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May 6th, 2016 at 12:25:05 PM permalink
The latest Chip of the Day post was for the Hard Rock in Lake Tahoe. One thing I have wondered about Lake Tahoe is if fishing is allowed. If it is, do you need a California or Nevada license (or both)? Also, the border between the two states runs through the lake, but somewhere out on the water, it takes a right hand turn from it's northwest path from the Colorado River south of Laughlin, and heads due north to Oregon. Looking into this odd turn, I came across this interesting (to me at least) article on the history of the border. It is funny how the government can really screw things up: .pdf Article on the formation of the CA/NV border.



There was a previous post on a related topic: The NV/AZ Border
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May 6th, 2016 at 12:34:59 PM permalink
I believe that pool is at the CalNeva casino. I have stayed there before. It went really down hill the last time I was there and only had about 30 slots remaining/
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May 6th, 2016 at 12:37:40 PM permalink
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May 6th, 2016 at 12:43:59 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I believe that pool is at the CalNeva casino. I have stayed there before. It went really down hill the last time I was there and only had about 30 slots remaining



That's the Cal Neva on the north shore of Lake Tahoe. It's been closed for renovation for a couple of years now. Who knows if or when it will reopen.
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May 6th, 2016 at 1:05:16 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

The latest Chip of the Day post was for the Hard Rock in Lake Tahoe. One thing I have wondered about Lake Tahoe is if fishing is allowed. If it is, do you need a California or Nevada license (or both)? Also, the border between the two states runs through the lake, but somewhere out on the water, it takes a right hand turn from it's northwest path from the Colorado River south of Laughlin, and heads due north to Oregon. Looking into this odd turn, I came across this interesting (to me at least) article on the history of the border. It is funny how the government can really screw things up: .pdf Article on the formation of the CA/NV border.



There was a previous post on a related topic: The NV/AZ Border


Either the casino or Google Maps is off a bit. The dashed line is the border according to Maps.

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May 6th, 2016 at 1:49:42 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

The latest Chip of the Day post was for the Hard Rock in Lake Tahoe. One thing I have wondered about Lake Tahoe is if fishing is allowed. If it is, do you need a California or Nevada license (or both)?


According to this site, you need either one to fish in Lake Tahoe itself; in a lake/stream that's entirely on one side or the other, you need that state's license.

I wonder if anybody has ever tried to sneak a ferret over to the California side of Cal-Neva. (Ferrets are illegal in California, and, in fact, the state inspection stations check for them in addition to banned fruits/vegetables, although there is a petition to put a ban removal up for a vote.)
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May 6th, 2016 at 1:57:59 PM permalink
When driving from Vegas to LA we were very confused when we saw the signs for fruit and veggies inspection. California is just so weird. They might as well be their own country.
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May 6th, 2016 at 2:06:42 PM permalink
From the USDA Forest Service web site

Any person, 16 years of age or older, must have a valid California or Nevada sport fishing license to fish in Lake Tahoe. Surrounding lakes and streams require a license for the state in which the person is fishing.

I've never fished Lake Tahoe but have fished large, very clear lakes. I would assume that the fishing is very specialized because of the clear water and the depth that you would probably have to fish. I looked online and found a number of guide services which would probably be the way to go since they would have lots of local knowledge and whatever specialized equipment that is needed to be successful. You will probably be on vacation so go ahead and treat yourself to a guided trip.

I saw some pictures of fishermen holding some really big fish that they caught there. I read a little bit and saw the record fish was a 37 lb 8 oz lake trout. Hey that's a BIG fish. They probably use downriggers since the lake is so clear the fish are probably fairly deep.

Good luck.

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May 6th, 2016 at 2:33:53 PM permalink
Thanks all for the fishing license info.

Quote: Wingnut

...I saw some pictures of fishermen holding some really big fish that they caught there. I read a little bit and saw the record fish was a 37 lb 8 oz lake trout. Hey that's a BIG fish. They probably use downriggers since the lake is so clear the fish are probably fairly deep.

Good luck.

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That is a monster. I guess my "Pocket Fisherman" is not going to cut it...
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May 6th, 2016 at 2:35:40 PM permalink
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When driving from Vegas to LA we were very confused when we saw the signs for fruit and veggies inspection. California is just so weird. They might as well be their own country.



My suspicion is that this checkpoint is used more for drug and illegal immigrant interdiction than banned produce interception.
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May 6th, 2016 at 2:58:03 PM permalink
Confused, imagine that?
I can fish in the lake, but prolly need licenses for both states ($$$ for out of state 'tourist' licsense) especially if I'm up in a cove that might be perceived to be a 'tributary' from one or more states.

