Time for a "reverse-Ferguson?"
Thus posted a black thug before assassinating two unsuspecting NYPD officers.
Maybe it's time for law abiding citizens to march into the ghetto with pitchforks and firebrands to express righteous outrage.
Quote: MrV“I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours...Let’s Take 2 of Theirs."
Thus posted a black thug before assassinating two unsuspecting NYPD officers.
Maybe it's time for law abiding citizens to march into the ghetto with pitchforks and firebrands to express righteous outrage.
Don't forget your white sheets and hoods...
But either way it doesn't matter. A horrible hateful person.
I think we do need a nationalistic movement in this country. And not a one party vs another movement either, a movements of Americans coming together to destroy the silly rioters with unity and education.
People are free to have whatever views they want, and I even agree with much of the disappointment of the behavior of local and state police, but violence is not the answer, and they have no excuse to mug, or loot because of a perceived injustice.
The thing that angers me the most is all of these rioters displaying communist flags. None of these jokers would last a day in a country where they were forced to work for their living, a lot of people exist because of generous government handouts. And, I am not even somebody who hates welfare, but its ironic seeing people bite the hand that feeds them. And even more despicable burning American flags while raising communist flags. Anyone who burns a flag should lose their handouts.
And anyone who hates America so much that they call for a communist revolution should leave, their are plenty of communist countries that take in new citizens....
Quote: Gandler
None of these jokers would last a day in a country where they were forced to work for their living, a lot of people exist because of generous government handouts. And, I am not even somebody who hates welfare, but its ironic seeing people bite the hand that feeds them. And even more despicable burning American flags while raising communist flags. Anyone who burns a flag should lose their handouts.
What proof do you have of this? I see this canard mentioned about a lot of protesters especially more liberal protesters like the occupy movement and I have to ask what proof do you have of it . Why is a liberal protest OMG bunch of lazy bums without jobs but all the Tea party rallies are labeled as patriotic Americans trying to take back America I mean both are clearly not working at the incident of the protest and other then that we really have no proof on how much they work or don't
The OP did not use the word "white" in describing the shooter's intent, but it got into the discussion here regardless.
The 2 cops shot appear to be an Asian and a Hispanic, both in their photos and by name. I could be wrong, as info is just coming out about this. But, if the killer's intent was to kill whites, he seems to have failed.
The killer also was a fugitive at the time after having shot his girlfriend, had a long record, and I think a history of violent mental issues. Not sure about the last. But they described him as "sick and deranged". So not representative of the Black population regardless of his statements.
story and photos of victims
Quote: TwirdmanWhat proof do you have of this? I see this canard mentioned about a lot of protesters especially more liberal protesters like the occupy movement and I have to ask what proof do you have of it . Why is a liberal protest OMG bunch of lazy bums without jobs but all the Tea party rallies are labeled as patriotic Americans trying to take back America I mean both are clearly not working at the incident of the protest and other then that we really have no proof on how much they work or don't
Tea Party rallies are for one thing rallies (not riots or protests) and are not violent.
And if somebody (many videos of many groups doing this) burns an American flag while raising a communist flag, why are they doing that? Because they want less handouts and less government (like the tea party)? Or is it because they want a Socialist system?
Also, most people I personally know who go to these things, are people my age, who still live with their parents, and live off of their parents and the government, and want to feel like Revolutionaries changing the world. When in reality, they have never held a job (in some cases don't even go to school) or done anything productive in their life. But they are "GETTING AMERICA READY FOR CHANGE" (literally just had some numbskull post that as a rebuttal to me after arguing with them on Facebook). Well when they leave their parents house and contribute maybe I will take their argument more seriously.
Tea Party Rallies are one day events, here and there, they don't camp out for months on end and run around like animals causing trouble, littering, rioting, violence, looting... And it is this way because we have jobs to go to after the weekend. If somebody has the time to sit around to months either "occupying" or "protesting" there is a reason for that.... And I am guessing that reason is because they do not have a job.
I only call for parity in outrage.
If the goofs in the ghetto and the bleeding heart occupy-whatever morons that are in league with them feel entitled to riot and protest over what they (incorrectly, according to a grand jury) perceive as police brutality: I posit that the Silent Majority should have equal opportunity to protest this cowardly assassination of two policemen.
