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April 10th, 2019 at 11:46:13 AM permalink
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Wow! It’s almost like the cold numbers are just as likely to show up as the hot numbers. Who’d a thunk it? 🤦‍♂️



No, they are not. Only a FEW times the cold number showed up. A FEW times!
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April 10th, 2019 at 12:40:26 PM permalink
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No, they are not. Only a FEW times the cold number showed up. A FEW times!

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April 10th, 2019 at 1:39:23 PM permalink
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April 10th, 2019 at 1:40:31 PM permalink
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Wow! It’s almost like the cold numbers are just as likely to show up as the hot numbers. Who’d a thunk it? 🤦‍♂️



Loose lips .............
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April 10th, 2019 at 2:15:02 PM permalink
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No, I actually made a wise comment. Picking "Cold" numbers are just a bad idea in general. The cold number showed up only like 2 times in all my Roulette playing.
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April 10th, 2019 at 2:19:14 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

No, I actually made a wise comment. Picking "Cold" numbers are just a bad idea in general. The cold number showed up only like 2 times in all my Roulette playing.



Oh, come on, Nathan. It's as if you have never read this site. That's Gambler's Fallacy.

If the casino thought tracking the numbers would do you any good, they wouldn't put the tote board up there. Also true for baccarat. In both games, it's actually a trap designed to get you thinking you're seeing a pattern that can be predicted, and stay longer playing.

Each spin is an unrelated, independent event (on a fair/balanced wheel)

If it amuses you to bet streaks or hot or cold numbers, fine. But stop trying to kid the rest of us that it has any basis in math or winning.
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April 10th, 2019 at 2:30:16 PM permalink
If cold numbers show up then they're not cold any more, so I can weirdly understand. Hello rubber room.
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April 10th, 2019 at 3:01:55 PM permalink
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No, I actually made a wise comment. Picking "Cold" numbers are just a bad idea in general. The cold number showed up only like 2 times in all my Roulette playing.


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April 10th, 2019 at 3:03:48 PM permalink
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April 10th, 2019 at 6:29:45 PM permalink
I think also playing Roulette numbers that already came up is wise. :)
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April 10th, 2019 at 6:36:15 PM permalink
About as wise as playing, well any number really smh.
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April 10th, 2019 at 6:45:04 PM permalink
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About as wise as playing, well any number really smh.



I'll admit there have been a few times when I completely busted playing only numbers that already hit, and adding 00 and 0 for fun. It's OFTEN wise to play numbers that already came up, but SOMETIMES none of them will. ;)
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April 10th, 2019 at 6:57:35 PM permalink
NO! IT IS NEVER WISE TO PLAY ANY NUMBER ON A NORMAL ROULETTE WHEEL OVER ANY OTHER NUMBER. EVERY NUMBER HAS THE SAME ODDS!
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April 10th, 2019 at 7:02:23 PM permalink
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NO! IT IS NEVER WISE TO PLAY ANY NUMBER ON A NORMAL ROULETTE WHEEL OVER ANY OTHER NUMBER. EVERY NUMBER HAS THE SAME ODDS!



The Roulette tips beg to differ. They put up DIFFERENT odds. ;)
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April 10th, 2019 at 7:05:48 PM permalink
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NO! IT IS NEVER WISE TO PLAY ANY NUMBER ON A NORMAL ROULETTE WHEEL OVER ANY OTHER NUMBER. EVERY NUMBER HAS THE SAME ODDS!


How do you come up with that conclusion when some numbers come up more often within the last 20-30 spins than other numbers, eh? Check mate!
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April 10th, 2019 at 7:12:42 PM permalink
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I think also playing Roulette numbers that already came up is wise. :)



At least it is better than playing the lotto. (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง
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April 10th, 2019 at 7:43:00 PM permalink
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How do you come up with that conclusion when some numbers come up more often within the last 20-30 spins than other numbers, eh? Check mate!



:) But seriously, this guy did a Roulette project on Youtube where he used a device that made the ball stop ONLY on red numbers IIRC. He did this like 30 times. He said something like,"If I could pull this Project off, what is to stop Casinos from pulling this same stunt?" A commenter said something like,"Casinos would lose money because Players would see that only red numbers are coming up and put a bunch of money on every red number, plus red itself and rake in big bucks."
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 11th, 2019 at 1:08:07 AM permalink
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:) But seriously, this guy did a Roulette project on Youtube where he used a device that made the ball stop ONLY on red numbers IIRC. He did this like 30 times. He said something like,"If I could pull this Project off, what is to stop Casinos from pulling this same stunt?" A commenter said something like,"Casinos would lose money because Players would see that only red numbers are coming up and put a bunch of money on every red number, plus red itself and rake in big bucks."



