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December 29th, 2024 at 12:25:51 AM permalink

Quote: darkoz
I started out with a very miniscule advantage.

If Nathan has something that's fantastic. She may be on to growing into a high profit AP career.

I think only her fear of being caught is going to hold her back.
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I don't think Nathan has the AP "it factor" to become an AP.

Heres one small test. Nathan, are you playing other -EV games in-between your loopholing times?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 29th, 2024 at 2:53:41 AM permalink

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Quote: darkoz
I started out with a very miniscule advantage.

If Nathan has something that's fantastic. She may be on to growing into a high profit AP career.

I think only her fear of being caught is going to hold her back.
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I don't think Nathan has the AP "it factor" to become an AP.

Heres one small test. Nathan, are you playing other -EV games in-between your loopholing times?
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Before the advantage loophole, I was asking complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card and getting free play, points, Comps, and getting Promotions that way before one day I made the HUGE mistake of asking someone to play on my Player's Club card TWICE(I forgot that I had ALREADY asked him to play on my Player's Club card ☢️😵‍💫) and he reported me the second time. I had found someone else who played on my Player's Club card and I got approached by some Casino Staff Members and Casino Security and told that I couldn't ask complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card, banned for 24 hours, told of I ever asked another complete Stranger to play on my Player's Club card it would be a permanent banning, and perp walked out of the Casino. ☢️😵‍💫 I had gotten EXTREMELY greedy that day. I was already entitled to a FREE Entry to a Promotion because I am a Silver card, but I decided I wanted MORE Entries, so I asked complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card. I definitely could have won the Promotion with my free entry but decided to get greedy and instead ended up with no entry for the promotion and banned for 24 hours. 😵‍💫☢️

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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December 29th, 2024 at 7:05:01 AM permalink

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Quote: darkoz
I started out with a very miniscule advantage.

If Nathan has something that's fantastic. She may be on to growing into a high profit AP career.

I think only her fear of being caught is going to hold her back.
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I don't think Nathan has the AP "it factor" to become an AP.

Heres one small test. Nathan, are you playing other -EV games in-between your loopholing times?
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Before the advantage loophole, I was asking complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card and getting free play, points, Comps, and getting Promotions that way before one day I made the HUGE mistake of asking someone to play on my Player's Club card TWICE(I forgot that I had ALREADY asked him to play on my Player's Club card ☢️😵‍💫) and he reported me the second time. I had found someone else who played on my Player's Club card and I got approached by some Casino Staff Members and Casino Security and told that I couldn't ask complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card, banned for 24 hours, told of I ever asked another complete Stranger to play on my Player's Club card it would be a permanent banning, and perp walked out of the Casino. ☢️😵‍💫 I had gotten EXTREMELY greedy that day. I was already entitled to a FREE Entry to a Promotion because I am a Silver card, but I decided I wanted MORE Entries, so I asked complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card. I definitely could have won the Promotion with my free entry but decided to get greedy and instead ended up with no entry for the promotion and banned for 24 hours. 😵‍💫☢️
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Perhaps you should seek a career in politics, Your entire paragraph has no relevance to Axels question.

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December 29th, 2024 at 7:11:01 AM permalink

I assume we're being played, and have been from the beginning ... now Nathan can post this kind of stuff knowing we're hooked and will see it. Of note? no pictures of any money

I propose everyone block her until we see some evidence. Axel, I nominate you to keep a lookout !!

the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: �Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!� She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

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December 29th, 2024 at 8:55:57 AM permalink

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Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: darkoz
I started out with a very miniscule advantage.

If Nathan has something that's fantastic. She may be on to growing into a high profit AP career.

I think only her fear of being caught is going to hold her back.
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I don't think Nathan has the AP "it factor" to become an AP.

Heres one small test. Nathan, are you playing other -EV games in-between your loopholing times?
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Before the advantage loophole, I was asking complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card and getting free play, points, Comps, and getting Promotions that way before one day I made the HUGE mistake of asking someone to play on my Player's Club card TWICE(I forgot that I had ALREADY asked him to play on my Player's Club card ☢️😵‍💫) and he reported me the second time. I had found someone else who played on my Player's Club card and I got approached by some Casino Staff Members and Casino Security and told that I couldn't ask complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card, banned for 24 hours, told of I ever asked another complete Stranger to play on my Player's Club card it would be a permanent banning, and perp walked out of the Casino. ☢️😵‍💫 I had gotten EXTREMELY greedy that day. I was already entitled to a FREE Entry to a Promotion because I am a Silver card, but I decided I wanted MORE Entries, so I asked complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card. I definitely could have won the Promotion with my free entry but decided to get greedy and instead ended up with no entry for the promotion and banned for 24 hours. 😵‍💫☢️
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Perhaps you should seek a career in politics, Your entire paragraph has no relevance to Axels question.
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It kind of does. I USED to have a positive EV until I got reported and kicked out the Casino for 24 hours. 💡