Of course, the Silent Majority won't do it because they don't want to take time off from work for such seeming foolishness.
Quote: scubatim84The sad thing is they call people racist who support the Eric Brown decision yet its ok to say "I'm gonna kill two white pigs" and then carry out a heinous hate crime. I don't see any rhetoric coming from Al Sharpton over this...just crickets. Unbelievable.
FYI, He made a statement hours ago.
Quote:The Rev. Al Sharpton said Saturday he is "outraged" at the shooting deaths of two New York City police officers.
Sharpton said it is "reprehensible" anyone would link the deaths of the officers with the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in Staten
"We have stressed at every rally and march that anyone engaged in any violence is an enemy to the pursuit of justice for Eric Garner and Michael Brown. We have been criticized at National Action Network for not allowing rhetoric or chanting of violence and would abruptly denounce it at all of our gatherings," Sharpton said in a statement.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/20/sharpton-new-york-city-police-officers-killed/20706865/
Serpico states "the police are still out of control, I should know".
Also this;http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-11-02/news/serpico-nothing-has-changed/
"From the article"CBS-TV's 60 Minutes exposed the disgrace of the NYPD; its police commissioner, Howard Safir; and Safir's own commander, Rudolph Giuliani.
No excuse for this killers actions though, just interesting
Quote: MrV
This is said thug?
I thought it was Theo Huxtable.
Quote: FaceQuote: MrV
This is said thug?
I thought it was Theo Huxtable.
It's not? I thought this was a made for TV
movie. You mean this guy is against
whites and killed a black and Asian cop?
That really sends a message. That he's
a fricking moron..
Quote: EvenBobQuote: FaceQuote: MrV
This is said thug?
I thought it was Theo Huxtable.
It's not? I thought this was a made for TV
movie. You mean this guy is against
whites and killed a black and Asian cop?
That really sends a message. That he's
a fricking moron..
2 things one cop was Hispanic other was Asian. Also no where does it say he is going after White cops he said "They Take 1 Of Ours…Let’s Take 2 of Theirs" the they in that line makes no mention of race and refers to the police force almost definitely. This is why he shot two police officers and not two random white guys.
A crazy White shooter ( Eric Frein) gunned down the above Bryon Dickson, a Pocono White cop.
A crazy Black shooter (Ismaaiyl Brinsley) gunned down the above Rafael Ramos (a Latino NYPD cop) and Wenjian Liu (an Asian NYPD cop).
So, it's not a racial thing. It's just some crazy White and Black shooters who gunned down cops.
There is blood on hands of those who demanded ‘dead cops’
Quote: jetermacawAnd who was ordered to protect said protesters as they chanted these vile words, and ordered by mayor big bird to let them do what ever they pleased because they were already upset. You can't make this chit up.
I used to live near Washington DC. Its protest central in this country. Everything single issue facing this country has had a protest in DC. Liberal, conservative, pro gun, anti gun, pro israel, pro palestine ect. Every single weekend there is something. I have rode my bike around many DC protests just for fun. Every single large protest, no matter what side or issue, has vile fringe a-holes spouting garbage. Its America, its DC. Its not only one side has vile chants and another side doesn't. All the vile kooks show up in DC. Every group has them. You can't make this chit up :-)
Quote: terapinedI used to live near Washington DC. Its protest central in this country. Everything single issue facing this country has had a protest in DC. Liberal, conservative, pro gun, anti gun, pro israel, pro palestine ect. Every single weekend there is something. I have rode my bike around many DC protests just for fun. Every single large protest, no matter what side or issue, has vile fringe a-holes spouting garbage. Its America, its DC. Its not only one side has vile chants and another side doesn't. All the vile kooks show up in DC. Every group has them. You can't make this chit up :-)
I agree. Rallies and protest certainly bring out the worst in some people, especially those with a mob mentality.
But, there is a difference between chanting nasty words and actually being violent. If a group actually escalates to burning cars, breaking glass, etc... then that is something that most groups don't do regardless of their cause.
Quote: GandlerI If a group actually escalates to burning cars, breaking glass, etc... then that is something that most groups don't do regardless of their cause.