To supplement my own post, the Casinos would still make a lot of money, right, because there would be many Players putting a lot of money on BLACK numbers and BLACK itself instead, thinking there are 19 winning Red Numbers, surely a Black number should be due. So, they put $25 on each Black number and $50 on Black itself, or $500 a spin.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 11th, 2019 at 1:29:13 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

NO! IT IS NEVER WISE TO PLAY ANY NUMBER ON A NORMAL ROULETTE WHEEL

There. I fixed it for you.
SMH.
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April 11th, 2019 at 1:53:13 AM permalink
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I'm sure Nathan has a lot of perks, things you don't get such as:



Gender neutral meetings



Hey, I only outright lied about my Gender ONCE! I IMPLIED(IMPLIED, not outright SAID) I was a man with my Nathan name(In an older Signature, I did point out I was a woman who happened to love the name Nathaniel and chose Nathan as a nickname of Nathaniel) and by flirting with a female poster. So, I straight up said I was a man only ONCE, IMPLIED it other times).
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 16th, 2019 at 4:18:43 AM permalink
I thought Nathan dropped her phone in the toilet.
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April 16th, 2019 at 12:19:00 PM permalink
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NO! IT IS NEVER WISE TO PLAY ANY NUMBER ON A NORMAL ROULETTE WHEEL OVER ANY OTHER NUMBER. EVERY NUMBER HAS THE SAME ODDS!



I disagree. It is better to play a number that has been coming up a lot because maybe the wheel is biased. I would definitely do that over playing a number that has not been coming up.
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April 16th, 2019 at 12:30:28 PM permalink
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I disagree. It is better to play a number that has been coming up a lot because maybe the wheel is biased. I would definitely do that over playing a number that has not been coming up.



Isn't it better to play the numbers that are going to hit rather than the numbers that already hit?
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April 24th, 2019 at 1:31:53 AM permalink
I'm back after roughly a two week unexpected "Vacation," :D . But to be completely serious, the post that sent me on this roughly two week unexpected "Vacation," was made with good intentions. A Newbie asked something about a $15,000 Progressive that LOOKED like it was about $400 away before hitting. I said something like,"You would have to play $4,000-$8,000 coin in before you get that $15,000. It's not a mere $400 away. "

I was thanked by the Newbie,(He later mentioned he thought I was being very naively optomistic but didn't want to ruffle any feathers with longer term Members as a Newbie, not a bad mindset) but someone else asked me like two days later how I got that figure and I mentioned that multiple posters said they played $4,000-$8,000 before hitting the Progressive Jackpot. I got dragged so hard with criticisms like,"Uh, if you only play $4,000-8,000 coin in and win a $15,000 Progressive, that's a REALLY good run and you'd be on a hot streak! What were you thinking with that advice?" "You really should have said,"$100,000 coin in" instead of $4,000-$8,000 coin in and then you would have been giving good advice." I was then sentenced to an unexpected two week suspension for giving bad advice to a Newbie that I just got off of.

I wonder if adding an extra 0 to both numbers would have lessened the impact, saying $40,000-$80,000 coin in instead of $4,000-$8,000. In hindsight, the Posters who claimed they played $4,000-$8,000 may have been talking about Progressives that looked like they were "Only $20," away. In hindsight, there have been posts where posters have said something like "$5 coin in moves the meter one penny,"so by my calculations, that's like $200,000-$400,000 coin in to get that $15,000 Jackpot." If I had written $200,000-$400,000, there'd be no way I would have gotten criticism and a two week suspension.
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In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 24th, 2019 at 2:26:10 AM permalink
From my own experience with the must-hits anecdotally at least it took about a $4,000 - 8,000 LOSS to get the must-hit with about $40-80,000 coin-in

Which I suppose is pretty close to the 10% mark or 90% return thats expected.

Maybe you got those differences confused when reading about it on here
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April 24th, 2019 at 4:54:47 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

From my own experience with the must-hits anecdotally at least it took about a $4,000 - 8,000 LOSS to get the must-hit with about $40-80,000 coin-in

Which I suppose is pretty close to the 10% mark or 90% return thats expected.

