Quote: rxwineBreakfast is 10 eggs and two to three pounds of bacon. Between meals, I eat lots of candy. In the morning, it will be several 3 Musketeers and/or Snickers bars; I need them for energy. Lunch, at 1 or 2 PM, is a double meal of a Polish pork chop, sauerkraut and potatoes. An hour later, I work out, then take lots of supplements: magnesium, creatine, amino acids, all that stuff, and more chocolate. Dinner is whatever meat I can grab—steaks, pork chops, bacon—plus more sauerkraut and potatoes. At 9 or 10 PM, I work out again. Afterward, I have a protein shake and more chocolate. At 3 or 4 AM, I wake up and have more chocolate, then go back to sleep until morning.
Strongman diet.
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One of my housemates in college was a super-heavyweight wrestler. As he didn't worry about making weight, he'd eat anything and everything. He'd have a dozen eggs for breakfast, or have a package of hot dogs( no bread) for lunch. We were at Ponderosa once, and he ordered five steaks. He'd buy four whoppers, throw away most of the buns and make one giant burger. He wrestled at 275ish and was pretty solid.
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Naw EB, that's the diet of a guy who holds numerous strongman world records.
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I keep forgetting that people who work out and lift weights are totally immune to all the maladies that plague everybody else from a bad diet. There are people who actually believe that nonsense.
Quote: billryanQuote: rxwineBreakfast is 10 eggs and two to three pounds of bacon. Between meals, I eat lots of candy. In the morning, it will be several 3 Musketeers and/or Snickers bars; I need them for energy. Lunch, at 1 or 2 PM, is a double meal of a Polish pork chop, sauerkraut and potatoes. An hour later, I work out, then take lots of supplements: magnesium, creatine, amino acids, all that stuff, and more chocolate. Dinner is whatever meat I can grab—steaks, pork chops, bacon—plus more sauerkraut and potatoes. At 9 or 10 PM, I work out again. Afterward, I have a protein shake and more chocolate. At 3 or 4 AM, I wake up and have more chocolate, then go back to sleep until morning.
Strongman diet.
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One of my housemates in college was a super-heavyweight wrestler. As he didn't worry about making weight, he'd eat anything and everything. He'd have a dozen eggs for breakfast, or have a package of hot dogs( no bread) for lunch. We were at Ponderosa once, and he ordered five steaks. He'd buy four whoppers, throw away most of the buns and make one giant burger. He wrestled at 275ish and was pretty solid.
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The key to the paragraph that you wrote is that you're in college. People in college are so young they can eat any damn thing they want with no apparent consequences. Let's see him eat a diet like that when he's 58. If he lives to 58.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
Quote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
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Your guarantee is worth as much as your other posts.
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Naw EB, that's the diet of a guy who holds numerous strongman world records.
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I keep forgetting that people who work out and lift weights are totally immune to all the maladies that plague everybody else from a bad diet. There are people who actually believe that nonsense.
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A friend of mine in college was a heavyweight wrestler for the U. of Iowa. He went on to be nationally known in bodybuilding competitions. He died at age 54 of an embolism.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
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You seem to think that all people want to live as long as possible.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobQuote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
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You seem to think that all people want to live as long as possible.
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Because that's been my experience. When people are younger they talk a big game but the older they get and the closer they get to their final days the more they want to keep living to the point where some of them are begging to live towards the end. Everybody's courageous when they're not facing any imminent danger. I knew a guy years ago with that attitude who smoked four packs of cigarettes a day and worked with toxic chemicals with no mask and he used to say all the time that he didn't care about life and death and none of it mattered. Till he got lung cancer then all of a sudden he panicked and became a freaking idiot trying to bargain with God or whoever to let him live a few more years. He died six months later at age 57.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBobQuote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
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You seem to think that all people want to live as long as possible.
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Because that's been my experience. When people are younger they talk a big game but the older they get and the closer they get to their final days the more they want to keep living to the point where some of them are begging to live towards the end. Everybody's courageous when they're not facing any imminent danger. I knew a guy years ago with that attitude who smoked four packs of cigarettes a day and worked with toxic chemicals with no mask and he used to say all the time that he didn't care about life and death and none of it mattered. Till he got lung cancer then all of a sudden he panicked and became a freaking idiot trying to bargain with God or whoever to let him live a few more years. He died six months later at age 57.
