ontariodealer
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February 20th, 2014 at 7:52:53 PM permalink
sorry to you americans but I'm surprised your as high as 19th.
get second you pig
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:15:40 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

sorry to you americans but I'm surprised your as high as 19th.



You can't do an average here, it's meaningless.
It has to be broken down by ethnicity or the result
has no value. For instance Chinese Americans have
the highest IQ's and African Americans have the
lowest. The rest of us are in between. And Canada
has a lower average than the US.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:18:52 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

sorry to you americans but I'm surprised your as high as 19th.




The correct way to write that sentence is
"Sorry to you Americans, but I'm surprised you're as high as 19th."
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:19:37 PM permalink
And of course ontariodealer will honestly report his Canadian IQ test results ?

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February 20th, 2014 at 8:41:18 PM permalink
I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.
get second you pig
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:43:42 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.


And yet we are the global Superpower. Makes you think doesn't it?
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:45:31 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

your education system sucks.


That may be true, but why the hell would American schools teach kids about Canada???
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:46:22 PM permalink
Most schools have classes about third world countries.
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:52:07 PM permalink
sorry, i hurt your feelings.....more clever remarks please.
get second you pig
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February 20th, 2014 at 8:55:24 PM permalink
No one's feelings were hurt. We just don't care about Canada down here. lol
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February 20th, 2014 at 9:05:13 PM permalink
Who cares aboot Canada....seriously.

It's kinda like in high school when another school would claim to be our rivals -- what a joke. If you are nowhere near competing with us, you aren't our rival.

Betting systems suck, especially if you're trying to impress someone. If your idea is to impress, you do that buy playing BIG MONEY, not some shitty 5 10 20 40 80 160 320 640 1280 1560 3120 system. You're gonna look like a loser when you bust out. If you actually want to impress someone in a casino (wait what the fuck???), you flat bet big money. If you can bankroll that shitty martingale system, you can flat bet $100.

Wait, here's a better idea -- you don't try to impress someone in a casino, that's idiotic.


And don't kid yourself, seriously, you use a betting system because you think you can win with it and are making up some stupid shit excuse "for betting systems to be OK".

USING A BETTING SYSTEM IS NEVER OKAY. (Unless you're counting and the getting system is based on edge not wins/losses.)
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:09:01 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.



Yet Canada has a lower IQ average.
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:13:13 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:13:21 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Who cares aboot Canada....seriously.



This is true. Nobody in the US even thinks about
Canada. It has a tiny population compared to us.

I had a black cab driver who was always bitching
about the white man does this and that to the
black man, he's always plotting against the black
man. I finally told him the truth, it's worse than
that. We never think about blacks, let alone
plot against them.

That's Canada.
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Who cares.



Ontariodealer said he couldn't believe we were as high as
19th. And Canada is 20th.
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:34:31 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

In theory, they should, but in reality, they don't. It's no different than people repeating the same mistakes throughout history over and over again.


Here's part of an 8th grade test from 1912. I doubt anyone on this forum would ace the complete exam.


This is often how many old people feel, that's probably due to getting old and bitter or being stuck in the past. They think EVERYTHING the young do is dumb.
kids then played with a stick for hours, now they play with I pads and the internet. I wish some oldies would find a stick again and leave the internet to the kids they bitch about, but no they are doing what they complain kids are doing.

If you do some research you will in fact find that kids are smarter today then years ago.
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February 20th, 2014 at 10:48:56 PM permalink
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If you do some research you will in fact find that kids are smarter today then years ago.


Smarter when it comes to technology? Of course, there were no smartphones or iPads 100 years ago.
Smarter when it comes to learning about gay history? Of course, public schools today love that kind of stuff.
But smarter when it comes to knowing the plot of 'The Odyssey' or locating countries on a map? I doubt it.
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:05:11 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.



People don't know much about the son who never became king. They know about the son who became king.

Sorry Canada, but when you "ask for permission to be your own government" instead of claim it as your birthright you need to take a step down on the importance scale. The US has been more important than any other country for the last 110 years (to grab a figure off the top of my head)

There are plenty of things Canada does better than the US. However, knowing facts about the most important country over the last 110 years compared to an also ran...not shocking you know more than us.
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:10:50 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Smarter when it comes to technology? Of course, there were no smartphones or iPads 100 years ago.
Smarter when it comes to learning about gay history? Of course, public schools today love that kind of stuff.
But smarter when it comes to knowing the plot of 'The Odyssey' or locating countries on a map? I doubt it.



This is the crucial element. Knowing the plot of The Odyssey is less important when I have a magic device which can deliver that information to me in less than a minute via a well crafted web search. This is why technology skills are more important, because the REPLACE memory skills.

You don't worry about how exactly to turn a cow hide into a pair of boots do you?