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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December 29th, 2024 at 9:01:29 AM permalink

Quote: odiousgambit
I assume we're being played, and have been from the beginning ... now Nathan can post this kind of stuff knowing we're hooked and will see it. Of note? no pictures of any money

I propose everyone block her until we see some evidence. Axel, I nominate you to keep a lookout !!
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I heavily thought about showing proof, but then thought if I show proof, I might just be setting up myself to be caught by the Casino. 💡🤔

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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December 29th, 2024 at 9:40:55 AM permalink

Quote: odiousgambit
I assume we're being played, and have been from the beginning ... now Nathan can post this kind of stuff knowing we're hooked and will see it. Of note? no pictures of any money

I propose everyone block her until we see some evidence. Axel, I nominate you to keep a lookout !!
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From what Nathan has told me, there is, in fact, a loophole and I have come across similar things so I believe it's a legitimate exploitable situation. I think people are going to roll their eyes a bit when it ends and she discloses it. I still don't know how long it's taken her to win $3,300, I don't know if that was a lumpsum. lots of smaller wins or a few medium wins.

I will ask Nathan for her permission to compare it to somthing simular.

I mean, I don't know, if she figured this out herself and it's profitable, I think it's kind of clever given her situation.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 29th, 2024 at 9:54:41 AM permalink

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I mean, I don't know, if she figured this out herself and it's profitable, I think it's kind of clever given her situation.

I was not interested at all in this thread until now. If Axel finds it clever, I am intrigued.

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December 29th, 2024 at 11:42:43 AM permalink

Nathan asked me not to give a particular comparison as she thought it was too close to what she was actually doing. That in and of itself makes me believe she is more astute than we believe.

She said it was ok for this comparison...

If I were to compare it to something... I would compare it to a hot seat promotion where one was able to win by just having their card in a machine without having to play(the machines took an hour to time out), so that person accumulated 3 digits worth of cards over time and would leave their cards in machines during the promotion time.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 29th, 2024 at 11:50:04 AM permalink

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Quote: AxelWolf

I mean, I don't know, if she figured this out herself and it's profitable, I think it's kind of clever given her situation.

I was not interested at all in this thread until now. If Axel finds it clever, I am intrigued.
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Something changed and she noticed the change and and figured out how to exploit it.

There is an ethical aspect one might consider regarding this. I make no judgements but it's just something to note.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 29th, 2024 at 12:42:36 PM permalink

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I USED to have a positive EV until I got reported and kicked out the Casino for 24 hours. 💡
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so this is over now?

the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: �Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!� She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

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December 29th, 2024 at 1:29:43 PM permalink

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Quote: Nathan
I USED to have a positive EV until I got reported and kicked out the Casino for 24 hours. 💡
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so this is over now?
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The "I used to have a positive EV," refers to me asking complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club card until one day I accidentally asked the same person TWICE to play on my Player's Club card and he reported me and I got kicked out and banned for 24 hours. I don't know how I forgot I already asked this guy to play on my Player's Club card. 😵‍💫☢️😱😳😬

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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December 30th, 2024 at 8:15:42 AM permalink

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Quote: Nathan
I USED to have a positive EV until I got reported and kicked out the Casino for 24 hours. 💡
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so this is over now?
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I have a feeling it will be around for a long time.

The amount of money being made on a per-month average is less than my summertime Energy bill.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 30th, 2024 at 8:50:53 PM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf

Something changed and she noticed the change and and figured out how to exploit it.

There is an ethical aspect one might consider regarding this. I make no judgements but it's just something to note.
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That's good AP!

And what do you consider the ethics of AP? For me it's don't screw people you are working with, be respectful of all APs you encounter, do not assist casinos in countering AP. If she's not doing any of that it sounds good to me.

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December 30th, 2024 at 11:36:42 PM permalink

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Quote: AxelWolf

Something changed and she noticed the change and and figured out how to exploit it.

There is an ethical aspect one might consider regarding this. I make no judgements but it's just something to note.
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That's good AP!

