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TomG
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terapinedAxelWolf
January 12th, 2021 at 12:40:25 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

In need of validation? I am not the one arguing against it to the end of the earth. I just made a common point. As usual people here cannot handle a general statement.



You made a point. Then you asked a follow-up question when someone had a different take. Then you re-stated your point. Then you re-stated it, and expanded on it. Then re-state it again and again.

I'll give you another reason it is obtuse: it generally lacks self-awareness. For example, saying others "cannot handle a general statement", when you are doing the exact same thing they are. Or consider this theory: a real-man can accept different opinions, handle the slightest bit of criticism, and not feel the need to always get the last word it.
billryan
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January 12th, 2021 at 2:44:34 PM permalink
Real men ride Harleys and let their old ladies handle their light stuff.
SOOPOO
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:06:50 PM permalink
Quote: TomG


-It comes across as though you are in desperate need of validation.
-It declares there is weakness in having variation among a group of people, which is the exact opposite of what is true.



One of my favorite posts of all time. I just didn't know how to put in words that thought.
I would never say that not knowing how to safely put someone to sleep makes him not a 'real man'.
So some can change oil. Some can be anesthesiologists. I'll bet a bunch of my colleagues can change oil. Good for them.
AxelWolf
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:19:24 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why on earth does it bother you so much that someone says a man should know how to change his oil and how car brakes work?

It annoyed me that you basically suggested guys that dont know how to, or haven't done those things are not manly men or those things would somehow make you one.

Then you basically associated those two things with being a renaissance man, that is laguable to me. You wanted to simplify the meaning of a renaissance man to support your use of the word. Simplifying it as you did would make most guys renaissance men.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:26:32 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

The James Bond character was largely based on a homosexual British intelligence officer. Not sure if that qualifies as ďa real manĒ

Aston Martin = Miata (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DRich
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:56:35 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why on earth does it bother you so much that someone says a man should know how to change his oil and how car brakes work?



Personally, I just think it is outdated. I am trying to think of an equivalent today but I am not having much luck. Probably something with the internet.
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AZDuffman
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:57:15 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It annoyed me that you basically suggested guys that dont know how to, or haven't done those things are not manly men or those things would somehow make you one.

Then you basically associated those two things with being a renaissance man, that is laguable to me. You wanted to simplify the meaning of a renaissance man to support your use of the word. Simplifying it as you did would make most guys renaissance men.



So on one hand you say most guys know how to change oil based on my definition of renaissance man but on the other get upset that most guys don't know how to change oil?

Sorry, but renaissance man would mean knowing both blue collar and white collar jobs. As I said, based on how important cars are to our life renaissance man needs to know a bit about the mechanics of cars. And being able to do the blue collar things is a requirement for "manly" where I come from. Instead of getting upset go learn how to change oil if it bothers you that you are not meeting the definition I have thrown down. Or just don't let it bother you. I could care less either way, I lead my own life.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
Keeneone
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January 12th, 2021 at 4:30:11 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Personally, I just think it is outdated. I am trying to think of an equivalent today but I am not having much luck. Probably something with the internet.


Arguably, knowing how to set up and use Bluetooth/Navigation/Apple Carplay/Android Auto/wireless hotspot may be more important than knowing how to change the oil in todays automobiles. :)
mcallister3200
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January 12th, 2021 at 4:31:51 PM permalink
If you donít know how to hang a bear bag and cold soak your meals youíre not a renaissance man.
Keeneone
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January 12th, 2021 at 4:48:27 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

If you donít know how to hang a bear bag and cold soak your meals youíre not a renaissance man.


Problem solved: Yeti cooler and Clif bars



https://www.clifbar.com/

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