Maybe you got those differences confused when reading about it on here



Thank you Darkoz. Maybe I wouldn't have gotten suspended if I wrote it like you just did.
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April 24th, 2019 at 4:57:55 AM permalink
Welcome back!
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April 24th, 2019 at 5:32:25 AM permalink
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I thought Nathan dropped her phone in the toilet.



Kind of similar. My phone battery basically stopped charging, and would only charge for like 3 seconds with me having to hold the charging cord VERY tight at a certain angle. Yeah, that battery was TOAST. My God. I ended up having to beg passengers on the bus for their phones. Embarassing. 😣Even the bus driver was like,"Maa'm, please stop begging passengers for phones. Embarrassing.😣 Eventually, I got a refurbished old phone from my Mom, which is what I am using now! 😆
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 24th, 2019 at 5:41:58 AM permalink
Welcome back, Nathan! Any interesting stuff happen while you were away?
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April 24th, 2019 at 5:54:01 AM permalink
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Welcome back, Nathan! Any interesting stuff happen while you were away?



Not really, although TWO Lottery Predictions I predicted on a Sister Website came true within TWO weeks! :D Also, a certain infamous old face on here (face with a lower capital letter, not a high capital letter, 😉 suddenly popped up on said Sister Website after THREE years! 😉
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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April 24th, 2019 at 8:10:44 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I'm back after roughly a two week unexpected "Vacation," :D . But to be completely serious, the post that sent me on this roughly two week unexpected "Vacation," was made with good intentions. A Newbie asked something about a $15,000 Progressive that LOOKED like it was about $400 away before hitting. I said something like,"You would have to play $4,000-$8,000 coin in before you get that $15,000. It's not a mere $400 away. "

I was thanked by the Newbie,(He later mentioned he thought I was being very naively optomistic but didn't want to ruffle any feathers with longer term Members as a Newbie, not a bad mindset) but someone else asked me like two days later how I got that figure and I mentioned that multiple posters said they played $4,000-$8,000 before hitting the Progressive Jackpot. I got dragged so hard with criticisms like,"Uh, if you only play $4,000-8,000 coin in and win a $15,000 Progressive, that's a REALLY good run and you'd be on a hot streak! What were you thinking with that advice?" "You really should have said,"$100,000 coin in" instead of $4,000-$8,000 coin in and then you would have been giving good advice." I was then sentenced to an unexpected two week suspension for giving bad advice to a Newbie that I just got off of.

I wonder if adding an extra 0 to both numbers would have lessened the impact, saying $40,000-$80,000 coin in instead of $4,000-$8,000. In hindsight, the Posters who claimed they played $4,000-$8,000 may have been talking about Progressives that looked like they were "Only $20," away. In hindsight, there have been posts where posters have said something like "$5 coin in moves the meter one penny,"so by my calculations, that's like $200,000-$400,000 coin in to get that $15,000 Jackpot." If I had written $200,000-$400,000, there'd be no way I would have gotten criticism and a two week suspension.



No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.
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April 24th, 2019 at 8:30:40 AM permalink
Fails at your jobs? 😂

I impulsively asked a young woman in her late 20's that I was ringing up a long time ago if the older Gentleman (He looked,about 75) with her was her Grandfather. She coldly replied,"That's none of your business," in a tone that clearly said,"I'm so reporting your butt to your Manager for asking me a personal question." I immidiately apologized and admitted that I shouldn't have asked her that question, in order to prevent ber reporting me.. She nodded, but still looked pissed off. I had a deep feeling that she was going to report me. The next day, my ASSISTANT Manager was giving me a weird look. I figured something bad was going on. I asked her what was going on, and she told me that a Customer reported me for asking her if the older Gentleman with her was her Grandfather. I had a deep feeling I would be reported, remember I tried to prevent that by apologizing and admitting I shouldn't have done it. Didn't work. I told my Manager that I was just trying to make small talk and meant it as an innocent question.

