rxwine
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December 28th, 2021 at 12:08:24 PM permalink
I think it can be more interesting to mention what you do, than how much you make.
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moses
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December 28th, 2021 at 12:14:02 PM permalink
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The problem with that is a "not on my watch mentality" in the casino pit.

We get the evil eye, the changing of decks, the eyebrow. Shoot one guy would pump his fist in the air when I lost.

You win and feel like you should apologize. Like when they pass the collection plate and you don't contribute.

Now you have KJ running around spouting 6 figure numbers over decades.

It doesn't matter to me anymore because I can't play. But it made my job even more difficult.

And yes, pit bosses and dealers do read WOV.


Moses, I don't want to get into it with you, but I completely reject your idea that anything I did on forums affected you.

YOU play in Reno. You play single deck. Reno is renowned as the blackjack sweat capitol of the world and especially their single deck games. Reno makes El Cortez look very tolerant. There is not a single professional or even serious player that is based out of Reno or has been in 20 years. A few players may travel to Reno for a weekend of play a couple times a year, as I do (or did), but my experience this year shows even that can be extremely dangerous, as the consequences followed me back home, if you know what I mean.

Your problems with your play in Reno are about Reno and Reno being a complete sweat city that won't allow serious play for long. And that is why there are few serious players for more than a few days at a time at best.

And for players here in Vegas, I probably did them a favor. Casino folks that read the forums I was on were busy running around looking for me, so anyone not matching my description, got a free ride. :)
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Pit bosses read forums. It's their job to rid casinos of players who can beat them. Most players want to bend them over and don't last long. You're only as good as what the pit boss might be thinking. It only takes one to pass down a life sentence.

You are putting foolish notions in their head and for what. The newbie? Let them learn just like everyone else that made it. We did it without the tools available today.

But if you guys in Vegas can get backed off and then show up a few weeks later and all is forgiven and forgot? Then more power to you. I will say most of the real bad asses in the pit here come from Vegas. I did last a decade.

If you guys are actually helping each other by posting results. Hooray. Everyone should do it.
billryan
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December 28th, 2021 at 12:25:44 PM permalink
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The bottom line isn't what you make, it is what you keep. Truly wealthy people make nothing, and value their time. Someone who tells me they make ten thousand dollars a week but takes public transportation or who says they work for the Fed but is on Medicaid makes me wonder.
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If a bus pass is $130 a month, and a car is a $300 payment, plus gas, plus parking, plus maintenance, plus insurance, plus....

That seems to be more than a 50% discount for normal getting around town expenses. In some cities, public transit is probably more convenient than a car.
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You are thinking like a poor or middle-class person.

What you aren't factoring in is time. No one I know that is wealthy is going to waste the time. For example, many Met players live in Brooklyn and Manhattan. There is a subway that will take you directly to the stadium, yet Met players taking the subway are few and far between. Private cars or even car services cost more but most people think they are well worth it. With enough money, convenience trumps costs, and time trumps both of them. Not to mention safety.

It's just silly. If you have to constantly remind people how much money you have, odds are you don't have it. That's been my personal experience and nothing anyone has posted here in the last few years has changed it.
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darkoz
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December 28th, 2021 at 12:44:19 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan


The bottom line isn't what you make, it is what you keep. Truly wealthy people make nothing, and value their time. Someone who tells me they make ten thousand dollars a week but takes public transportation or who says they work for the Fed but is on Medicaid makes me wonder.
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If a bus pass is $130 a month, and a car is a $300 payment, plus gas, plus parking, plus maintenance, plus insurance, plus....

That seems to be more than a 50% discount for normal getting around town expenses. In some cities, public transit is probably more convenient than a car.
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You are thinking like a poor or middle-class person.

What you aren't factoring in is time. No one I know that is wealthy is going to waste the time. For example, many Met players live in Brooklyn and Manhattan. There is a subway that will take you directly to the stadium, yet Met players taking the subway are few and far between. Private cars or even car services cost more but most people think they are well worth it. With enough money, convenience trumps costs, and time trumps both of them. Not to mention safety.

It's just silly. If you have to constantly remind people how much money you have, odds are you don't have it. That's been my personal experience and nothing anyone has posted here in the last few years has changed it.
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Well it's good to know you are wrong even if you refuse to admit it.

It's strange you think getting around by car is automatically faster than public transportation In NYC. It's usually about an hour to go nine miles.

Late at night is of course different.

As for Mets players come on! They would not want to be surrounded by fans on the subway trying to make a game.
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December 28th, 2021 at 1:03:52 PM permalink
It doesn't matter how much you make or how much you keep.

The older you get the more you realize that your health is more valued than any amount of money.

My wife and I are both cancer survivors.

She also has had triple bypass heart surgery and I have had part of my right kidney removed.

Focus on taking care of your body and you will be much happier as you grow older.

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December 28th, 2021 at 1:10:41 PM permalink
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As for Mets players come on! They would not want to be surrounded by fans on the subway trying to make a game.



Wait the Mets have fans? LOL.

When I lived in Philadelphia, not that I could afford it so it wasn't an option, but it would be crazy to have a car. I am not comparing the center city area in Philly where I lived to NYC, by any stretch, but between parking and some people paid for parking what others paid for an apartment, and sky high insurance rates if you had a city address, you had to be wealthy to consider it.

