kubikulann

If morons want to believe absurdities because they can't face reality, well... there is no law against being a moron, isn't it?


There's no need for the insults. There are many who preach or follow the word of Christ here. Few if any are morons nor do they deserve such a jab.

Are there moronic religious folk? Yup, sure as night doth follow day. There's Christian morons, Hindi morons, Sihk morons...and, of course, no shortage of atheist and agnostic morons. What view you hold is immaterial. If a Christian is a moron, converting to atheism does not fix his moronicity ;)

This was a logical test. I said "there exists A ^ B" and waited for someone reading it as "B -> A". You did!

Some morons believe in betting systems.
Some believe in astrology.
Some believe in Prince Charming, or in being able to change their boyfriend.
Some believe in the efficient market hypothesis.
Some believe in afterlife and a personal God.

These are all examples of choices of a belief system because they cannot face reality.

Now there can be non-morons who believe those things. In theory. Haven't met them yet, though...
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AxelWolf
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February 22nd, 2014 at 5:46:20 AM permalink
If there is a god, I don't know why everyone you ask has a different interpretation of everything surrounding God and the bible. You can ask 2 leaders in the same exact church and both will have different views on the same subjects. This makes no sense why god wants us to be so confused. Why are there literally hundreds of inconstancy's and contradictions in the bible. If Jesus can turn water in to wine, can't GOD just wave his magic wand and re-write the bible for us?

If got has a plan, its a sick and sadistic one.

Since he is God and all powerful, he can do anything. You think he would just clear up a few things for us.

I still don't know how it is Going to church on Sundays("sometimes") and being kind is good enough to get into heaven. Sounds so easy for such a complicated story, bible and understanding of god. I ask Why you, why do you think you get to go to heaven? There are much more deserving, god serving people in the world. If the 144 thousand numbers have any merit, I seriously doubt anyone on this forum has a chance in HELL to go to heaven.

I still don't understand why god picks entire regions to leave out of heaven. I don't understand why people who lived before the bible was spread around, won't have a chance to enter the kingdom of god.

Religion can never answer the hard questions with anything other then, "God has his reasons" This may be good for non free thinkers.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Wizard
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:10:24 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

All I know is Frgambke called me an atheist . That's a personal insult. However I do not wish any purgatory bestowed on you.



I don't want purgatory bestowed on myself, in case FrG is right. So let's file that one under misunderstandings, shall we?
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DeMango
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:18:37 AM permalink
In case anyone noticed a few years ago, purgatory was mostly done away with. No Scriptural basis for openers.
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:19:56 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

When I sit in church, I think sometimes that everything the people are doing might be for naught. But it makes you feel better. You're part of a community of like-minded people. The church I go to offers hope, encourages charity and mindfulness -- nothing wrong with those things. These things can be achieved as well via friendship and meditation as well.



Thank you for that very honest post. Not to to say you are, but it makes me wonder how many in the pews are faking their faith for the benefit of being part of a "like-minded" community.
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:20:37 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

In case anyone noticed a few years ago, purgatory was mostly done away with. No Scriptural basis for openers.



I'm pretty sure FrG supports the doctrine.
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DeMango
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:22:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thank you for that very honest post. Not to to say you are, but it makes me wonder how many in the pews are faking their faith for the benefit of being part of a "like-minded" community.



How about being elected POTUS??
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boymimbo
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February 22nd, 2014 at 7:22:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If there is a god, I don't know why everyone you ask has a different interpretation of everything surrounding God and the bible. You can ask 2 leaders in the same exact church and both will have different views on the same subjects. This makes no sense why god wants us to be so confused. Why are there literally hundreds of inconstancy's and contradictions in the bible. If Jesus can turn water in to wine, can't GOD just wave his magic wand and re-write the bible for us?

If got has a plan, its a sick and sadistic one.

Since he is God and all powerful, he can do anything. You think he would just clear up a few things for us.

I still don't know how it is Going to church on Sundays("sometimes") and being kind is good enough to get into heaven. Sounds so easy for such a complicated story, bible and understanding of god. I ask Why you, why do you think you get to go to heaven? There are much more deserving, god serving people in the world. If the 144 thousand numbers have any merit, I seriously doubt anyone on this forum has a chance in HELL to go to heaven.

I still don't understand why god picks entire regions to leave out of heaven. I don't understand why people who lived before the bible was spread around, won't have a chance to enter the kingdom of god.

Religion can never answer the hard questions with anything other then, "God has his reasons" This may be good for non free thinkers.



What are the hard questions?

The path to heaven, in the Christian church, is the firm belief (aka Faith) that Jesus is the Son of God, who died, was resurrected, and forgave us for all of our sins. Plain and simple. You don't have to go to church at all. You don't have to be a kind person, though if you truly believe that, you tend to be kind-hearted none-the-less.
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boymimbo
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February 22nd, 2014 at 7:31:10 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thank you for that very honest post. Not to to say you are, but it makes me wonder how many in the pews are faking their faith for the benefit of being part of a "like-minded" community.



I don't know. I'm enough of a scientist to understand that there is absolutely no physical proof of the existence of God, and that goes for a Christian God as well. That leaves us with faith alone. I don't poll the inner workings of the 200 or so people in the congregation, and I don't question their motives either.
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