My Manager said something like,"I get that you meant it as innocent, and I know you have a good hearted personality, but not everyone will like personal chit chat when they are trying to buy their groceries. Try to focus on just saying,"Hi, bye,"Thank you, you're welcome and talking about job related professional aspects." It was way better that she reported me to my ASSISTANT Manager and not my STORE Manager as my Store Manager back then was a lot stricter than my Assistant Manager.
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April 24th, 2019 at 8:33:46 AM permalink
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No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:33:57 AM permalink
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No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:44:48 AM permalink
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Fails at your jobs? 😂

I impulsively asked a young woman in her late 20's that I was ringing up a long time ago if the older Gentleman (He looked,about 75) with her was her Grandfather. She coldly replied,"That's none of your business," in a tone that clearly said,"I'm so reporting your butt to your Manager for asking me a personal question." I immidiately apologized and admitted that I shouldn't have asked her that question, in order to prevent ber reporting me.. She nodded, but still looked pissed off. I had a deep feeling that she was going to report me. The next day, my ASSISTANT Manager was giving me a weird look. I figured something bad was going on. I asked her what was going on, and she told me that a Customer reported me for asking her if the older Gentleman with her was her Grandfather. I had a deep feeling I would be reported, remember I tried to prevent that by apologizing and admitting I shouldn't have done it. Didn't work. I told my Manager that I was just trying to make small talk and meant it as an innocent question.

My Manager said something like,"I get that you meant it as innocent, and I know you have a good hearted personality, but not everyone will like personal chit chat when they are trying to buy their groceries. Try to focus on just saying,"Hi, bye,"Thank you, you're welcome and talking about job related professional aspects." It was way better that she reported me to my ASSISTANT Manager and not my STORE Manager as my Store Manager back then was a lot stricter than my Assistant Manager.



The fact that Grandpa was buying Viagra should have been your clue.
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:27:39 AM permalink
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Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:48:30 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...


Lmfao you’re hilarious. You’re sick of my BS? All you are to this site is BS. You spam a reputable site with garbage so they stick you in a corner and tell you to stay there. What do you do? You go around giving gambling advice which is completely wrong which is exactly what you’ve been told to stop doing.

I stand by my statement, this site would be much better off without you on it. Plain and simple! You hurt the brand that Mike spent so much time to create into an amazing AP site.
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:54:18 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...



No, Nathan, "trying to help" isn't what got you suspended for 2 weeks. YOU got YOU suspended for 2 weeks, both for ignoring multiple warnings about giving bad gaming advice, and as a Martingale considering your past recent suspensions, which has been applied many times in the past to other people.

Your kind of "help", pulling numbers out of the air without any disclosure that you don't know the math or what you're talking about, is NOT welcome.

I explained it in some detail when i suspended you, in the thread where you insisted on spreading your bad advice, trying to defend it after you were called on it. I would think you read that, but since it didn't register (based on your comments since), here it is again.

Quote:

He is not now online, but he thanked Nathan, and has not replied to any attempts at corrections. This is completely unacceptable.


Sigh. Ok, I and others have warned Nathan numerous times about doing this. It hasn't stuck. For all we know, narwhal is now sitting in front of that machine throwing hundred dollar bills into it, chasing that major, thinking he got useful advice because it came from this site. When he crashes and burns, what does he say to everybody about the advice he got here?

14 days for trolling with unsuitable misinformation about the primary purpose of this forum and website, which is to give ACCURATE MATH-BASED ADVICE on machines, table games, and other forms of gambling.

Even a disclaimer about her lack of expertise with her advice would have been suitable warning, and part of a useful discussion. But instead, she posts as if she's an expert, to a new member who doesn't know she just throws spaghetti at the wall on these things. And as a member for several years now, with a couple thousand posts, she is able to present herself to the unwary as a knowledgable member. That severely cuts into the credibility of these sites, its members, and especially the Wizard.

If anyone doesn't know this, all the questions from WizardofOdds, not just WizardofVegas, are directed here, to this forum. WizardofOdds is arguably THE authority worldwide for casino games, and the folks here who have the skills to accurately assess these things are a major (and treasured) asset.

Sorry so long a post, but I think I had to explain my decision in some detail. I will be asking the other mods to review it.



You should know, the other mods did review this at my request, and agreed with it. This is not a personal attack on you, though it's obvious you think it is. It's about maintaining the quality of the site and the information it provides.

You should also know what a Martingale means. It will affect you for any subsequent offenses. If you don't, I suggest you look it up. Right on this site, in fact, because it gets discussed a lot among knowledgeable gamblers.
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:59:06 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...


