Bovada asked for last 4 digits of SS #?
to deposit, i have to call. they want the last digits of my social security #.
but when i created the acct, i didnt enter any of my SS info.
i'm on hold w/them. the csr said their verification dept verifies my identity but doesnt know how with just the last 4 digits of ss #.
anyone have more info about this?
Quote: EvenBobThe last four are unique to you. Many others have the same first five as you, so they identify you if they get the last four. If they have access to the right data.
Was this a joke? If so I missed that aspect of the post.
If not, then: The last four digits are only "unique to you" if you have restricted the sample to those people who have the same first five digits that you do. Otherwise, roughly one person out of every random 10,000 will have the exact same last four digits for their SSN as you do.
I know that Bob understands that, but I just can't figure out what he meant by his post.
Quote: Doc
I know that Bob understands that, but I just can't figure out what he meant by his post.
I think he didn't write what he meant. I get what he was getting at though, and until very recently, the first 3 digits would help indicate geographic point of issuance.
Quote: DocWas this a joke? If so I missed that aspect of the post.
If not, then: The last four digits are only "unique to you" if you have restricted the sample to those people who have the same first five digits that you do. Otherwise, roughly one person out of every random 10,000 will have the exact same last four digits for their SSN as you do.
I know that Bob understands that, but I just can't figure out what he meant by his post.
I'm sure he means that it is less easy to guess. For instance, my brother, sister, and I all share the same first 5 numbers, so I could easily pretend to be my brother if they ask for the first 5.
Of course, now, they issue SSNs randomly instead of issuing certain batches to specific states.
Whenever I'm asked for my mother's maiden name I never give the real one, because it is nearly impossible to spell, and have never had trouble using the alternative I made up.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI read somewhere long ago that the first three digits had to do with what county you were born in.
They are correlated to the general area you were born, but I don't think they reveal the exact county.
Quote: WizardI
They are correlated to the general area you were born, but I don't think they reveal the exact county.
Unless the next 2 numbers also encode this info, I think it's impossible for the first 3 digits to give county-level specificity - there are too many counties.
Say you'll want 10,000, then five digits at the end will be reserved for this. 4 to acommodate 10,000 items (0000 to 9,999) and one at the end as a verifying digit. The remaining five will identify your company. So you could get a number like: 750 12345 xxxxx The first two groups identify a country and a company. The last group a product made by that company in that country (or at least registered or based in that country, and made counting as the final assembly area only).
BTW, for a small clothing manufacturer 10,000 products are a few tens of thousands too few. After all, a single dress made in, say, three colors and eight sizes, alone uses up 24 unique numbers. For pricing a single number would do, but for inventory control you need all 24. Back then one seasonal line typically averaged 4 colors and eight sizes per item, and there were 30 items or so per line. So 4 x 8 x 30 = 960. That's just for Spring/Summer. Later in the year you'll have a like amount for Fall/Winter. So 4 x 8 x 30 x 2 = 1,920. That's just for one year. You'd run out of ten thousand in less than a decade.
I don't even wnat to think how many numbers a large company like Levi's uses up. Likely they have a unique number for every line. Say one for shirts, one for jeans, one for dress slacks, etc. Of course they repeat styles year after year, too,a dn that helps, but they also add new styles, and discontinue some odl ones, every year as well.
Quote: rdw4potusUnless the next 2 numbers also encode this info, I think it's impossible for the first 3 digits to give county-level specificity - there are too many counties.
From the early 70s until 2011, the first three digits is based on the ZIP code you claimed your mailing address; multiple ZIP codes are covered per group. The next two digits cover the date of issuance.
Quote: Wizard
They are correlated to the general area you were born, but I don't think they reveal the exact county.
These prefixes indicate the state in which the Social Security Number was issued.
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PREFIXES
A slightly interesting side story: Your link also translates the first two digits of US Army draftee service numbers through 1969. It correctly shows that my number starting with 53 was issued in South Carolina.Quote: ALFERALFERThese prefixes indicate the state in which the Social Security Number was issued.
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PREFIXES
While we were in basic training, we learned of a special code for numbers beginning with 67 -- that indicated a draftee who had scored very, very low on pre-induction mental tests but was drafted anyway. The low score suggested that either the person was extremely stupid or he had deliberately tried to look like an imbicile to avoid the draft, in which case he was likely to be a trouble maker. The 67 was intented to be a red warning flag that would stick with the problem draftee throughout his time in service.
Quote: DocQuote: ALFERALFERA slightly interesting side story: Your link also translates the first two digits of US Army draftee service numbers through 1969. It correctly shows that my number starting with 53 was issued in South Carolina.
That is interesting. It incorrectly lists the state associated with my first two digits, what's up with that? Also, had never heard the '67' story
Quote: chickenmanQuote: Doc
That is interesting. It incorrectly lists the state associated with my first two digits, what's up with that? Also, had never heard the '67' story
It seems you have have created your own puzzle to solve.
The list seems to be correct.
So your puzzle is to find out why your parents got you a SSN from a different state then you were born in.
Quote: DocFirst, it appears that both ALFERALFER and Chickenman have had some formatting difficulties so it looks as if they are attributing quotes to the wrong people. Second, I'm guessing that Chickenman was saying that the link mistranslated the digits of his service number, not his social security number. Since I don't know what the error was, I can only speculate that maybe his draft board, induction station, and basic training location were not in the same state, possibly leading to a discrepancy.
Nah, I am a master formatter; also a masterbat.. eh, nevermind...:-)
Must have fat-fingered the quote, but certainly need a new prescription for the bifoculs.
Yes, the link says my first two are from states that I am not [from] and/or provide a first two that is wrong for the actual state
As a sidelight, huge international personal databases like Lexis and Nexis provide the first five digits, rendering all the palaver about privacy and confidentiality utterly ridiculous.Quote: EvenBobThe last four are unique to you. Many others have the same first five as you, so they identify you if they get the last four. If they have access to the right data.