Unless it is a group protesting Tesla or GM, in that case the cars ignite on there own.:)
equal to whites intelligence wise. About
1 in 5 blacks have an IQ under 75, where
1 in 20 whites do. If it takes a 115 IQ or
higher to do a managerial job, 16% of
whites qualify, only 2.5% of blacks do.
So it's frustrating, and they turn over cars
and act out. Lets not even talk about the
gap between Asians and whites, they will
run the world some day.
Quote: Gandler
But, there is a difference between chanting nasty words and actually being violent. .
From the clive bundy ranch.
Quote from Wikipedia
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that tensions reached a "critical level" during the standoff, "with rifles pointing toward each side."Las Vegas station KLAS-TV also reported that guns were pointed at officers. Assistant Sheriff Lombardo recounted that "they were in my face yelling profanities and pointing weapons," and said, "We were outgunned, outmanned, and there would not have been a good result from it."
Burning a car or pointing a rifle at an officer.
Both sick.
Sickos on the right and left.
Heres a list of people killed by police here this year. Its over 1000.
Quote:“I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours...Let’s Take 2 of Theirs."
Hopefully there aren't too many of his type. If there truly existed some race war, police vs blacks, or whatever.....well, there wouldn't be any blacks left to protest. They'd all be gone.
Quote: rudeboyoihttp://www.killedbypolice.net/
Heres a list of people killed by police here this year. Its over 1000.
What's the point of this?
Quote: rudeboyoihttp://www.killedbypolice.net/
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pQuote: EvenBobThe bad news for blacks is, they are not
equal to whites intelligence wise. About
1 in 5 blacks have an IQ under 75, where
1 in 20 whites do. If it takes a 115 IQ or
higher to do a managerial job, 16% of
whites qualify, only 2.5% of blacks do.
So it's frustrating, and they turn over cars
and act out. Lets not even talk about the
gap between Asians and whites, they will
run the world some day.
This is laughable. Do you believe the rumor about webbed feet too???!?!? I now know I can't take ANY of your posts seriously.
Quote: Dnalorailedp
This is laughable. Do you believe the rumor about webbed feet too???!?!? I now know I can't take ANY of your posts seriously.
+1000, seconded
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/12/19/off-duty-stl-police-officer-shot/20665643/
This is awful, the cop in Fla, had 5 kids. :(
Quote: DnalorailedThis is laughable.
Laugh away. This info is easy to find,
educate yourself.
Rushton & Jensen (2005) write that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They state that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#United_States_test_scores
The black-white gap is 15 points when measured on the Wechsler tests, 18 on the Stanford-Binet. Both tests are, of course, normed so as to produce an average of 100, but the white average is a bit higher. On the Wechsler metric, whites and blacks average 102 and 87, respectively. (Excerpted from A Question of Intelligence: The IQ Debate in America) http://library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm
Among white Americans, the average IQ, as of a decade or so ago, was 103. Among Asian-Americans, it was 106. Among Jewish Americans, it was 113. Among Latino Americans, it was 89. Among African-Americans, it was 85. http://www.rense.com/general79/dut.htm
Quote: EvenBobLaugh away. This info is easy to find,
educate yourself.
Rushton & Jensen (2005) write that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They state that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#United_States_test_scores
The black-white gap is 15 points when measured on the Wechsler tests, 18 on the Stanford-Binet. Both tests are, of course, normed so as to produce an average of 100, but the white average is a bit higher. On the Wechsler metric, whites and blacks average 102 and 87, respectively. (Excerpted from A Question of Intelligence: The IQ Debate in America) http://library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm
Among white Americans, the average IQ, as of a decade or so ago, was 103. Among Asian-Americans, it was 106. Among Jewish Americans, it was 113. Among Latino Americans, it was 89. Among African-Americans, it was 85. http://www.rense.com/general79/dut.htm
I know plenty of intelligent black people. Any validity this study may have is simply because white people value education more than black people. Unfortunately black people have been obsessed with aspiring to be rap stars and thugs so they don't really have nearly as good role models as other races who have far more successful people simply because there's only so many people who will become successful musicians (not that I consider rap music).