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The wife and I both have the flu. The way I am feeling I wouldn't mind if the end was near.
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The wife and I both have the flu. The way I am feeling I wouldn't mind if the end was near.
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My wife has it also and says it's the sickest she's ever been in her life. Every day I've had to talk her out of somebody taking her to the emergency room at the hospital. She's better today but earlier this week she thought she was going to die it was so bad. If you take your temperature and keep track of your blood oxygen with one of those meters you put on your finger you can pretty much gauge how sick you are. She's never had a temperature over 100 and her blood oxygen has always been 99%. No need to go to the hospital.

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The wife and I both have the flu. The way I am feeling I wouldn't mind if the end was near.
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My wife has it also and says it's the sickest she's ever been in her life. Every day I've had to talk her out of somebody taking her to the emergency room at the hospital. She's better today but earlier this week she thought she was going to die it was so bad. If you take your temperature and keep track of your blood oxygen with one of those meters you put on your finger you can pretty much gauge how sick you are. She's never had a temperature over 100 and her blood oxygen has always been 99%. No need to go to the hospital.
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I do have a PulseOx and just about every other commercial medical device. I even keep this on my nightstand for "emergencies".

Quote: EvenBobI would think Drich would be an expert at this.
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One of the farmers markets near the house had a stall that sold the 1927 hole style in either potato or apple cider donuts.
Excellent with a cup of black coffee.
My recollection is that they were a denser crumb than the the smaller holed examples, although I couldn't say if it's due to less leavening agent, less rise time, or "other". I know a lot of the more modern donuts seem to be baked, rather than deep fried, and that seems a bit of a shame.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobI would think Drich would be an expert at this.
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One of the farmers markets near the house had a stall that sold the 1927 hole style in either potato or apple cider donuts.
Excellent with a cup of black coffee.
My recollection is that they were a denser crumb than the the smaller holed examples, although I couldn't say if it's due to less leavening agent, less rise time, or "other". I know a lot of the more modern donuts seem to be baked, rather than deep fried, and that seems a bit of a shame.
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Why am I not shocked that you are the forums donut expert.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBobQuote: billryanHe's now sixty seven or so, and was in incredible shape when we last met in 2021.
He came from a small town on the peninsula above Syracuse and always said college would get him out of there. He ended up as the football coach at his old high school.
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I guarantee he didn't continue eating that diet and lived to be 67 it would have killed him long before that
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You seem to think that all people want to live as long as possible.
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Because that's been my experience. When people are younger they talk a big game but the older they get and the closer they get to their final days the more they want to keep living to the point where some of them are begging to live towards the end. Everybody's courageous when they're not facing any imminent danger. I knew a guy years ago with that attitude who smoked four packs of cigarettes a day and worked with toxic chemicals with no mask and he used to say all the time that he didn't care about life and death and none of it mattered. Till he got lung cancer then all of a sudden he panicked and became a freaking idiot trying to bargain with God or whoever to let him live a few more years. He died six months later at age 57.
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The wife and I both have the flu. The way I am feeling I wouldn't mind if the end was near.
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Had a flu shot about 2 weeks ago. I have noticed a lot more people coughing. One kid in the restaurant I was at sounded like he had Whooping cough, which I haven’t heard for years.

Tonight's culinary experience is Cheeseburger Hamburger Helper. Obviously, the wife is home as I don't make elaborate meals. Also, the garlic bread is a hint that she is home because I never make anything other than the main dish.
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Tonight's culinary experience is Cheeseburger Hamburger Helper. Obviously, the wife is home as I don't make elaborate meals. Also, the garlic bread is a hint that she is home because I never make anything other than the main dish.
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Two cups of cheeseburger Hamburger Helper provides almost 2/3 of the daily allowed intake of sodium in your diet. That's incredible. Salt is the third ingredient, oh my dear God. Two cups is 50 g of carbohydrate. You could not pick a worse food to eat if you tried. Congratulations.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobI would think Drich would be an expert at this.
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One of the farmers markets near the house had a stall that sold the 1927 hole style in either potato or apple cider donuts.
Excellent with a cup of black coffee.
My recollection is that they were a denser crumb than the the smaller holed examples, although I couldn't say if it's due to less leavening agent, less rise time, or "other". I know a lot of the more modern donuts seem to be baked, rather than deep fried, and that seems a bit of a shame.
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Why am I not shocked that you are the forums donut expert.
