Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DieterQuote: SlotenthusiastQuote: DieterQuote: AxelWolfThats just Boz's way of saying he loves you Nathan.Quote: Itsboz1
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When we ban someone, we don't want to hear from them anymore.
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Wouldn’t someone posting about a loophole and then not going into detail in any way constitute a ban? This is a gambling forum where we share ideas to help one another after all.
Why bring it up in the first place? I’d ban for trolling.
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As far as I know, she may be on to something and privately discussing it with an expert. Your annoyance at her unusual exuberance and glee wouldn't seem to justify a ban at this time.
Enjoy the day! -D
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And you are about to shoot a yeti while riding your unicorn.
Enjoy the day!
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I'd shoot a yeti if he were about to eat my unicorn. Who wouldn't?
If casino staff is involved you will have to go on different shifts if possible, or she is going to have to recruit friends and family. I'm leaning toward that (friends and family) having to be the case.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: NathanI won an extra game yesterday and purposely chose not to get any money for it because if I had attempted to get the money I won, Casino Staff Members would have DEFINITELY saw red flags. ☢️
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I’d guess Axel has cashed out in the thousands of $$$$ a few thousand times in his career and somehow avoided those ‘red flags’. PM him and ask him what magic he uses to do it
Have you already penned your ‘I’m sorry I trolled the forum but wanted to feel good about myself’ apology yet, by the way?
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Roulette... no because she would say dealer not staff
Quote: Itsboz2This involves the Funtastik Lottery that runs Fridays at Gulfstream Park. Somehow the retard has come up with a way to beat the system. Not sure how she figured it out but considering she has the IQ of an ear of corn someone on the scene should be able to duplicate it.
Maybe it came to her while she was taking a Dieter on the floor.
Meanwhile she got the attention her lying ass wanted.
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The advantage loophole is actually MORE like Ultimate X game than Funtastic Lotto game. 😉 Although I DO play with an advantage play when I play Funtastic Lotto. 😉
Quote: AxelWolfNathan has mentioned a few places she frequently visits it's easy to check the website for promotions and get an idea of what she is playing.. I believe she has found something but I don't think the value is what she is leading us to believe. I also think if she gets caught she will get 86ed. But hey, make the money while you can.
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I think the Casino Staff is a LITTLE suspicious after joking about how lucky I am after I won three times recently for $900, but I actually ended up losing afterwards, so that could quell potential suspicion. 😉
Quote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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And you don't believe what I do works?
Not much of an endorsement in my seriously honest opinion.
As was my take on the situation. Since she told you, do you think it's something that the casino might 86 her for doing?Quote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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Do you care if Nathan believes you? If not you shouldn't care if the Dawg believes you.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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And you don't believe what I do works?
Not much of an endorsement in my seriously honest opinion.
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Serious question, would you still not buy 100k worth of free play for 50k? Let's assume there's no risks other than the EV and variance involved.
Quote: AxelWolfDo you care if Nathan believes you? If not you shouldn't care if the Dawg believes you.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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And you don't believe what I do works?
Not much of an endorsement in my seriously honest opinion.
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Serious question, would you still not buy 100k worth of free play for 50k? Let's assume there's no risks other than the EV and variance involved.
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This seems like getting off topic but there are one or two places I would do that. Primarily because I have the ability to guarantee turning over the Freeplay at about a 95% rate.
Otherwise I can get a lot more Freeplay for $50,000 than just $100,000.
Quote: SlotenthusiastQuote: SOOPOOOk. This is a gambling website. I’d surmise fair odds on Nathan actually having found a ‘loophole’ worth tens of thousands of dollars does not exceed 5%. It doesn’t cost me anything to ask questions/make suggestions that this is real, but I highly doubt it is. I truly hope I am wrong!
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I agree I even would propose the odds to be higher that Nathan posted this to sell a fake loophole to make money off us than the play existing in the first place.
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Making up a fake loophole in order to make money off of Posters would be a REALLY low, shady, sketchy, dirty and dastardly move. ☢️ I don't do shady crap like that. ☢️ And I honestly don't appreciate the implication that I would do that. ☢️
Quote: AxelWolfDo you care if Nathan believes you? If not you shouldn't care if the Dawg believes you.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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And you don't believe what I do works?
Not much of an endorsement in my seriously honest opinion.
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Serious question, would you still not buy 100k worth of free play for 50k? Let's assume there's no risks other than the EV and variance involved.