I think it's total crap that black people are genetically less intelligent than white people. However, that being said I do think they have done far more than anyone else to keep racism alive and a lot of these incidents can be avoided if better choices are made. Don't want to get shot or otherwise killed by a cop? Don't assault them, resist arrest or otherwise give them an excuse...very simple. I've never attacked a cop in my life, even been arrested once, and all my encounters with cops have been peaceful. It's not rocket science.
Quote: scubatim84
I think it's total crap that black people are genetically less intelligent than white people.
You think it's an accident that different
races score differently on a consistent
basis? Jewish people score highest of
all. Go to the Nobel Prize winners
site and count how many Jewish winners
there are. You think that's an accident too?
I know Asians are smarter than whites, they
know it too. In less than 50 years they will
be running the world, it's inevitable.
consider the source
Quote: EvenBobYou think it's an accident that different
races score differently on a consistent
basis? Jewish people score highest of
all. Go to the Nobel Prize winners
site and count how many Jewish winners
there are. You think that's an accident too?
I know Asians are smarter than whites, they
know it too. In less than 50 years they will
be running the world, it's inevitable.
I live in the Bay Area and there are a lot of Asians here. Trust me they're not more intelligent than anyone else.
Quote: scubatim84I know plenty of intelligent black people. Any validity this study may have is simply because white people value education more than black people. Unfortunately black people have been obsessed with aspiring to be rap stars and thugs so they don't really have nearly as good role models as other races who have far more successful people simply because there's only so many people who will become successful musicians (not that I consider rap music).
The first sentence is not the way to make a point. It is probably true that whites value education more than blacks and asians more than whites. But "knowing intelligent black people" does not make a point. Because of the hypersensitivity about race in the USA, we will never rationally look at this. There are genetic differences between blacks and whites, more than a few.
Quote: scubatim84I live in the Bay Area and there are a lot of Asians here. Trust me they're not more intelligent than anyone else.
All the intelligence tests and data, like
school grades, SAT scores, math abilities,
they all point to the fact that Asians are
smarter than whites. I'm sure you're right
and all of them are wrong, however.
Quote: DnalorailedThe studies that evenbob quote are from white supremacist organizations. He's a miserable old man.
consider the source
LOL! The wiki quote is from here:
Rushton, J. Philippe; Jensen, Arthur R (2005). "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability". Psychology, Public Policy and Law 11 (2): 246–8.
You really think this guy is a white supremacist? You
just don't like facts to get in the way of your prejudices.
Quote: EvenBobLOL! The wiki quote is from here:
Rushton, J. Philippe; Jensen, Arthur R (2005). "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability". Psychology, Public Policy and Law 11 (2): 246–8.
You really think this guy is a white supremacist? You
just don't like facts to get in the way of your prejudices.
__________________________________
from wiki :
"Rushton's controversial work came under attack within the scientific community for the quality of the research,[1] and allegations that it was racist.[2] From 2002 he was head of the Pioneer Fund, a research foundation accused of being racist.[3]"
Quote: DnalorailedThe studies that evenbob quote are from white supremacist organizations. He's a miserable old man.
consider the source
Typical liberal nonsense, blame the messager insted of the message....he's a racist old man, etc. Yes I also know plenty of smart blacks and most of them are the first to be upset at other blacks because they dont put the effort in to overcoming any disadvantages they may have. Just because someone has to work harder and smarter than a white guy to get to the same place doesnt mean you dont try it.
Face it, you liberals have been trying to "save" Blacks for 50 years with your policies and they are in worse shape today then before on almost every measurable financial statistic. But they sure turn out to vote for your guys, year after year, dont they? In fact that alone may prove Bob's stats are correct.
Quote: KeyserBecause of the recent shootings, the ignorance of some black minorities, a racist and divisive administration, and civil forfeiture laws, now is not a good time to be a cop.
Actually it never is. The pay sucks compared to the risk. Its just worse than ever right now. We even have a Cop Hater right on this forum who actually cheered when the 2 eating Pizza in Vegas were shot.
Does the study say "all jews are smarter than asians, all asians are smarter than whites, and all whites are smarter than blacks"? Or perhaps, does it give an average? ie: The average jew is smarter than the average asian, the average asian smarter than the average white...etc.?
