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billryan
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July 18th, 2019 at 8:56:00 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Soda tax is absolutely insane.

First the government spends billions of dollars subsidizing corn farmers, which makes HFCS (and thus soda) super cheap.

Then they want to tax the hell out of it and make it super expensive because it contains the very product they subsidized to begin with.

Bizzaroworld.



We tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?
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July 18th, 2019 at 9:03:23 PM permalink
More taxes on the poor and ignorant.
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July 18th, 2019 at 9:03:50 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

We tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?



We already tax soda like everything else. Sales tax.

There is a special pornography tax? Im unaware of that
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July 18th, 2019 at 9:11:37 PM permalink
If you're going to have taxes on anything, would you rather have taxes on investment, savings, earnings or things like soda pop?

It probably makes too much sense, and will never happen.

(and no I don't mean regular taxes, taxes like cigs and alcohol)
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July 19th, 2019 at 2:37:08 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

You did (vote for a tramp). Why are you being all condescending and rude about this? Or is it news to you that your orange whore slept with #2 while married to#1, slept with #3 while married to #2, slept with at least 2 porn queens while #3 was pregnant?



We are not talking about who I voted for. I am asking a liberal who seems to be upset about Trump's personal life if he will still vote for a woman who tramped her way into her government life. Said liberal seems to have no problem with her sleeping around, but does with Trump.


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And no, for the record, being Mayor Willie's girlfriend for a time does not equal sleeping your way to the top. It's just a nasty deflection from how much more intelligent and experienced she is in goverment and management than Trump.



It sure was sleeping her way in the door. She may have "experience in government" that Trump, big deal. She has nowhere near his management experience. 99% of the population does not have his management experience. In fact, best I can see, she has spent her life in the public sector, not a great thing for management experience. She has never once been responsible for a P&L statement. I'd rather someone who has been in the real world.
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July 19th, 2019 at 2:38:15 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

We tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?



We have sales tax on it. The rest is just a money grab for no good reason.

Why do you want to be told how to live so bad?
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July 19th, 2019 at 3:11:30 AM permalink
Trump campaign is encouraging its steeple to buy patriotic plastic straws for a buck fifty a pop to fight the spread of liberal backed paper straws. Of course, one could walk into a bazillion places, use the buck fifty for a.soda and grab a dozen or so straws , but trump didn't get where he is by overestimating his zealots intellect.
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July 19th, 2019 at 3:33:10 AM permalink
Bernie Sanders’ campaign workers complaining, fleeing over ‘poverty wages’: report

As usual, one set of rules for themselves, another for the rest of us. And the lemmings joined a union, so they get to pay what, $10+ a week in dues!

I so needed a laugh to start my Friday!
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July 19th, 2019 at 3:39:40 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

Bloomberg originally wanted to ban the use of foodstamps on soda. Buy switching them over to tap water (actually drinkable in NYC, unlike Las Vegas), it would have reduced the burden on the rest of us to support them. National level politics stopped that from happening. He then wanted to tax soda, which would have made soda drinkers subsidize non-soda drinkers, which would have been something anyone in the city could have easily opted in to and benefited from -- all they would have to do is not drink soda. State level politics stopped him from doing that. Only after his two great ideas were stopped by outside politicians, did he offer his proposal to ban only the large sizes. And everyone flipped their lid

Soda ban was brought up in 2012, here are two articles from 2010 showing what Bloomberg really wanted: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/nyregion/08soda.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/nyregion/07stamps.html



As mayor, I do not see where he could force that kind of policy change on a federal program. I agree with switching it at the federal level. Make a simple test. Foods of little nutritional value would be excluded. All it would take is put a little symbol on a standard place on the label, say a "S" in a circle for approved (S=SNAP) and a "NS" (NON-SNAP). It can be put in the scanner as such, as has been done already for 30+ years (when I worked grocery.)

You had better believe people flipped their lid. It is massive government overreach. It is not the governments place to tell me how much flipping soda I can drink, or to tax me extra on it. FWIW, I do not understand what "soda drinkers subsidize non-soda drinkers" is supposed to even mean.

Guy has a subway system falling apart, hundreds of other problems, and he worries about what people are drinking?
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July 19th, 2019 at 3:43:29 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

We are not talking about who I voted for. I am asking a liberal who seems to be upset about Trump's personal life if he will still vote for a woman who tramped her way into her government life. Said liberal seems to have no problem with her sleeping around, but does with Trump.




It sure was sleeping her way in the door. She may have "experience in government" that Trump, big deal. She has nowhere near his management experience. 99% of the population does not have his management experience. In fact, best I can see, she has spent her life in the public sector, not a great thing for management experience. She has never once been responsible for a P&L statement. I'd rather someone who has been in the real world.




I'm in an odd situation. I'm on board with about half of the Trump policies, but I can't for the life of me understand why people voted for him.

What good is management experience if huge chunks of them involve major bankruptcies wherein your shareholders and employees got screwed? The Trumpster's "Art of the Deal" involves, in real life, generating 3500 lawsuits in 30 years, most of which involve either suing subcontractors for "substandard work" or flat out not paying subcontractors and forcing the smaller businesses to try to sue him. And, since this is a gambling site, does anyone know why Trump couldn't get a gaming license in Nevada?

Near as I can tell, Trump's major achievements are inheriting his father's money and helming a self-promoting reality show a la Paris Hilton.

As for the "Trump as villain" I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm not focused on his wandering eye. That's the least of it. It's the grade school bully persona and being ultra loose with facts, plus the weird obsession with holding self-promoting rallies for no compelling reason. The question is, since this is the behavior and persona you're proselytizing if you're a Trump supporter, how are you going to feel when your neighbors behave like Trump? Or your sons and daughters? Or grade school teachers? Do you really want a world populated with people wielding Trump personalities? Because that is what you are creating and promoting. It's on you.

I don't really care, myself. A world full of chubby loudmouth bullies with no evident expertise doesn't particularly frighten me. I don't have any children, so the absurdity is entertaining, not scary. I'm not gonna live forever, so I don't care about consequences much. Some people say that "chubby loudmouth bullies" describes the United States, anyway. But if you're a Bible toting evangelical, the idea that we're promoting Trump style as a way to behave has gotta at least give you pause.
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