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If I had the ability to make $20,000 a week( but not every week), I don't think I would jeopardize it for that one time deal.
Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfDo you care if Nathan believes you? If not you shouldn't care if the Dawg believes you.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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And you don't believe what I do works?
Not much of an endorsement in my seriously honest opinion.
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Serious question, would you still not buy 100k worth of free play for 50k? Let's assume there's no risks other than the EV and variance involved.
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If I had the ability to make $20,000 a week( but not every week), I don't think I would jeopardize it for that one time deal.
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Well, there's always jeopardy with what I do.
You either embrace it or get the hell out.
Quote: billryanEvery business comes with some risk, but jeopardizing your successful company for two weeks of income seems foolish.
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I guess what I am saying is there really isn't much difference between taking $100,000 of Freeplay from a casino that I purchased versus taking $100,000 Freeplay that I earned using my methods.
This is going by Axels proviso that there wasn't any difference between the two situations.
I probably wouldn't do it from the perspective of my not knowing where the free play originated from (stolen? Downloads by an employee, earned without the card holders permission etc) which would as you said be jeopardizing my ongoing business.
But given Axels parameters it's about the same risk
Quote: AxelWolfAs was my take on the situation. Since she told you, do you think it's something that the casino might 86 her for doing?Quote: MDawgNathan has confided in me the scheme and it is legitimate. I don't necessarily agree with her estimation of what it is worth, but I do believe she is doing it and has made what she claims.
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I don't know if she wants to post any more about it. What I posted doesn't disclose much of anything about what she is doing or not doing.
As far as D.Oz, we don't want to open that Dark can of worms again, but I have never said that I disbelieve that the Oz & Co. are multicarding, just that I scoff at such meaningless estimations as "I make $20,000. a week (but not every week)" such that it is impossible to know from his very claims themselves, what he is or is not making on an ongoing basis.
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And you are about to shoot a yeti while riding your unicorn.
Enjoy the day!
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I'd shoot a yeti if he were about to eat my unicorn. Who wouldn't?
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Shouting "He's coming right for us!" doesn't make it yeti season.
Quote: AxelWolfIf casino staff is involved you will have to go on different shifts if possible, or she is going to have to recruit friends and family. I'm leaning toward that (friends and family) having to be the case.
Roulette... no because she would say dealer not staff
I think it is clear she is talking about Bingo.
I think she can WIN up to 28k, that's probably based on hitting something very unlikely. Im sure it's not illegal, but it's probably against the casino rules, they will probably consider it cheating the casino, and or, others.Quote: SlotenthusiastIf she can really make up to 28k her best bet is to win 28k one time and not go back for a year (provided this is a legal loophole)
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Yes, I would agree. Unlimited free bingo somehow. Given their promo... for one to have the EV she is suggesting, how does one play that many bingo cards by hand? I doubt their promo has a machine that plays for you.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfIf casino staff is involved you will have to go on different shifts if possible, or she is going to have to recruit friends and family. I'm leaning toward that (friends and family) having to be the case.
Roulette... no because she would say dealer not staff
I think it is clear she is talking about Bingo.
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I have only played bingo a few times in my life, so I don't know how that works.
Quote: NathanIt also has an element of Ultimate X/Green Stamps. 😉
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Drip drip drip.
Confuscious say leaky faucet lead to flood
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanIt also has an element of Ultimate X/Green Stamps. 😉
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Drip drip drip.
Confuscious say leaky faucet lead to flood
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And Confuscious say,"Leaky faucet needs to be turned off immediately." 💡😉
I soon got tired of the Number One Navy Seal Sock, finding it useless and stupid, NONS was mostly just fighting with my other Sock, Donathan. I wanted NONS banned immediately, so I started a nasty rant and cussing out The Admin and other Members, thinking,"There's no way that the Admin is going to allow NONS to still be an active Member after this nasty rant and cussing out thread. The Admin said something like,"How quaint.NONS is throwing a temper tantrum like a two year old. I find it cute and amusing actually," and DIDN'T ban NONS.