People get too caught up on the whole race thing. As soon as they see or hear of some race being superior than another race at something, these people say "BUT NOT ALL _____ ARE THAT WAY".
There are more blacks in the NBA than there are Asians in the NBA. More black people are better at basketball than Asians. I'm not saying all blacks are good at basketball, all blacks are better than Asians at basketball, all Asians suck at basketball, or anything else -- but ON AVERAGE, blacks tend to be better than Asians when it comes to basketball.
I know black people that are smart and Asians that are dumb. That doesn't rule out that Asians (are/might be) smarter than blacks in general/average.
Guess what -- there is a difference between races. Maybe it isn't biological but there sure is a difference in the way they grow up (on average). Asians tend to be strict with their children, make sure they do their homework and study. White parents tend to be more lenient than Asian parents. I don't know any Jewish people any more (I don't think?), but the few I did know when I was growing up, they were also fairly strict.
Of the black people I knew when growing up, I can only remember one family that was strict (they were Baptist), I mean very very strict (kid doing laundry at a young age, many chores, very limited TV, kids set the table every night for dinner, do dishes every night, homework & study as soon as get home from school, etc.). It showed -- the kid was honest, damn near straight A's [in a tough school], nice and courteous, good mannered, etc. The rest of the black kids that I knew, I was often shocked by the kind of things their parents would do.
I'm not saying that based on my experiences that Asians are this and Jews are that or blacks are this way or anything like that. But in my experience, different races bring up their children in different ways.
Take off the anti-racism goggles and open your eyes. Not all blacks are stupid or thugs, not all Asians are smart or doctors. But when a pattern emerges.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxgJq4toYo
Quote: MrV__________________________________
"Rushton's controversial work came under attack within the scientific community for the quality of the research,[1] and allegations that it was racist.[2] From 2002 he was head of the Pioneer Fund, a research foundation accused of being racist.[3]"
Just like I'm being accused. Any time you
present the truth and it's not PC, you get
labeled. Big surprise.
the rankings are always the same; African Blacks average a 70 IQ (only 2% of Whites score this low), American Blacks are 85 (due to mixing with Whites, 20% on average), non-White Hispanics are 87, Whites 100, Asians 106 and Ashkenazi Jews at 115. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3052988/posts?q=1&;page=151
Quote: RSAsians tend to be strict with their children, make sure they do their homework and study.
Such as:
Quote:The South Korean formula combines fierce societal pressure, determined parents and students who study nearly round-the-clock. After a typical eight-hour school day, most students spend their remaining waking hours in private tutoring or reviewing schoolwork. "Society wants us to go to university and graduate," says Ewha student Yun Ji Lim, 18, who hopes to become an engineer.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6293334&page=1&singlePage=true
Quote: rxwineSuch as:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6293334&page=1&singlePage=true
Something like that, yeah.
Quote: rxwineOther potential factors.
The source was mainly lead based paint, was it not?
Just guessing but it looks like poverty is a contributing factor in that arena as well. It is certainly good to see that lead has dropped across all groups. Do you have one for mercury, or pesticides?
Quote: petroglyph
The source was mainly lead based paint, was it not?
On the African continent, blacks average
IQ is 67. In Nigeria it's 70. No lead paint,
it's the genes. They are what determines
intelligence. A genius marrying a
genius often produces gifted kids. A 70 IQ
marrying a 70 IQ produces 70 IQ kids.
You have thousands of years of smart
Jewish men and women marrying only
each other and you get a race of very
intelligent people. Genes. This isn't
racism, it's proven fact.
Quote: scubatim84I live in the Bay Area and there are a lot of Asians here. Trust me they're not more intelligent than anyone else.
I am from the Bay Area as well, and the statement depends on what is meant by "Asians" and "whites". It could be based more on how the children are brought up; Japanese and Koreans raised by their birth parents do tend to be smarter because academics is stressed by the families, but Chinese children adopted by white families probably do about as well as white children raised by their birth parents.
Attend a College of Engineering graduation ceremony at Cal. Something tells me that looking at the graduates will give one answer to "are Asians more intelligent than anyone else?", and then looking at their parents in the crowd will give the other one.
