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Quote: AZDuffmanWhat is the worst record over a period of say 5 years in the modern era?
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2013-4 wins
2014-7 wins
2015-3 wins
2016-1 win
2017-0 wins so far.
The 2007-2011 Rams had 15 wins out of 80 in a five year span, for 18.75%. The Browns need 1 win to not share their place. Having another really bad year or two ongoing, the Browns might break a record that will never be broken.
Quote:Los Angeles Rams: 2007-2011: 19% 3-13, 2-14, 1-15, 7-9, 2-14
Quote: onenickelmiraclehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/4mcx9e/every_nfl_teams_worst_5_year_stretch_based_on_win
2013-4 wins
2014-7 wins
2015-3 wins
2016-1 win
2017-0 wins so far.
The 2007-2011 Rams had 15 wins out of 80 in a five year span, for 18.75%. The Browns need 1 win to not share their place. Having another really bad year or two ongoing, the Browns might break a record that will never be broken.
Dabba nabbala, I have been so tuned out of the NFL since 2012 I did not notice they have done this bad. I do know Browns fans that at least claim to have finally given up on caring. One thing to ask, is "parity" over in the NFL? That used to be their goal, have most of the teams enter week 15 at 7-7 so almost anyone had a shot. Now it really seems there are a class of haves and have nots.
I think the home field advantage for Cleveland really doesn't exist. Not only does Cleveland stink, the fans stink. Either they don't want to show or if they show, they're not involved in the gone, very quiet.Quote: AZDuffmanDabba nabbala, I have been so tuned out of the NFL since 2012 I did not notice they have done this bad. I do know Browns fans that at least claim to have finally given up on caring. One thing to ask, is "parity" over in the NFL? That used to be their goal, have most of the teams enter week 15 at 7-7 so almost anyone had a shot. Now it really seems there are a class of haves and have nots.
I am a Browns fan, but it's very casual. I'd rather watch another game, because it's hopeless and feel I'll learn more about the teams watching other games.The last time I purchased Browns merchandise, 30 years ago I think. I'll probably buy a Brady jersey before anything Browns, or a few other players that are impressive and not Steelers.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI think the home field advantage for Cleveland really doesn't exist. Not only does Cleveland stink, the fans stink. Either they don't want to show or if they show, they're not involved in the gone, very quiet.
When things are that bad, fans go quiet. You know I have quit watching, but it has to be getting like Cincinnati where Steeler fans overrun the place and make it an away game. Other teams too. I might guess. It is not to a decade level yet but IIRC the NFL hinted to the Brown family that they might move to take the team if the Bengals did not improve from being doormats and they put some money in things (Bengals were last team to get a website.)
Quote:I am a Browns fan, but it's very casual. I'd rather watch another game, because it's hopeless and feel I'll learn more about the teams watching other games.The last time I purchased Browns merchandise, 30 years ago I think. I'll probably buy a Brady jersey before anything Browns, or a few other players that are impressive and not Steelers.
If I had known I would have given you one of the Steelers/Browns end-of-rivalry cans from 1995. I bought them hoping they would be worth something. So did half the city. I have been dumping my collectable beer cans as I am getting out of the fan business. I gave away several of those cans, ironically usually to Browns fans. Gave one to a gal I worked with, along with the most unusual of collectables, the card asking fans to behave so they could get a new NFL team. Planned on doing something with it, but a new Browns team made it less interesting. She framed it for her dad. He loved it.