I as Donathan said something like,"Geeze, you'd think a nasty rant and cussing out an Admin and other Members would be an IMMEDIATE ban, but no, the Admin found it quaint, amusing, and cute and DIDN'T ban NONS. NONS is STILL active. Posters responded something like,"Your attempt to get your NONS sock banned didn't go the way you planned and wanted, huh, 🤭 I STILL wanted NONS banned immediately, and I admitted I wasn't actually a Navy Seal. Posters responded something like,"I knew you weren't ACTUALLY a NAVY SEAL because you didn't even capitalize the term the right way although you did get the Navy Class graduate right." The Admin banned the Number One Navy Seal Sock after admitting to falsely claiming to be a Navy Seal saying something like,"I found your nasty rant and cussing is out quaint, cute, and amusing, but you pretending to be a NAVY SEAL is completely watc out of line You are permanently banned. " I felt relieved.
Years later, I watched What Would You Do?" In the What Would You Do? Episode, an Actor was portraying a struggling Soldier who was on a break home from the Military. He was having trouble buying diapers, food, and other basic stuff. Customers in line gave him money or bought the items for him. He was wearing Camouflage like Soldiers do but Posters watching the episode questioned why his patches were WRONG for the type of Military he was portraying and questioned why the show let the Actor look like he was committing stolen valor. I had NEVER heard of the term stolen valor before the Posters mentioned it and I then realized immediately that my Number One Navy Seal Sock was committing stolen valor and I was shocked. ☢️ I then realized why the Posters threatened to report my Number One Navy Seal Sock to the actual NAVY to possibly get me arrested. ☢️ Luckily I came clean about not REALLY being a Navy Seal. 💡
Nathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
Quote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
Quote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
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And you thought telling everyone about your lies about being a Warrior was a better idea?
Quote: billryanQuote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
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And you thought telling everyone about your lies about being a Warrior was a better idea?
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A Navy Seal, not a Warrior. 😏😉😉 A Warrior would be more like William Wallace from Braveheart. 😏😉
You were told that from the very beginning and you told way too many people already. Exactly how many different people did you tell? I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.Quote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
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At this point I'm almost certain either someone's going to rat you out or you'll get a bunch of competition.
Quote: AxelWolfYou were told that from the very beginning and you told way too many people already. Exactly how many different people did you tell? I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.Quote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
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At this point I'm almost certain either someone's going to rat you out or you'll get a bunch of competition.
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I ONLY told about FOUR people what the advantage loophole is. 💡
Quote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfYou were told that from the very beginning and you told way too many people already. Exactly how many different people did you tell? I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.Quote: NathanQuote: AxelWolfNathan, no one cares about this nonsense.Quote: NathanSo on a video about Family Guy's Peter Griffin knocking out a Customer with a cookie tray because she just eats free cookie samples and NEVER buys a cookie, a Poster said something like,"I went to a pretzel store and these two ladies were sitting at a table, hogging all the free pretzel samples. I was disgusted and ate one of the pretzel samples. The two ladies gave me the death glare, but I didn't care(Hey, that rhymes! 🤭) I then bought a full pretzel, liking the free pretzel samples I got that the ladies were hogging. At the Counter, the Cashier said,"Oh, it's you, you're the one who stole those ladies' pretzel. Why did you eat their pretzel? I was baffled and responded,"They were hogging all the free pretzel samples and I wanted one!" 😵💫 The Cashier responded,"Actually, the free samples are on another table, and pointed to the free pretzel samples." I was horrified at the realization that I had just stolen food from complete Strangers. No wonder they gave me the death glare. I REALLY should have just minded my own business!" ☢️😵💫 Ouch, I felt that cringe from the other side of the screen. I would have been horrified myself in his shoes! ☢️😵💫
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Get back to your casino exploit.
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I got advice that talking about the advantage loophole might not be such a good idea, so I dropped it. 💡
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At this point I'm almost certain either someone's going to rat you out or you'll get a bunch of competition.
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I ONLY told about FOUR people what the advantage loophole is. 💡
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WTF does ‘about 4’ mean? Is it 3? 4? 5? You can’t remember? I disagree with Axel. If you told MDawg, as an example, hes not coming to South Florida to horn in on your action. Wizard as well. Even me, who would only need to drive 6 hours or so.
I hope to eat crow. I still don’t believe you are raking in the money you claim to be. If you really are, you should donate some to the widows of your Navy Seal brethren.
Quote: SOOPOO
WTF does ‘about 4’ mean? Is it 3? 4? 5? You can’t remember? I disagree with Axel. If you told MDawg, as an example, hes not coming to South Florida to horn in on your action. Wizard as well. Even me, who would only need to drive 6 hours or so.