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I'm shocked. I don't think I've had a donut since at least the equinox, and I don't think I've had a good donut in years.
I don't count baking muffin batter in Ashly's "babycakes" "donut" machine. It may amuse the kids with the shape, but it's not the right texture at all.
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Two cups of cheeseburger Hamburger Helper provides almost 2/3 of the daily allowed intake of sodium in your diet. That's incredible. Salt is the third ingredient, oh my dear God. Two cups is 50 g of carbohydrate. You could not pick a worse food to eat if you tried. Congratulations.
I actually add salt and pepper before eating it. At the same time, I generally only eat one meal a day so I may be under my limits.
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I'm shocked. I don't think I've had a donut since at least the equinox, and I don't think I've had a good donut in years.
I don't count baking muffin batter in Ashly's "babycakes" "donut" machine. It may amuse the kids with the shape, but it's not the right texture at all.
I probably have one donut every couple of years. I do love me a hot Krispy Kreme donut.
Im seeing old friends this year. Being vain.
Quote: EvenBobYou could not pick a worse food to eat if you tried. Congratulations.
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Country fried steak and eggs, hashbrowns, wheat toast.
The country fried steak is essentially a half pound of fatty, well salted ground beef, dipped in (salted) batter, deep fried, and slathered in gravy (salted fat). The eggs were dripping with the oil they were cooked in. Hash browns are always cooked in "too much oil", and the toast was definitely drenched in too much butter.
I added a few splashes of the house steak sauce, which is very reminiscent of HP fruity brown sauce.
The black coffee might be healthy.
Quote: billryanYou need some veggies. Add some ketchup and maybe a slice of pickle. The plate needs more color.
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I looked at a bag of lettuce in the fridge this morning.
Does that count?
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobYou could not pick a worse food to eat if you tried. Congratulations.
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Country fried steak and eggs, hashbrowns, wheat toast.
The country fried steak is essentially a half pound of fatty, well salted ground beef, dipped in (salted) batter, deep fried, and slathered in gravy (salted fat). The eggs were dripping with the oil they were cooked in. Hash browns are always cooked in "too much oil", and the toast was definitely drenched in too much butter.
I added a few splashes of the house steak sauce, which is very reminiscent of HP fruity brown sauce.
The black coffee might be healthy.
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What you describe are the ingredients in most snack food, fat salt carbohydrate. Our bodies seem to crave those kind of things because we evolved as feast or famine creatures. It was always one of the other. Either we were starving to death or there was so much food we couldn't eat it all so we ate as much as we could because we knew that famine was right around the corner. Now that we have food in abundance we still crave that stuff and you have to stop eating it entirely because you don't need to anymore. But the food industry knows about our cravings and it caters to them.
Quote: billryanYou need some veggies. Add some ketchup and maybe a slice of pickle. The plate needs more color.
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The only vegetables that I have eaten in the last 40 years are potato's and corn. The two veggies that are bad for you.

Quote: DRichThe only vegetables that I have eaten in the last 40 years are potato's and corn. The two veggies that are bad for you.
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This reminds me of Mickey Rourke's saying that as a struggling actor in NYC he ate only Hershey bars and potatoes. He would buy the bags of potatoes, cut and fry them into fries and shoplift the candy bars. He said he lost lots of weight started to look like hell but "knew nothing about nutrition or anything like that." Revised his diet eventually.
Somehow though, you're surviving.
As far as corn, slaves in the 19th century who were eating primarily untreated corn developed niacin deficiency and started talking nonsense. You must be getting enough niacin elsewhere though as your posts are quite lucid.
When I had Osaca as my health insurance, they had an app that paid you $25 if you averaged 5,000 steps a day over a month. I quickly learned that thirty seconds of violent shaking measured 800 or more steps.

Pound and a half flank steak, marinated for a few hours in a mixture of duck sauce, teriyaki sauce, diet coke, and a bunch of herbs and spices. I rolled the steak around two oranges and seared it all around in a frying pan before cooking it for an hour at 350 degrees.
It's cooking as we speak and will be served with min-cobs of corn, pumpernickel bread, and apple/cinnamon butter.
I figure it will make two meals, and then have some slices with a salad tomorrow.
Quote: billryanA first-time recipe/experiment.
