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Zcore13
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July 29th, 2018 at 11:59:36 PM permalink
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I've been playing BJ for over 30 years, all over the world. I've played every BJ Table game imaginable. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the ASM Machine Shuffle games dealt out of a shoe, are much worse than the Hand Shuffle games dealt out of a shoe. Same with double deck. The assumption is that you play basic strategy. I have observed over many years, the countless number of mind boggling losing streaks on machine shuffle games, whereas hand shuffle will have bad losing streaks, but also are balanced by good winning streaks. I don't know how the machine shuffler "clump" the cards, but I can tell you from OBSERVATION and with 100% certainty that the Machine Shuffle BJ will clump the cards to the house's favor. This is a fact. You will push alot on good pat hands. You will bust alot more. The dealer will make their hand (not bust) alot more often on a Machine Shuffle machine. No it's not paranoia, but rather a scientific observation over many many years of playing the game. I base my belief simply on 30+ years of playing BJ. I stress that nobody needs to be able to explain HOW it's done. Knowing it happens thru observation alone, and on a consistent basis, is proof enough for me. If anyone wants to challenge me, they simply don't know any better or work in the industry, and don't want people to know that the Machine Shuffle BJ clumps the cards in the house favor. It's true that a ASM Machine Shuffle game will allow the Casino to deal more hands per hour, but that's a moot point. Finally I will say this... If you want "proof" of How it's done, well I don't need any proof on "how" it's done. I just have to be confident that the Machine shuffle will in fact clump the cards. Again this is thru many years of observation. Think of it this way.... If you move to Las Vegas Nevada, you will notice simply from observation that it is hotter than hell in the Summer year after year. The reality is that you don't need to be a meteorologist with a burden of proof on "how" or "why" it's hotter than hell every Summer. Simply thru many years of living there, and by observation will convince anyone that Las Vegas is, and will in all probability continue to be hotter than hell in all the Summers in the future. I am not interested in debating my point with anyone, because to me, it would be like someone trying to convince me that Las Vegas is cold in the Summer. It's a waste of my time. I know what I know based on 30+ years of playing BJ all over the globe on ASM machine shuffle and Hand Shuffle games. I or anyone who understands this fact, is not paranoid. There is no reason for me to be biased toward one or the other. Stay clear of machine shuffle machines if you play basic strategy. Sure you may find a good machine shuffle game on rare occasions, but over the long haul, you will find that they are full of horrible losing streaks. You will (over the long haul) lose more hands on a Machine Shuffle machine. Period. You can take my advice, or find out the hard way on your own. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Forgive me if someone believes that sounds arrogant, but I am 100% certain that i am right about this fact. I'd like to save players alot of heartache. If you disagree, and insist on playing machine shuffle games, then don't come crying to me the day you finally figure it out on your own dime. If the Casinos are reading this post, then implement Hand Shuffle BJ. You'll see my bright shining face again. Thank you. Have a nice day everyone, and all the best.



You are wrong, but have a good day anyway.


ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
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July 30th, 2018 at 3:16:59 AM permalink
Quote: hitme21

I've been playing BJ for over 30 years, all over the world. I've played every BJ Table game imaginable. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the ASM Machine Shuffle games dealt out of a shoe, are much worse than the Hand Shuffle games dealt out of a shoe. . .

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Well, there we have it. Incontrovertible, definitive proof. Shall I close the thread now ? :o)

Oh.... and welcome to the forum HitMe21.
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August 1st, 2018 at 4:03:07 PM permalink
There you go ... ZCore13 is an Employee of a Casino. Oh I am so right ZCore13.... and you know it. And that's why you replied. Defend all you want, but the jig is up my friend. The word is out. No soup for you anymore.
hitme21
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August 1st, 2018 at 4:17:08 PM permalink
I'd leave it open as a warning to not play Machine Shuffle games. Boycott all Machine Shuffle BlackJack games. Play Hand Shuffle or nothing at all.

P.S. luv ur sarcasm. oh.. and please don't hurt yourself on the tables trying to prove me wrong. Consider my post to be "Tough Love". I won't debate the subject tho, because I know that I am 100% definitively correct. But maybe other people will like to debate amongst themselves?.... and share their BJ war stories. In the mean time you can find me on a Hand Shuffle BJ game. - Cheers!
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August 1st, 2018 at 4:19:40 PM permalink
Quote: hitme21

There you go ... ZCore13 is an Employee of a Casino. Oh I am so right ZCore13.... and you know it. And that's why you replied. Defend all you want, but the jig is up my friend. The word is out. No soup for you anymore.



Lol. Funny. And trust me... I gets lots of soup. :)


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August 1st, 2018 at 5:44:44 PM permalink
Quote: hitme21

I'd leave it open as a warning to not play Machine Shuffle games. Boycott all Machine Shuffle BlackJack games. Play Hand Shuffle or nothing at all.

P.S. luv ur sarcasm. oh.. and please don't hurt yourself on the tables trying to prove me wrong. Consider my post to be "Tough Love". I won't debate the subject tho, because I know that I am 100% definitively correct. But maybe other people will like to debate amongst themselves?.... and share their BJ war stories. In the mean time you can find me on a Hand Shuffle BJ game. - Cheers!



So you are saying ALL casinos that you a shuffle machine are cheating, not just a rare one? You don't think that it is just the house edge that has beaten you over your 30 years of BJ agony?
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August 1st, 2018 at 8:23:36 PM permalink
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Lol. Funny. And trust me... I gets lots of soup. :)


ZCore13

That's a Seinfeld reference.
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August 2nd, 2018 at 1:09:44 AM permalink
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That's a Seinfeld reference.



And a damn good one.
rainman
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August 2nd, 2018 at 1:17:32 AM permalink
Your opinion is not fact hitme., You have provided no evidence for your
claims, none, So I am unable to agree with you If you ever come across
any facts & evidence please let me know.
hitme21
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August 12th, 2018 at 10:31:20 AM permalink
The majority Machine Shuffle machines clump the cards, the majority of the time. Once in a while I'd find one that didn't have clumped cards, but it's rare. The occurrence of clumped cards in a hand shuffle game, is MUCH lower, in my experience over the years. I didn't come to this conclusion after a bad session, but rather many years of playing. I am 100% confident I am right. There are also preferred Hand Shuffle games especially how the dealer shuffle, but that's another topic. Best thing you can do to increase the % of hands that you win, is to play on Hand Shuffle BJ... Again... Assuming you are playing Basic Strategy. btw.. I don't agonize over it now, cuz I know better.

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