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AxelWolf
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September 11th, 2016 at 3:37:00 PM permalink
I do believe it's the borrowers fault, however if a casino knows someone has an addiction then they should have some responsibility.

I don't think it should be a crime, it should be treated like any other loan. If the casinos want to be stupid and loan someone to much then that's on them. That would solve the problem. Casinos would be more careful who they loan to and how much.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Boz
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September 11th, 2016 at 3:53:57 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I do believe it's the borrowers fault, however if a casino knows someone has an addiction then they should have some responsibility.

I don't think it should be a crime, it should be treated like any other loan. If the casinos want to be stupid and loan someone to much then that's on them. That would solve the problem. Casinos would be more careful who they loan to and how much.



But they are clear it is a check. And by clear I mean you don't have to look far in the details to see this. And clearly we all understand writing bad checks is a crime.

By the way Dana Plato was kind of hot. Of course before all the bad checks, the crack and the Al Phillips robbery.
487tracydrive
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September 11th, 2016 at 4:21:15 PM permalink
Normal practice is to deposit a check the next business day. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a LOAN!
Boz
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September 11th, 2016 at 5:07:08 PM permalink
Quote: 487tracydrive

Normal practice is to deposit a check the next business day. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a LOAN!



Basic reminder, not that I need it, never do business with 487.....
Joeshlabotnik
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September 11th, 2016 at 6:24:48 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

I bring it down to liberals always thinking banks are bad and those who don't pay debts are "victims". And the rest of the country believes in personal responsibility....



Boy, it's sure a good thing that no conservatives took out any of those subprime loans---only stinkin'.liberals!
onenickelmiracle
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September 11th, 2016 at 6:53:33 PM permalink
We enable these repeat users by not having court costs be more expensive too. When court isn't something people fear avoiding, tells you right there it's too cheap. I would favor buy more pay more to keep lawsuits out of court unless necessary. Such as filing fees $100 if you file once every two years maximum, but the biggest suers $1,000 each for volume. By letting costs be too cheap, we're encouraging dependency.
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Boz
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September 11th, 2016 at 6:56:55 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Boy, it's sure a good thing that no conservatives took out any of those subprime loans---only stinkin'.liberals!



Never said stupid people on either side. Will never defend idiots. And yet their vote counts either way. Stupidly never transcends party lines.

But pay your debts is universal,
AxelWolf
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September 11th, 2016 at 6:57:42 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

But they are clear it is a check. And by clear I mean you don't have to look far in the details to see this. And clearly we all understand writing bad checks is a crime.

By the way Dana Plato was kind of hot. Of course before all the bad checks, the crack and the Al Phillips robbery.

It's a LOAN (30 days?)and you dam well know it. They can disguise it anyway they want to. They know dam well oftentimes people don't have the money. Oftentimes they LOAN you the money on your future paycheck.

Hopefully things will change and someday soon casino's will not be allowed to press criminal charges.

What the casinos are doing regarding this should be criminal. No good comes of it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Wizardofnothing
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September 11th, 2016 at 7:11:31 PM permalink
Not only is it a loan- the do strictly because the government enforces it at no charge to them- Master card gives out wayyyyyy less credit because they have to collect themselves if it goes bad..
Post dating checks is illegal to the best of my knowledge so the casinos get around it by dating it that day and just not depositing it
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KingoftheEye
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September 13th, 2016 at 7:30:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's a LOAN (30 days?)and you dam well know it. They can disguise it anyway they want to. They know dam well oftentimes people don't have the money. Oftentimes they LOAN you the money on your future paycheck.

Hopefully things will change and someday soon casino's will not be allowed to press criminal charges.

What the casinos are doing regarding this should be criminal. No good comes of it.



Not saying this statement applies in this case, but there are a lot of degenerate gamblers out there. If there is no deterrent, such as criminal charges, how can the casinos run any sort of credit system without some means to recover their funds?

In cases where your "victim" borrows money from the casino and loses at the casino, it is easy to look at this as a case of no money was really lost by either party, let's just call it a day. Unfortunately, some credit players will take the chips and walk out the door to another property to pay off a marker there. In this case, the casino definitely lost money. If all the casino can do is chase the "victim" to a bankruptcy judgement, then the credit system won't be sustainable, a lot of high action will dry up, and your comp rates will drop.

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