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rdw4potus
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November 4th, 2012 at 6:00:38 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

September Table Games Revenue
$77,578,729 - Atlantic City
$59,301,910 - Pennsylvania

In addition Sands PA came within 1/2% of AC Ceasars for table games. Only Ceasars and Borgata make more money in table games now.

With the AC casinos being closed for Sandy, October will certainly be the first month that PA beats NJ in table game revenue. It will probably take another year before it happens without a storm (assuming nothing stops the NJ collapse).



Certainly? Nah. The storm only cost 3 days in October, and affected the Eastern PA casinos as well. NJ will win Oct. starting with a >20% advantage and being closed for less than a week in Nov, AC might win Nov as well.
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November 4th, 2012 at 10:43:24 AM permalink
I think AC will have a terrible November despite reopening so quickly, for one simple reason: the current gas crisis.

I almost went to the Sands today because I heard that gas is easy to get in PA.
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rdw4potus
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November 4th, 2012 at 10:52:44 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I think AC will have a terrible November despite reopening so quickly, for one simple reason: the current gas crisis.

I almost went to the Sands today because I heard that gas is easy to get in PA.



Cheap and easy to get in PA. In Western NJ, too, at least in the Philly area.
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pacomartin
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November 4th, 2012 at 11:01:25 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I think AC will have a terrible November despite reopening so quickly, for one simple reason: the current gas crisis.

I almost went to the Sands today because I heard that gas is easy to get in PA.



The Turkey Hill Minit Market{1140 Hellertown Road Bethlehem (610) 749-9469} right as you get off I78 to go to the casino is jammed with New Jersey people who are going to the casino and getting inexpensive gasoline at the same time. There is also an Exxon in the other direction that is crowded.

About a mile beyond the casino behind the Comfort Suites is another gas station. It will be less crowded.
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pacomartin
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November 21st, 2012 at 6:01:04 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Certainly? Nah. The storm only cost 3 days in October, and affected the Eastern PA casinos as well. NJ will win Oct. starting with a >20% advantage and being closed for less than a week in Nov, AC might win Nov as well.



And I stand corrected. Table games dropped in Pennsylvania as well (as you predicted). Pennsylvania has come close, but it has never broken $60 million for TG's ($59,861,456 is the peak for one month), so AC is still holds the lead (barely).

$55,296,643 Pennsylvania October Table Games
$60,242,234 Atlantic City October Table Games

Sands Bethlehem has 30 poker tables and 122 other tables. They received permission to add 31 new tables and rearrange 800 slot machines to fit them in. As long as they don't eliminate slots (and the state government's 55% cut) the state has no problem.

Sands Bethlehem makes $985 per day on poker table and $3322 on other tables. These are the highest numbers outside of Nevada. With the 31 new tables they hope to make the most table game revenue of any casino outside of Nevada. Currently they are still behind Borgata, Ceasars AC, and Charlestown West Virginia.

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November 21st, 2012 at 6:15:40 PM permalink
Maryland Live will be adding 150 table games this spring.
There have been over 2,00 on line applications.
After in-person interviews, vetting and culling, at least 1,000 applicants will be invited to attend the free Maryland Live Dealer School, which begins Jan. 7 .
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aceofspades
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November 21st, 2012 at 7:22:13 PM permalink
Quote: Gambit55

One thing that has been left out for $1 tables is you can avoid the 25 cent hand fee by playing 6-10 dollars.

However, the $10 maximum does make for limited profit spread, but you pretty much expected that by attempting to endure a $1 BJ table!



It has always been my understanding that the $.25 ante applied for all bets from $1-$5 but not on $10 bets (however, there are no bets allowed of $6, $7, $8 or $9

Has this changed?
AceCrAAckers
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November 21st, 2012 at 7:40:34 PM permalink
The Plaza will go down. The GN doesn't look all that good either nor Revel. AC still acts like it is only action in town. NJ gave Stanley Ho's daughter a hard time when she wanted to build in AC. Guess what she did. She increases her stake in Macau where they do more in one month than all of AC does in one year. Hell they do more in a week than AC does in a year.

What was Revel thinking when they tried to make it a club first with 20 something being their main clientele? You have to get up an escalator with a death plunge to get to the gambling floor. If you want to play poker, you can't find the room where it is held.
It isn稚 my dime or my 1.6 + billion dollars either. Revel will go down. Not enough of a draw to get players going there. They won稚 take away the Borgata痴 players. They have a stripper pole without the naked girls. What are they hoping for? The occasional drunk who wants to see scantily clad ladies who wants to gamble at the same time with loud music blaring in their ears. They have cornered this market.
I take Revel to go down first and Plaza a close second.
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vendman1
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November 21st, 2012 at 8:11:01 PM permalink
Not even close it's the Trump Plaza, it doesn't look like they are even trying. Yes Revel is doomed long term but I think they have enough cash to keep it going a while longer. The other "weak sisters" in town, Atl. Club, and GN are both actually developing a nitch for themselves I think. They might be OK.
WongBo
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November 21st, 2012 at 8:21:36 PM permalink
I stayed at Plaza last nigjt...call me nostalgic

That is the best location in Atlantic City
and here it is on the verge of collapse.
Symbolism much?
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