And what do you consider the ethics of AP? For me it's don't screw people you are working with, be respectful of all APs you encounter, do not assist casinos in countering AP. If she's not doing any of that it sounds good to me.
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I personally don't take any issue with it.

But, here's an example of something someone might take issue with. Let's say the casino is having a drawing for $10,000 and they allow everyone a maximum of 2 tickets, but somehow you were able to find a loophole they gave you access to 50 tickets. Technically it's the casino money to begin with, but once they are giving it out, it's other people's money.

Again, I don't have a problem or issue with it as I have been involved in similar situations and even worse.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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January 5th, 2025 at 7:43:59 AM permalink

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Quote: AutomaticMonkey
Quote: AxelWolf

Something changed and she noticed the change and and figured out how to exploit it.

There is an ethical aspect one might consider regarding this. I make no judgements but it's just something to note.
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That's good AP!

And what do you consider the ethics of AP? For me it's don't screw people you are working with, be respectful of all APs you encounter, do not assist casinos in countering AP. If she's not doing any of that it sounds good to me.
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I personally don't take any issue with it.

But, here's an example of something someone might take issue with. Let's say the casino is having a drawing for $10,000 and they allow everyone a maximum of 2 tickets, but somehow you were able to find a loophole they gave you access to 50 tickets. Technically it's the casino money to begin with, but once they are giving it out, it's other people's money.

Again, I don't have a problem or issue with it as I have been involved in similar situations and even worse.
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I JUST saw this post TODAY. Axel is CLOSE to what the advantage loophole is. 😀 💡

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 15th, 2025 at 7:06:55 AM permalink

I was JUST was told my Grandpa died! 😭

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 15th, 2025 at 7:09:47 AM permalink

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I was JUST was told my Grandpa died! 😭
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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you have some fond memories of him that will help you through the difficult times.

This just reminds me how old I am. I haven't had grandparents for over 40 years.

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January 15th, 2025 at 7:37:31 AM permalink

Sorry to hear that. If you "just found out," did it happen a bit ago?

I tell you it�s wonderful to be here, man. I don�t give a damn who wins or loses. It�s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/

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January 15th, 2025 at 10:58:10 AM permalink

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Sorry to hear that. If you "just found out," did it happen a bit ago?
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Thank you for your condolences. 😇 Grandpa died last Wednesday, Mom JUST told me last night! 😵‍💫

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 15th, 2025 at 11:01:01 AM permalink

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I was JUST was told my Grandpa died! 😭
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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you have some fond memories of him that will help you through the difficult times.

This just reminds me how old I am. I haven't had grandparents for over 40 years.
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Thank you for your condolences. 😇 Yep, I have fond memories of my Grandpa. 😇 Sad thing is, he was my last living Grandpa. 😭 Maternal Grandfather died when my Mom was still a child. 😭 And my Paternal Grandpa died last Wednesday. 😭

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 15th, 2025 at 11:01:22 AM permalink

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Sorry to hear that. If you "just found out," did it happen a bit ago?
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Thank you for your condolences. 😇 Grandpa died last Wednesday, Mom JUST told me last night! 😵‍💫
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Just had a bunch of friends lose very elderly relatives. Assuming grandpa lived a good life, and found joy in his family (like you!), please celebrate his life rather than mourn his death. I hope that�s what my kids and grandkids do when I kick the bucket.

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January 15th, 2025 at 12:56:58 PM permalink

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Sorry to hear that. If you "just found out," did it happen a bit ago?
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Thank you for your condolences. 😇 Grandpa died last Wednesday, Mom JUST told me last night! 😵‍💫
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Just had a bunch of friends lose very elderly relatives. Assuming grandpa lived a good life, and found joy in his family (like you!), please celebrate his life rather than mourn his death. I hope that�s what my kids and grandkids do when I kick the bucket.
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Yep, Grandpa was EXTREMELY elderly. 95. 💡 Grandpa lives a good life loved by Family! 😇 M6 condolences to your Friends who lost their elderly relatives. 😭 Hopefully your kids and Grandkids celebrate your life than mourn your death when you go to the other side so to speak. 😇💡

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 21st, 2025 at 2:27:40 AM permalink

Had some ice cream from Publix, their Publix premium ice cream, French Vanilla. From the VERY first spoonful, it was off. It tasted like the Blue Bunny frozen dessert "ice cream,". My stool looked kind of greenish grayish, kind of like what happened when I ate Blue Bunny frozen dessert "ice cream." I looked at the carton and the carton said it was ice cream not frozen dessert but I coincidentally had VERY similar things happen with Blue Bunny frozen dessert "ice cream." 😵‍💫

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In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 21st, 2025 at 5:34:46 AM permalink

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My stool looked kind of greenish grayish,

TMI.

