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May 23rd, 2014 at 8:12:04 AM permalink
I've been thinking about re-visiting the Royal Yak casino to update the article about it (if there be any changes), to see whether the infamous dice roulette is up by now, and to play craps (I've a baseless supicion they may have had put in bubble craps, too; I hope not, as it would be too tempting to play often).

Mostly I left Vegas without a single good craps session at a real craps table, and I want one now.

Anyway, the rules are 50 pesos minimum line bet and 2X odds only, 10 pesos minimum for prop bets. My idea is to bet one pass line bet with "full" odds, place the 6 & 8 and up to two come bets with odds at a time. That's 470 pesos total at max, or about $35 US. I'd bring along 2,000 pesos or around US $150, which is near enough to what I'd gamble in one session in Vegas.

I'll go either this weekend, should I find the time (I need to go to the office, and the casino is on the way back home), or next Tuesday if I can persuade a co-worker to come with me.

I'll try to sneak in a picture of a few layouts, too.
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May 23rd, 2014 at 8:19:45 AM permalink
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May 23rd, 2014 at 10:41:03 AM permalink
Mexican casino's sound scary. No reason behind it, just sounds scary. Would be like going to Jerry's nugget (I think that is correct)?
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May 23rd, 2014 at 10:53:30 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Mexican casino's sound scary. No reason behind it, just sounds scary. Would be like going to Jerry's nugget (I think that is correct)?



Well, no use hiding facts. read my article. There have been shootings and other attacks at casinos in Monterrey.

The Royal Yak, though, is fairly safe. It's big, owned by a corporation, and sits within a complex containing a horse-racing track and a convention center. To the left, right and front there are office buildings used by the Army. To the back there's an Army base. Past the office buildings there's Army housing. There's also a great deal of traffic both in the access streets and the avenues nearby

In other words, it's too dangerous a place to attack.
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May 23rd, 2014 at 12:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Mexican casino's sound scary. No reason behind it, just sounds scary. Would be like going to Jerry's nugget (I think that is correct)?



Jerry's Nugget isn't so bad. Siegel Slots is worse (I should have said "is worst" so that someone could mention in the pet peeves post.)
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May 27th, 2014 at 6:54:19 AM permalink
Today may be the day. My co-worker is curious and wants to come, or he did yesterday. Much depends on whether we leave work "early" or not. I'd like to have him along for the company, but also to see if he can take a photo of the layouts while I distract the dealers.
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May 27th, 2014 at 7:44:29 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Well, no use hiding facts. read my article. There have been shootings and other attacks at casinos in Monterrey.

The Royal Yak, though, is fairly safe. It's big, owned by a corporation, and sits within a complex containing a horse-racing track and a convention center. To the left, right and front there are office buildings used by the Army. To the back there's an Army base. Past the office buildings there's Army housing. There's also a great deal of traffic both in the access streets and the avenues nearby

In other words, it's too dangerous a place to attack.



Don't you have to worry about the Army being corrupt?

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May 27th, 2014 at 7:47:38 AM permalink
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Don't you have to worry about the Army being corrupt?



Not even a little bit. It's well known the Army is corrupt, so there's no need to worry about it.

It's also well known no soldier wants a hole in his chest. So if they are shot at, they'll shoot back.
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May 28th, 2014 at 8:04:19 AM permalink
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Today may be the day. My co-worker is curious and wants to come, or he did yesterday. Much depends on whether we leave work "early" or not.



My co-worker, call him R, still wanted to come, but we left work rather late :(

I should give up on going on a weekday. THis job is just too dammned inconvenient. I'll ask him to join me either Saturday or Sunday, and go alone if he can't or won't. Otherwise I may spend months waiting for the palnets to align and allow me a weekday visit.
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May 28th, 2014 at 11:46:05 AM permalink
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... THis job is just too dammned inconvenient.


That's pretty much why I chose unemployment about a decade ago. It's a great life if you can afford it.
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May 28th, 2014 at 1:11:12 PM permalink
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That's pretty much why I chose unemployment about a decade ago. It's a great life if you can afford it.



I wonder if we could make a Lion's Share pool for next Spring. That is, we get some WoVers together, each contributes, say $100-$200, we feed the machine and try to hit the jackpot. Winnings to be divided pro-rata according to contributions. That could go a long way to make several of us unemployed ;)

I invited R for the weekend and we're hashing out when/if he can make it. Another choice is to try tomorrow, but the inconvenient job won't turn convenient in 24 hours...
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June 2nd, 2014 at 8:39:28 PM permalink
OK, I went and tried the infamous Royal Yak again. R, my co-worker, asked me to hold on for the week. I did. We went today after leaving work at the near-miraculous hour of 7 pm. Fortunately traffic was light and the casino in on both our ways home (actually he lives only a couple of miles from my apartment).