My experience, just mine, has been that if you run toward the dept of natural resources law enforcement employee with a spear while shouting in a Native American language, shouting loudly, that person will jhit their pants and run the other way. Then you can fish. Your mileage may vary ;-)
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May 6th, 2016 at 3:18:51 PM permalink
Here is a picture of a recent catch in Lake Tahoe:



this fish is "only" 29lbs 11ozs.

It must be killing Face to not be able to post here...
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May 6th, 2016 at 4:21:52 PM permalink
Why can't face post? Or just he can't catch a fish like that?
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May 6th, 2016 at 4:43:02 PM permalink
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Why can't face post? Or just he can't catch a fish like that?

I am quite confident that if anyone on this board can catch fish, it is Face. For the reason he can't post, check out the "Is the Miata a Gay Car?" thread.
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May 6th, 2016 at 5:29:42 PM permalink
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There was a previous post on a related topic: The NV/AZ Border



I've been to that hotel with the pool in two states. The border also cuts right through a lounge in the hotel. There might have been slots on the Nevada side of it -- I don't remember.

I think the diagonal part of the NV/CA border is not always at the same angle. For one thing, it seems to take a very slight bend in the angle near Death Valley. I'm too lazy to read that whole document to see if it mentions why. Probably a surveying error.
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May 6th, 2016 at 5:44:44 PM permalink
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My suspicion is that this checkpoint is used more for drug and illegal immigrant interdiction than banned produce interception.


They have been there long before drug importation was that big of a problem. I am convinced that fruit - or, more accurately, fruit flies from across the country - are considered the real threat.
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May 6th, 2016 at 6:02:08 PM permalink
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Quote: Ayecarumba

There was a previous post on a related topic: The NV/AZ Border



I've been to that hotel with the pool in two states. The border also cuts right through a lounge in the hotel. There might have been slots on the Nevada side of it -- I don't remember.

I think the diagonal part of the NV/CA border is not always at the same angle. For one thing, it seems to take a very slight bend in the angle near Death Valley. I'm too lazy to read that whole document to see if it mentions why. Probably a surveying error.



It may not actually be laid out as a straight line due to surveying errors (the article goes into great detail on that because, after all, it was written for a surveyor's magazine), however, it is supposed to be straight. I'd like to see some of the original markers. It would be cool to find some of the ones in the back country, knowing that someone placed them 150 years ago.
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May 6th, 2016 at 6:07:17 PM permalink
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They have been there long before drug importation was that big of a problem. I am convinced that fruit - or, more accurately, fruit flies from across the country - are considered the real threat.



I think it started that way, but the use of the checkpoint has morphed over time. Mediterranean Fruit Flies, Bark Beetles, and Ferrets still got in. I do know someone who got badly rear ended by a speeding driver that didn't slow in time before hitting the traffic jam caused by the checkpoint.
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May 6th, 2016 at 6:29:28 PM permalink
I've been through that checkpoint close to 100 times I figure. The last several years it is wide open almost always. At best there will be somebody to wave to you keep moving. Most of the time the only person you see is somebody in the closed booth doing a crossword puzzle or something.

I would submit for the consideration of the forum that checkpoint is a waste of taxpayer money.
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May 6th, 2016 at 6:44:51 PM permalink
There is definitely someone that is a member here that can answer the ferret question, I won't mention him but maybe he will chime in....
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May 6th, 2016 at 7:17:48 PM permalink
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I think the diagonal part of the NV/CA border is not always at the same angle. For one thing, it seems to take a very slight bend in the angle near Death Valley. I'm too lazy to read that whole document to see if it mentions why. Probably a surveying error.



The California-Nevada state line is anything but straight. That's true of both the southern diagonal and the northern vertical segments. It was surveyed in the 19th century using dead reckoning, which is extremely inaccurate. There are all sorts of jogs in the line. The US Supreme Court had to rule on a border dispute between the states in 1980. California wanted to redraw the line using more accurate modern technology, which would have put several casinos in California (and thus made them illegal). SCOTUS ruled that the original line was the legal one since both states had agreed on it when it was surveyed.
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May 6th, 2016 at 7:22:57 PM permalink
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I would submit for the consideration of the forum that checkpoint is a waste of taxpayer money.



Keeping non-native species out of California is important to the state's top industry (agriculture). But I agree that they've probably outlived their usefulness. I seem to remember them being closed for a few years when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor. At least the ones up north were. But being that it's California, killing public employee jobs is about as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow.
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