I hope to eat crow. I still don’t believe you are raking in the money you claim to be. If you really are, you should donate some to the widows of your Navy Seal brethren.
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It was such a rich opportunity that I flew 4000 miles to get a piece of the action. $:o)
Quote: OnceDearQuote: SOOPOO
WTF does ‘about 4’ mean? Is it 3? 4? 5? You can’t remember? I disagree with Axel. If you told MDawg, as an example, hes not coming to South Florida to horn in on your action. Wizard as well. Even me, who would only need to drive 6 hours or so.
I hope to eat crow. I still don’t believe you are raking in the money you claim to be. If you really are, you should donate some to the widows of your Navy Seal brethren.
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It was such a rich opportunity that I flew 4000 miles to get a piece of the action. $:o)
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(sigh)
I do not believe you.
Well, that's super dumb. I guess we can't all be perfect.Quote: SOOPOOI disagree with Axel.
Poster one said,"I find the Beatles overrated too.
Poster two said,"I find The Beatles overrated too
Poster three said,"I find The Beatles overrated too.
Poster four said,"I find The Beatles overrated too.
Poster five said,"I find The Beatles overrated too."
Another Poster went off ONLY on Poster five saying something like,"How dare you find The Beatles overrated? The Beatles are one of the most iconic bands of all time and changed the music industry forever in a good way. I'll bet you like trash pop like Cardi B who sings about sex and drugging men against their will and then robbing them!"
Poster five responded baffled,"FIVE other People, including the OP also said that they find The Beatles overrated and you ONLY attack ME when FIVE other people said the same exact thing?" 🤨 The Poster didn't respond, LMAO! 🤣🤭
Quote: billryanKool story, Bro
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LMAO! 🤣🤭 I am doing play it safe posts now. 🤣🤭
Do you get a Xmas bonus from work?
Or is it just a ‘bag humbug’ type season for you?
Quote: SOOPOOSo Nathan, with all that loophole money flowing in, what is the best Xmas present you bought this year?
Do you get a Xmas bonus from work?
Or is it just a ‘bag humbug’ type season for you?
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I'm trying hard to avoid talking about the advantage loophole. 💡
Are you trying to avoid talking about it because you have come to the realization that it's not worth anywhere near what you may have unintentionally led us to belive?Quote: NathanQuote: SOOPOOSo Nathan, with all that loophole money flowing in, what is the best Xmas present you bought this year?
Do you get a Xmas bonus from work?
Or is it just a ‘bag humbug’ type season for you?
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I'm trying hard to avoid talking about the advantage loophole. 💡
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Nathan told me what her exploit/loophole is. It certainly seems as if it has some free +EV value.
It's hard to determine what the value is without all the information as there are just too many unknowns to calculate that at this point.
It might be worth $50 a day or it might be worth a thousand a day. I think it's on the very lower end of that, but since I don't have all the information and I'm not there, it's very hard to estimate the actual value.
She claims to be up $3,300, but knowing how long that took might shed some light on the situation. 2 weeks, 2 days, 1 year?
In my opinion, Nathan seems to be attracted to and focused on the possibility of the bright lights, unfortunately, those bright lights are light years away.
If Nathan has something that's fantastic. She may be on to growing into a high profit AP career.
I think only her fear of being caught is going to hold her back.
Quote: AxelWolfAre you trying to avoid talking about it because you have come to the realization that it's not worth anywhere near what you may have unintentionally led us to belive?Quote: NathanQuote: SOOPOOSo Nathan, with all that loophole money flowing in, what is the best Xmas present you bought this year?
Do you get a Xmas bonus from work?
Or is it just a ‘bag humbug’ type season for you?
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I'm trying hard to avoid talking about the advantage loophole. 💡
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Nathan told me what her exploit/loophole is. It certainly seems as if it has some free +EV value.
It's hard to determine what the value is without all the information as there are just too many unknowns to calculate that at this point.
It might be worth $50 a day or it might be worth a thousand a day. I think it's on the very lower end of that, but since I don't have all the information and I'm not there, it's very hard to estimate the actual value.
She claims to be up $3,300, but knowing how long that took might shed some light on the situation. 2 weeks, 2 days, 1 year?
In my opinion, Nathan seems to be attracted to and focused on the possibility of the bright lights, unfortunately, those bright lights are light years away.
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I would guess that this is a basic confusion between "You could win up to $xxxx" and what the EV is.