State or USA citizen first

Seriously, this as a nation this is what we are going to argue about. A stupid flag? This nation has its priorities backwards. Gay marriage, abortion, Marijuana, a flag, etc, all hot button items when it comes to "issues" during candidate debates. Guess what, I don't give a flying rats behind.

The number one issue granted it might be 1a and 1b would be our national debt and budget, Ala fiscal issues. People need to wake up smell the roses. Quit letting the media influence which party you vote with because by god I favor gay rights and abortion, but everything else I agree with conservatives.

Wake up people. You can't tax and spend. And you can't cut taxes and spend.

Simple solution. Delegate more power back to the states. Which is the way it has always been since the founding fathers envisioned this country. Free market reigns. Federal government provides what each state can't such as military, tariffs, commerce between states, etc. States provide roads, education, Assistance etc. Any time you put a layer of government between the people the less goes back to the people.

people always ask me to identify a party. I say a conservative republican. And always rail me about abortion, gay marriage, Marijuana, bible thumping, etc. And I for one wear my identity proud. I am that a conservative fiscal republican. I don't give a crap what you do in your life. and I hope you don't in mine. But since libertarian isn't really a viable voting platform, yet.

I will always side with a candidate that shares my fiscal beliefs before what I would call side issues. No one will agree 100% of the time with a candidate, but you find thay candidate that believes strongly about your main beliefs and use secondary issues as a tie breaker.

I just can't believe fiscal issues isn't everyone's number one priority when just the US government is umpteen trillion dollars in debt.

End rant. I'm also drunk if that makes no sense. Sorry if I pulled a mickey and offended someone.

In the true spirit of the confederate flag, there should be a poll option: Bigot first, citizen second

Quote: mcallister3200

In the true spirit of the confederate flag, there should be a poll option: Bigot first, citizen second

Actually, all us who do not mind the Confederate Flag are asking is that liberals give the same consideration here as they do to muslims.

Muslims kill 3,000 Americas and the cry goes out "NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD!:

Crazy guy kills 9 and the cry goes out "ALL CONFEDERATE FLAGS MUST BE BANNED AND ANYONE WITH ONE IS AN EVIL RACIST!"

Quote: AZDuffman

Actually, all us who do not mind the Confederate Flag are asking is that liberals give the same consideration here as they do to muslims.

Muslims kill 3,000 Americas and the cry goes out "NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD!:

Crazy guy kills 9 and the cry goes out "ALL CONFEDERATE FLAGS MUST BE BANNED AND ANYONE WITH ONE IS AN EVIL RACIST!"

Republicans control the south.
Its your side taking down the flag :-)

Quote: terapined

Republicans control the south.
Its your side taking down the flag :-)

Why should we? Most people who fly it are just good, hard-working types who dislike a repressive central government.

Couple of thoughts:

This thread wasn't started as a place to post the Confederate flag issue, but it is a much better place than in the 2016 Election thread.

Yep, if a native Texan told me I'd make a good Texan, I'd take that as purty big compliment, and my voice sounds almost Texan.

The thread was started about how allegiances and loyalties evolve over time. How many of you remember when not too many years ago the Southern Conservative Democrats completely controlled the South and all elections in the south. Southerners didn't vote for the party of Lincoln. And those Democrats fought desegregation tooth and nail. Today the Rebulican Party pretty much controls all the south and the Democratic Party 'tries' very hard to claim it is the party of the minorities in this country. And a lot of minorities buy that crap. That's a pretty big shift.

What are going to be the big shifts looking back, fifty or hundred years from now?

Quote: terapined

Rush Limbaugh has jumped the shark.
He thinks the American flag is next LOL

"One day, what is happening to the rebel flag will come to pass for the American flag, too"l

He's right.

Ninth Circuit Court upholds school Flag ban

IC Irvine

SC High School

Quote: tringlomane

Great rebuttal Joeman. But Dan did say "just about any instance"...

I thought the picture illustrated Dan's point rather than rebutting it.

Quote: AZDuffman

Most people who fly it are just good, hard-working types who dislike a repressive central government.

?????
And your point?
"Most people" can continue to fly the flag.
You raise it on your front lawn, thats your right (as long as no HOA problem)
I cant force you to take down your personal confederate flag. You have rights. Nobody is taking away your personal rights

Quote: terapined

?????
And your point?

My point is why do you call it a racist symbol then? With muslims a liberal will defend "all the good muslims" when something negatice is said about islam, why do you not give the same consideration to good people who fly the Confederate Flag?