Lmfao you’re hilarious. You’re sick of my BS? All you are to this site is BS. You spam a reputable site with garbage so they stick you in a corner and tell you to stay there. What do you do? You go around giving gambling advice which is completely wrong which is exactly what you’ve been told to stop doing.

I stand by my statement, this site would be much better off without you on it. Plain and simple! You hurt the brand that Mike spent so much time to create into an amazing AP site.




Poker Grinder, I really wish I could cuss you out even more.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:01:20 AM permalink
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Quote: Nathan

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...



No, Nathan, "trying to help" isn't what got you suspended for 2 weeks. YOU got YOU suspended for 2 weeks, both for ignoring multiple warnings about giving bad gaming advice, and as a Martingale considering your past recent suspensions, which has been applied many times in the past to other people.

Your kind of "help", pulling numbers out of the air without any disclosure that you don't know the math or what you're talking about, is NOT welcome.

I explained it in some detail when i suspended you, in the thread where you insisted on spreading your bad advice, trying to defend it after you were called on it. I would think you read that, but since it didn't register (based on your comments since), here it is again.



You should know, the other mods did review this at my request, and agreed with it. This is not a personal attack on you, though it's obvious you think it is. It's about maintaining the quality of the site and the information it provides.

You should also know what a Martingale means. It will affect you for any subsequent offenses. If you don't, I suggest you look it up. Right on this site, in fact, because it gets discussed a lot among knowledgeable gamblers.



My mistake was trying to come across as an AP when I gave that Newbie advice.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:01:38 AM permalink
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:02:24 AM permalink
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Wish real hard on a shooting star and your wish might come true.



Nice try to get me to get myself suspended, but I'm not falling for that trick.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:03:14 AM permalink
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No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...



If you can't call him out without needing to cuss, is that anyone's fault but your own? Sounds like the two of you are equally sick of each other, but one manages to convey his feelings using acceptable language. Why cant you?
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:03:43 AM permalink
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Nice try to get me to get myself suspended.


Nathan is just too smart for me guys 🤣
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:08:59 AM permalink
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Quote: Nathan

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

Quote: beachbumbabs

No need to wonder. It wouldn't.

Yeah, all you're telling us here is you learned nothing from your suspension. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The lesson was: do not post about gaming in response to questions as if you have any expertise in math or playing at an advantage. You don't.



I certainly wasn't expecting a two week suspension for that considering I was trying to HELP someone out. I was shocked.


Babs has warned you multiple times to not give gambling advice as you have no idea what you are talking about. You make the site look bad and could have potentially cost that new member a lot of money. Personally I would have just nuked you as that should have been done over a year ago.



Poker Grinder, I'm real sick of your BS . I am sick of your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am seriously 3 seconds away from cussing you out. The ONLY reason I haven't cussed you out and even put up with your BS is because of the keep it PG Rule. On most other websites, you would NOT see me as how polite I am on here. I really would have told you off so bad like I want to do now and have wanted to do for a long time, but not wanting to get suspended is exactly why I haven't cussed you out. Hell, trying to help someone out got me suspended for two weeks, so...



If you can't call him out without needing to cuss, is that anyone's fault but your own? Sounds like the two of you are equally sick of each other, but one manages to convey his feelings using acceptable language. Why cant you?



Maybe because I'm sick of being polite while he harasses and insults me. Constantly.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:15:21 AM permalink
I don’t insult you, if I did I would be suspended. I state facts that you might be insulted by but the fact that what I’m saying is true makes it not an insult.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:17:00 AM permalink
Nathan I think you should send PG a really nasty PM and tell him how you really feel. I think disclosing PM’s is against the rules so you should skate by on a technicality although I’ve never tried it. And if I had it my way PG would be eating a box of McNuggets at spring fling for every time he upsets you.

Welcome back Nathan! This place just isn’t the same without you...
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:20:12 AM permalink
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I don’t insult you, if I did I would be suspended. I state facts that you might be insulted by but the fact that what I’m saying is true makes it not an insult.



Not really. Calling me fat would be an insult, true or not. Calling a poster here brain dead would be an insult, true or not. The veracity of a statement has nothing to do with whether something is insulting or not.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:20:47 AM permalink
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the fact that what I’m saying is true makes it not an insult.



There have been suspensions in the past that refute that....call it the “Evenbob clause.”
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:21:44 AM permalink
Please no McNuggets, never again.

BR what you state is true. I will admit I was wrong.
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