The rules for craps are still the same: 50 pesos minimum line bet (no idea the max, but I saw someone betting as much as 1,500 pesos), 2x odds max on pass and come, ten minimum on the sucker bets. from the looks of the felt, it hasn't been changed in the past two years, either.

The exchange rate fluctuates, but 13.20 pesos per US dollar is reasonable. So that makes the line bet $3.80 and the sucker bets $0.75 (rounded for convenience).

I bought in for 2,000 pesos (about $150) at the cage (see https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/gambling-in-mexico/ for an explanation of the buy-in process). I half paid attention to the game while explaining to R what was going on, as he didn't feel comfortable playing. Funny thing, i was going for a table with only one player, as it had plenty of room. He insisted on the half-packed table, because it was closer. As he wasn't playing, he could stand behind me.

Good thing he did, maybe, because I arrived at the tail end of a hot roll. I waited for the point to be made, then sat down to see three place bets, two points and four come bets hit, before the inevitable seven-out. from what I gathered, this guy had been rolling a fair bit of time. He bet a lot more than I would ever consider and had a solid rail of 500 peso chips in front of him (call it about $37 per chip). I was playing 50 pesos on the line with 2x odds (1x for 4 and 10), placing 60 on the 6 and 8, and making as many as two come bets with either single or double odds.

The next shooter sevened out after I had everything up <sigh>. The next one did better, but it was short roll and didn't hit a point (I hit a place and two come bets though). The it was my turn. I hit three points and some come bets (I lost count trying to keep my winnings in some kind of order). Finally it was the first guy's turn again. Alas, while he hit a number of sevens and elevens on the come out, he didn't do as well as the last time. By then it was nearing on 9 pm, I was up, it was a good time to leave.

I left up 1,600 pesos, or about $120. Not bad for a low roller, who missed making a come bet twice when six hit because she was explaining the game to her friend.

Cashing out was the same as last time, except I learned there's a tax on winnings over 1,000 pesos. Just the winnings, not the cashing out. They deduct the amount from the buy-in voucher from the total. If forget exactly how much it was, but I think it was around 4.5% I recall you have a similar deduction in small lotto payments.

Actually I won a bit more, but I had to tip the dealers (they've improved a bit since last time) and I kept a few chips for souvenirs.

Speaking of chips, the colors are similar to those in Vegas and most elsewhere. there are no one peso chips. So it's:

5 = red
25 = green
100 = black
500 = purple (or perhaps pink).

I'm really much amused that I play greens with blacks behind, and this time got paid with pale purple chips :)

I tried to take a photo of the layout, but was informed no photos were allowed in the casino.

The first shooter, who'd been betting a lot, also threw money carelessly on every number (not bad as he was shooting), plus the hardways, hops, horn and everything else he could see. He lost a bundle on that, yes, but at one time he had a huge hit on a hard 6 when six was the point. Long story short, the table ran out of chips and we had to wait for more to be brought in (he had been winning a lot, too).

R wants to try again soon. I explained it isn't always like this. I mean, come on, this was one of my best sessions ever. I was never down. Not once. So I told him about loosing sessions, both here and in Vegas. I'm hoping he understands that and doesn't expect a quick score next time.

I may write up an update for my article, too, as there have been a few changes in the other games.
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June 4th, 2014 at 9:39:31 AM permalink
My co-worker R quizzed me on "what the hell happened" at the craps table <g> and about other games at the casino (after craps we took a quick look aruond and I pointed out some things).

Long story short, these are the games available at what passes for a high end casino in Mex City: Craps, Sic Bo, Roulette, slots (video reels), Bingo, and the sports book.

That's it. No video poker at all, no card games at all.

This is good, becasue I'm not tempted to play there often. It's also bad because I can't play there often ;)

I like craps. I love a good session of craps. But that's good for 90 minutes or so. Though the casino is pretty close, the traffic to get there can be hell and the trip can take 40+ minutes. It's just too much effort for craps, especially when there are no guarantees of a good session at all (naturally). I'd like it better if I could play any kind of half-decent (ie 99+%) VP, or Pai Gow Poker as well. That would make the (short) trip worthwhile.

I've heard of two other nearby casinos. One, I've been told, has electronic poker tables. I've no idea what that means. The other does boast about "card and dice games" on its web site, but 1) gives no details and 2) has branches all over the country. In particular it has branches in Tijuana, which operates under rather different laws as it is designated a "free port."

They're worth a look, if I can find some free time this weekend between electrolysis and cooking (I'm planning beef stew and mashed potatoes), or maybe next weekend. Stay tuned.
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