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January 21st, 2025 at 6:16:40 AM permalink

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Quote: Nathan
My stool looked kind of greenish grayish,

TMI.
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Well, you are in Nathan's Corner so me doing TMI posts comes with the territory. 😉🤣🤭

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 21st, 2025 at 10:30:58 AM permalink

Sorry to read about the loss of your Grandpa, Nathan.

Remember to value your parents while you still have them.

So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.

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January 22nd, 2025 at 7:55:55 PM permalink

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Sorry to read about the loss of your Grandpa, Nathan.

Remember to value your parents while you still have them.
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Thank you for your kind words Dieter. 😇

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 27th, 2025 at 4:37:08 AM permalink

Did the advantage loophole a few days ago. 😀 Won two times, 😀 and ALMOST won a third time. 💡 Player's Club Staff Member looked and sounded a bit suspicious, but I ended up losing the third time and that curbed suspicion. 💡 Like I said before, you WANT to lose too, not just win all the time. Winning all the time equals a LOT of possible suspicion, winning and losing equals not that much possible suspicion. 😀💡

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 31st, 2025 at 2:38:16 PM permalink

I won roughly a $1,900 Jackpot (I got an unexpected Mystery Progressive Jackpot. 😀 and received a W2G form and filed it with my taxes! 😀 This is my first W2G form ever and it was extensive to tell you. ☢️💡I had to put the Cashier name/Number who processed the Jackpot and a LOT of other little things. As I filed my W2G Form I thought of how time consuming it would have been if I had about 20 W2G Forms to fill out. ☢️

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 31st, 2025 at 3:12:41 PM permalink

Sounds like you just got the W-2G. So why would you be filing anything pursuant to it this year.

I mean in my case when I won a cash prize in a casino drawing they handed me the W-2G even before I could go to the casino cage to collect.

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January 31st, 2025 at 4:23:39 PM permalink

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Sounds like you just got the W-2G. So why would you be filing anything pursuant to it this year.

I mean in my case when I won a cash prize in a casino drawing they handed me the W-2G even before I could go to the casino cage to collect.
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No, I got the Jackpot and the W-2G in October. 😀 I filed the W-2G with this year's taxes. 😀

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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January 31st, 2025 at 8:53:37 PM permalink

Quote: MDawg
Sounds like you just got the W-2G. So why would you be filing anything pursuant to it this year.

I mean in my case when I won a cash prize in a casino drawing they handed me the W-2G even before I could go to the casino cage to collect.
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You got a W2G and not a 1099?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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January 31st, 2025 at 9:54:45 PM permalink

Correct.

DRich remarked on that too but the difference is that I actually won and received the cash while many of the rest of you just talk about what you think should be.

Specifically it was a contest where a certain amount of Theo loss / play over a certain number of days equaled a certain number of tickets up to a maximum number. I won one of the top cash prizes (all prizes were cash) with just one ticket in the drum it was pretty amazing while many who maxed out won nothing.

I tell you it�s wonderful to be here, man. I don�t give a damn who wins or loses. It�s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/

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February 1st, 2025 at 3:50:44 AM permalink

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As I filed my W2G Form I thought of how time consuming it would have been if I had about 20 W2G Forms to fill out. ☢️

One of my bigger years gambling I had over 500 W2G's to file and that was back when you had to itemize every single one and submit the paper copies to the IRS, It was a pain in the butt.

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February 1st, 2025 at 4:56:11 AM permalink

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As I filed my W2G Form I thought of how time consuming it would have been if I had about 20 W2G Forms to fill out. ☢️

One of my bigger years gambling I had over 500 W2G's to file and that was back when you had to itemize every single one and submit the paper copies to the IRS, It was a pain in the butt.
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Isn't that what the wife is for?

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February 1st, 2025 at 6:17:11 AM permalink

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As I filed my W2G Form I thought of how time consuming it would have been if I had about 20 W2G Forms to fill out. ☢️

One of my bigger years gambling I had over 500 W2G's to file and that was back when you had to itemize every single one and submit the paper copies to the IRS, It was a pain in the butt.
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Isn't that what the wife is for?
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Unfortunately, this was before the current wife who works for a CPA firm.

You can't know everything, but you can know anything.

