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buzzpaff
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October 7th, 2011 at 9:18:38 PM permalink
But can we keep this one? Just for old time's sake !

The Cannot Shot measure is approximately 3 miles in length and is the distance originally used for US territorial waters.
buzzpaff
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October 7th, 2011 at 9:33:50 PM permalink
I actually know what United Inches are. In the 1960's, when tin men were at work in Baltimore, so were the aluminum storms window guys. I had just bought my first house . The tv guide in the Sunday paper advertised 6 storm windows installed for $99, any size. My row house had windows 42 inches wide and 7 feet tall. The salesman showed up and tried to upgrade me, but I stood my ground. He did not even have a sample of the $99 deal. His last words were that I would have to wait till they got enough scrap metal to make my windows.
I told my Dad who bought 6 storm windows for his huge windows too. The guy told Dad he was looking for a model home on this side of town. At a great price for sure. LOL Dad sidestepped him saying maybe when he got his tax refund. He asked the guy for the address of any model home he could look at before then. The guy said they were all over town, except this neighborhood, Dad pressed him for an address to look and was told he would probably not be able to find them. Dad said he drove a cab for 20 years and doubted that. The guy promised to call Dad back when he got back to the office. But it must have slipped his mind.
But 2 sales at $99 for big storm windows did not. That next Sunday the add said 6 storm windows for $99, up to 100 united inches.
It's the width and length added together, used to measure windows and picture frames. Few fold beat the TIN MAN. See that movie and you will know why !!!!
FleaStiff
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October 8th, 2011 at 2:15:09 AM permalink
Not clearance between two vessels. Clearance between the keel and the bottom. Its the call of the leadsman who used a leadline to sound the depth of the water. The first mark on a lead line is two fathoms so its by the mark twain. There was a mark at 5 and a mark at 7 but if the depth was estimated halfway it would be by the deep six.

The public didn't want metric... of course they didn't want prohibition either.
Flynn
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October 8th, 2011 at 4:13:56 AM permalink
No offense, but Americans are too damned proud to adapt a system that they didn't invent themselves.

A good example is the new hundred dollar bill (that was supposed to start circulating back in February). Instead of just adding a foil strip they spent millions of tax payers money to invent the "3D Security Ribbon"(which is basically a deluxe version of the foil strip). They started printing millions of notes but then realized that they were unusable because the notes came creased out of the printer. Now they are spending again million of dollars to solve the problem. If they had just adapted the foil strip this would never had happened.
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pacomartin
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October 8th, 2011 at 4:24:43 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

The USA is the only major country that has retained a non-metric system (the other two countries are Liberia and Burma).



Well they still use the statute mile in the UK (where it was introduced 420 years ago). However, the mile was roughly based on measurement that extended back to the roman empire.

I think the decision has pretty much been made that international goods (such as wine, international foods, and most machinery) would switch to metric for uniformity sake, but that purely American goods (milk, distances, weight) didn't much matter.
pacomartin
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October 8th, 2011 at 4:29:24 AM permalink
Quote: Flynn

A good example is the new hundred dollar bill (that was supposed to start circulating back in February). Instead of just adding a foil strip they spent millions of tax payers money to invent the "3D Security Ribbon"(which is basically a deluxe version of the foil strip). They started printing millions of notes but then realized that they were unusable because the notes came creased out of the printer. Now they are spending again million of dollars to solve the problem. If they had just adapted the foil strip this would never had happened.



Try hundreds of millions of dollars. If the problem only cost a few million, it wouldn't even register in the news. It is one of the worst FU that you can imagine. They are making almost no headway with the plans for the fix, and they have to be on the verge of throwing out the whole lot. The banknotes are stamped 2009, but the odds of them coming out in 2012 are slim to nothing.

By the way, where are the new 50 pound notes? They were supposed to be released by now.
Nareed
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October 8th, 2011 at 5:08:32 AM permalink
Quote: Flynn

No offense, but Americans are too damned proud to adapt a system that they didn't invent themselves.



Like the British system they use today? :)
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Nareed
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October 8th, 2011 at 5:10:14 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

The USA is the only major country that has retained a non-metric system (the other two countries are Liberia and Burma).



Yes. But other systems are also in use all over the world. In Mexico most things are metric, but screw and bolts are measured in inches, and paint comes in gallons.

America is also one of a few countries that haven't adopted soccer enthusiastically. They may be on to something.
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AZDuffman
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October 8th, 2011 at 5:31:59 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

WILL THE USA EVER GO METRIC ???



Depends on what you mean by"go metric." In popular culture it will not happen. People will think of temperature in farenheit forever in the USA. Prople will think in miles. But plenty of things in the USA are metric. Some of this has been said in the thread already, but:

Want to work opn your late-model car? Better get metric sockets.
Pop/soda is sold in 1 and 2 liter bottles OR 12oz cans, take your pick here!
Booze bottles are most often 750ml bottles.
Car engines have been quoted in liters for 30+ years now. Or is it "litres." Anyone on the board know why this is?
If you want to bid on selling items to the US Government, be prepared to do it in metrics for the most part.

I don't by the "not invented here" thing. (Though it is interesting Liberia, founded by the USA, also never converted.) I think it is an "instralled base" problem, similar to the example I gave in the Steve Jobs thread. From the housewife with her grandmother's recipie file to the factory with hundreds of millions invested in tooling, converting so much is no easy feat.

Conversion in my lifetime had mixed resiults. I remember the switch to 2-liter Pepsi and since you got a touch more in the bottle than 64oz noboody cared much and in fact they were more upset it was now made of plastic. Gasoline, OTOH, when some stations switched to selling it in liters was a disaster since nobody understood what they were paying and assumed they were being ripped off because the $5 worth they bought didn't move the guage as much. You eventually had to buymetric sockets and the big hassle there was Detroit mixed their sizes on the same cars, meaning you didn't know which size you might need. They keep trying to convert "miles to go" signs on the highway along with the mile markers but it never takes off. So many to change they never can do it all at once. To this day on the NYS Thruway there are a few "km" signs near Syracuse from when they tried it and quit.

I have a bigger question for all out there. If you were visiting earth for the first time and reading and viewing American popular culture, would you think the unit of measure was based on the "foot," "yard," "mile," or "football field?" Seems we have to have *everything* put in terms of "football field," doesn't it?
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SoulChaser
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October 8th, 2011 at 6:07:46 AM permalink
If God wanted the USA to go fully metric, Christ would have had 10 disciples at His Last Supper, not 12.

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