Pound and a half flank steak, marinated for a few hours in a mixture of duck sauce, teriyaki sauce, diet coke, and a bunch of herbs and spices. I rolled the steak around two oranges and seared it all around in a frying pan before cooking it for an hour at 350 degrees.
It's cooking as we speak and will be served with min-cobs of corn, pumpernickel bread, and apple/cinnamon butter.
I figure it will make two meals, and then have some slices with a salad tomorrow.
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With no picture I didn't even make it to the second sentence. Something about eating oatmeal without dentures or something, I wasn't sure.
Quote: billryanA first-time recipe/experiment.
Pound and a half flank steak, marinated for a few hours in a mixture of duck sauce, teriyaki sauce, diet coke, and a bunch of herbs and spices. I rolled the steak around two oranges and seared it all around in a frying pan before cooking it for an hour at 350 degrees.
It's cooking as we speak and will be served with min-cobs of corn, pumpernickel bread, and apple/cinnamon butter.
I figure it will make two meals, and then have some slices with a salad tomorrow.
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The steak looked great, and was incredibly tender but had an odd taste. It must have been the oranges, but the taste was somehow familiar. The warm pumpernickel bread with the TR apple butter was the high point of the meal.
About a buck and a half all in, thanks to some app-based discounts.
Quote: DRichI am still eating pot roast for the third day in a row. Hopefully today will finish it off.
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How big was it? I'm not much of a fan of Potroast but had family members who loved it.
Quote: DieterA quarter pounder (with cheese) and a diet coke.
About a buck and a half all in, thanks to some app-based discounts.
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We all thank you for not posting a picture.
Quote: billryanSpinach and artichoke flatbread pizza. 430 calories of deliciousness.
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Because you failed as usual to post a picture I had to use my imagination as to what it really looked like.

Quote: billryanQuote: DRichI am still eating pot roast for the third day in a row. Hopefully today will finish it off.
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How big was it? I'm not much of a fan of Potroast but had family members who loved it.
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I really don't know as the wife cooked it but I did see it in the refrigerator before cooking and I would guess maybe between 2 and 3 pounds but I am not sure. Today is the third day in a row for both of us but honestly we have not been eating a lot as we both have the flu. I would guess the first day I ate about three ounces and yesterday probably closer to six ounces.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanSpinach and artichoke flatbread pizza. 430 calories of deliciousness.
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Because you failed as usual to post a picture I had to use my imagination as to what it really looked like.
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That doesn't look like spinach & artichoke.
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Because you failed as usual to post a picture I had to use my imagination as to what it really looked like.
I would gladly eat that any day of the week.
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanQuote: DRichI am still eating pot roast for the third day in a row. Hopefully today will finish it off.
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How big was it? I'm not much of a fan of Potroast but had family members who loved it.
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I really don't know as the wife cooked it but I did see it in the refrigerator before cooking and I would guess maybe between 2 and 3 pounds but I am not sure. Today is the third day in a row for both of us but honestly we have not been eating a lot as we both have the flu. I would guess the first day I ate about three ounces and yesterday probably closer to six ounces.
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My wife thought she had the flu but it turned out to be covid. This is the 8th day and she is still really sick.
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Because you failed as usual to post a picture I had to use my imagination as to what it really looked like.
I would gladly eat that any day of the week.
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Have you thought about seeking professional help? Do they have food therapists?
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My wife thought she had the flu but it turned out to be covid. This is the 8th day and she is still really sick.
Awful. I am sorry to hear that and wish you and her the best. Has she been hospitalized yet? If not getting on a respirator is probably the best course of action.
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Have you thought about seeking professional help? Do they have food therapists?
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They use to, but they may have all died from eating only "healthy" food. As the old saying goes, "A Twinkie a day keeps the doctor away."
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Have you thought about seeking professional help? Do they have food therapists?
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They use to, but they may have all died from eating only "healthy" food. As the old saying goes, "A Twinkie a day keeps the doctor away."
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My steady diet of preservatives does seem to have kept me from growing mold.
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My wife thought she had the flu but it turned out to be covid. This is the 8th day and she is still really sick.
Awful. I am sorry to hear that and wish you and her the best. Has she been hospitalized yet? If not getting on a respirator is probably the best course of action.
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Yeah they don't do that anymore. They finally discovered that respirators is what killed most of the people with covid in the hospitals. Seriously, look it up. You have to be really really sick before they hospitalized you with covid. They sent her home with medication and told her to lock herself in her apartment for 10 days.