The center city district, where all the people from the suburbs drove to everyday for the corporate office work was only from 30th street to 2nd street. River to River and probably 8 blocks north to south. But if you had a car and wanted to get out in that area on a weekday from say 8am to 5pm, good luck. You could walk anywhere faster than driving.

I was in my early to mid 20's when I lived there. Skateboard and walking was my transportation.as it was for most of my friends and people in my age group. I also had a bike. And if it was cold or rainy or something public transit was fine. Ran very regularly, every 8-10 minutes in that area.

Now when I moved to Vegas, a completely different experience. I went my first two years in Vegas still using public Transportation and Vegas public Transportaion, RTC is pretty good. They run regularly. But like Pheonix, and Denver and most western state cities, things are just spread-out way more. I mean if I wanted to go to Sunset Station or Southpoint or Green Valley Ranch that was multiple buses. If you are taking multiple buses, with the wait time and all, it is taking over an hour to get somewhere you could drive to in 15 minutes. That is when I started driving. These Western cities are too spread out and not the good fit for public transportation that east coast cities are.
darkoz
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December 28th, 2021 at 1:23:05 PM permalink
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As for Mets players come on! They would not want to be surrounded by fans on the subway trying to make a game.



Wait the Mets have fans? LOL.
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Of course the Mets have fans.

Haven't you heard the sh*t always hits the fan?
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December 28th, 2021 at 1:33:44 PM permalink
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As for Mets players come on! They would not want to be surrounded by fans on the subway trying to make a game.



Wait the Mets have fans? LOL.

When I lived in Philadelphia, not that I could afford it so it wasn't an option, but it would be crazy to have a car. I am not comparing the center city area in Philly where I lived to NYC, by any stretch, but between parking and some people paid for parking what others paid for an apartment, and sky high insurance rates if you had a city address, you had to be wealthy to consider it.

The center city district, where all the people from the suburbs drove to everyday for the corporate office work was only from 30th street to 2nd street. River to River and probably 8 blocks north to south. But if you had a car and wanted to get out in that area on a weekday from say 8am to 5pm, good luck. You could walk anywhere faster than driving.

I was in my early to mid 20's when I lived there. Skateboard and walking was my transportation.as it was for most of my friends and people in my age group. I also had a bike. And if it was cold or rainy or something public transit was fine. Ran very regularly, every 8-10 minutes in that area.

Now when I moved to Vegas, a completely different experience. I went my first two years in Vegas still using public Transportation and Vegas public Transportaion, RTC is pretty good. They run regularly. But like Pheonix, and Denver and most western state cities, things are just spread-out way more. I mean if I wanted to go to Sunset Station or Southpoint or Green Valley Ranch that was multiple buses. If you are taking multiple buses, with the wait time and all, it is taking over an hour to get somewhere you could drive to in 15 minutes. That is when I started driving. These Western cities are too spread out and not the good fit for public transportation that east coast cities are.
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I bet you missed taking public transportation when you got your own car.The endless waiting at bus stops, the smell of urine, the sort of folks one can interact with on the bus or subway, the thrill of wondering which of the various preditors is most dangerous. You can meet the finest people on a NYC subway and have incredibly stimulating conversations. Not to mention the genuine possibility you might get to see some of New York's finest in action, close-up and personal.
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December 28th, 2021 at 1:46:18 PM permalink
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I bet you missed taking public transportation when you got your own car.The endless waiting at bus stops, the smell of urine, the sort of folks one can interact with on the bus or subway, the thrill of wondering which of the various preditors is most dangerous. You can meet the finest people on a NYC subway and have incredibly stimulating conversations. Not to mention the genuine possibility you might get to see some of New York's finest in action, close-up and personal.



Well there were some things that made Las Vegas particularly challenging for public transportation for me. One that I am an AP and money. Enough said, I am sure. The other not specific to me, is a 15 minute wait in 115 heat, with or without a bus stop canopy gets old pretty damn quick.

I still don't care much for driving, but it is kind of a necessity in Vegas. My favorite time was when my partner was still alive and he played chauffer. That also was very beneficial to my hit and run, move around between casinos style of play.
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December 28th, 2021 at 1:53:53 PM permalink
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I bet you missed taking public transportation when you got your own car.The endless waiting at bus stops, the smell of urine, the sort of folks one can interact with on the bus or subway, the thrill of wondering which of the various preditors is most dangerous. You can meet the finest people on a NYC subway and have incredibly stimulating conversations. Not to mention the genuine possibility you might get to see some of New York's finest in action, close-up and personal.



Well there were some things that made Las Vegas particularly challenging for public transportation for me. One that I am an AP and money. Enough said, I am sure. The other not specific to me, is a 15 minute wait in 115 heat, with or without a bus stop canopy gets old pretty damn quick.

I still don't care much for driving, but it is kind of a necessity in Vegas. My favorite time was when my partner was still alive and he played chauffer. That also was very beneficial to my hit and run, move around between casinos style of play.
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I'm an avid reader and sleeper.

Two things I would sorely miss if I had to spend xxx hours driving.
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