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February 1st, 2025 at 6:34:31 AM permalink

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As I filed my W2G Form I thought of how time consuming it would have been if I had about 20 W2G Forms to fill out. ☢️

One of my bigger years gambling I had over 500 W2G's to file and that was back when you had to itemize every single one and submit the paper copies to the IRS, It was a pain in the butt.
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Isn't that what the wife is for?
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Unfortunately, this was before the current wife who works for a CPA firm.
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Smart choice.
When I lived in Vegas, I was friendly with Funnybone, a top draw on the independent wrestling circuit. He had some tax issues a few years back, but he now keeps meticulous records. In 2018, he had over 500 1099s from shows and appearances, and he half-jokingly said he wrestles a week a year just to pay for his tax preparation.

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February 1st, 2025 at 8:05:14 AM permalink

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Correct.

DRich remarked on that too but the difference is that I actually won and received the cash while many of the rest of you just talk about what you think should be.

Specifically it was a contest where a certain amount of Theo loss / play over a certain number of days equaled a certain number of tickets up to a maximum number. I won one of the top cash prizes (all prizes were cash) with just one ticket in the drum it was pretty amazing while many who maxed out won nothing.
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Cash as aposed to what?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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February 1st, 2025 at 8:25:03 AM permalink

Promo chips obviously. I thought you claimed to have been in tournaments or drawings before??

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February 1st, 2025 at 8:56:03 AM permalink

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Promo chips obviously. I thought you claimed to have been in tournaments or drawings before??
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I don't know that promo chips are/were obvious to anyone but you.

Of course, I have been in and won countless drawings and contests.

I have never been in a tournament or drawing that offered promo chips as a prize, it's usually cash, free play, or an actual prize, such as a car. Oftentimes they give you a cash option instead of the prize.

Regardless, of whatever type of payment I chose (even cash) if it was a contest, drawing, or promo they would normally give a 1099. There have been multiple times when I have been issued free play and there was no W2G or 1099 issued. There was one casino that was issuing 1099s for $100 free play wins.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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February 1st, 2025 at 10:06:13 AM permalink

As I said before, you know next to nothing about much to do with table games, especially any sort of high level action with regards to that, and prove it with your comments time and again.

I on the other hand know next to nothing about much to do with slots. Keep pushing dem buttons!

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February 1st, 2025 at 10:13:33 AM permalink

Actually on a recent small promo, I had a choice between 1200 in play 'til you lose chips on a table game, or 1200 in slots free play. I have been playing big enough that 1200 doesn't mean much of anything to me at the moment, so I just gave it to my wife. She pushed the buttons for a while, and then lost interest. I finished it off the next day. Net result was around 60% cash out. One thing I figured out or at least it seemed that way to me was that had to keep pushing the cash out button for a ticket every time it hit any payout, or else the payout was recycled / rolled into the free play bank and then couldn't be cashed out.

I tell you it�s wonderful to be here, man. I don�t give a damn who wins or loses. It�s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/

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February 1st, 2025 at 10:51:09 AM permalink

Quote: MDawg
As I said before, you know next to nothing about much to do with table games, especially any sort of high level action with regards to that, and prove it with your comments time and again.

I on the other hand know next to nothing about much to do with slots. Keep pushing dem buttons!
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How or why are my comments wrong and or lack knowledge? Me thinks you need to use that standard BS line since you have nothing.

Are you claiming that drawings won from the table games department are treated differently than drawings won from the slot department when it comes to what forms they should be issuing to the winners?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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February 1st, 2025 at 1:56:32 PM permalink

I'm pretty sure the gambling paperwork I filed to the IRS said W-2G and not a 1099.

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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February 2nd, 2025 at 7:13:34 AM permalink

Checked my Gambling paperwork and they it says W-2G, not 1099. 💡

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In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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February 2nd, 2025 at 3:33:26 PM permalink

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Sorry to read about the loss of your Grandpa, Nathan.

Remember to value your parents while you still have them.
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Thank you for your kind words Dieter. 😇
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You have mistaken me for Dieter. Even though this is a grave insult to Dieter, it is not suspension worthy.

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February 2nd, 2025 at 4:05:39 PM permalink

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Sorry to read about the loss of your Grandpa, Nathan.

Remember to value your parents while you still have them.
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Thank you for your kind words Dieter. 😇
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You have mistaken me for Dieter. Even though this is a grave insult to Dieter, it is not suspension w

Sorryorthy.
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Sorry, I REALLY should have said,"Gordon, and not Dieter. 💡 Thank you for your kind words, Gordon. 😇

In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D

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