[BTW: I loved The Odyssey. I thought it was more fun than the Iliad or most of the other standard Greek canon]
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:31:43 PM permalink
The #1 reason for education (high school and lower) is to teach kids how to learn, so they can think critically, and have a brain that can adapt in the future. It's being able to think outside the box and put 2 and 2 together.
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:31:46 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

This is the crucial element. Knowing the plot of The Odyssey is less important when I have a magic device which can deliver that information to me in less than a minute via a well crafted web search. This is why technology skills are more important, because the REPLACE memory skills.


I agree with you about that, but you missed my point. Knowing how to look up the plot of The Odyssey does not make one "smarter" than somebody who already knows it.
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:35:44 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

People don't know much about the son who never became king. They know about the son who became king.

Sorry Canada, but when you "ask for permission to be your own government" instead of claim it as your birthright you need to take a step down on the importance scale. The US has been more important than any other country for the last 110 years (to grab a figure off the top of my head)

There are plenty of things Canada does better than the US. However, knowing facts about the most important country over the last 110 years compared to an also ran...not shocking you know more than us.




check your history books on wars.


canada 1 u.s.a. 0
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:39:17 PM permalink
Canada and the US were never at war. Unless you count the war of 1812 which is when the US fought a war with Great Britain and what would later become Canada was on Britain's side. Hell Canada was still under control of Britain's foreign affairs department when world war one occurred.
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:42:31 PM permalink
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:43:02 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer


canada 1 u.s.a. 0



There y'all pesky Canadians going aboot it again! We don't want no "rivalry".
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February 20th, 2014 at 11:50:31 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

check your history books on wars.
canada 1 u.s.a. 0



I'm sorry you guys are real badasses:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Act,_1867
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Act_1982

The point I was alluding to was that you guys sadly have never been as important as the US. Hence we don't learn as much about you as you do about us. Same reason Greenlanders know more about you than you do about them.
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February 21st, 2014 at 12:02:28 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I agree with you about that, but you missed my point. Knowing how to look up the plot of The Odyssey does not make one "smarter" than somebody who already knows it.



And here is where you missed mine. Knowledge is not equivalent to "smarts." To use a good analogy from computers:
-Knowledge is useful information stored in memory
-"Smart" is RAM.

You seem to be looking at life in the 20th century mindset. While that is not terrible, it becomes more and more dated by the year. As human knowledge is transferred to digital means, success is not based on recall. Success in the future is based on harnessing technology.
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:42:41 AM permalink
Quote: endermike

And here is where you missed mine. Knowledge is not equivalent to "smarts." To use a good analogy from computers:
-Knowledge is useful information stored in memory
-"Smart" is RAM.


You need to go back and reread the comment that I had initially responded to. Axel had used "smart" in a specific sense, and I followed. He said that kids today are "smarter" than kids of the past because of all the knowledge that's available to them.

Now if you want to make a different point and argue over whether or not that is in fact a proper definition of "smart", then that's fine, but don't lose sight of what he and I were originally talking about.
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February 21st, 2014 at 5:25:21 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You need to go back and reread the comment that I had initially responded to. Axel had used "smart" in a specific sense, and I followed. He said that kids today are "smarter" than kids of the past because of all the knowledge that's available to them.

Now if you want to make a different point and argue over whether or not that is in fact a proper definition of "smart", then that's fine, but don't lose sight of what he and I were originally talking about.

I'm saying that if you took the average 13 year old kid form the 1940's and put him VS a 13 year old kid from 2014. the kid from 2014 would run circles around the kid from 1940 and have him pissing in his pants in every aspect.
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February 21st, 2014 at 5:39:43 AM permalink
Patriotism (noun) - Thinking that your country is better than all others because you were born in it.
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February 21st, 2014 at 5:40:35 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm saying that if you took the average 13 year old kid form the 1940's and put him VS a 13 year old kid from 2014. the kid from 2014 would run circles around the kid from 1940 and have him pissing in his pants in every aspect.


Kids (and people in general) today have unprecedented access to information, but they don't use it to make better decisions. Instead, they continue to smoke, believe in God, and vote imbeciles into elected office. Our technological advancements have been incredible, but people are still people.
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February 21st, 2014 at 6:01:29 AM permalink
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Kids (and people in general) today have unprecedented access to information, but they don't use it to make better decisions. Instead, they continue to smoke, believe in God, and vote imbeciles into elected office. Our technological advancements have been incredible, but people are still people.

the 2 things you mentioned other then, vote imbeciles into elected office, have went down.

I know kids are far more savvy and know more about life in general then kids from the 70's and before.
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February 21st, 2014 at 6:15:32 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

the 2 things you mentioned other then, vote imbeciles into elected office, have went down.


I'm not entirely disputing your contention, I just think it's overstated. I view human progress as cyclical with a slight, almost imperceptible upslope.
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February 21st, 2014 at 7:00:38 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.



Canada wants to come in talking smack about the United States? Please tell me that's a joke.

You are pratically an American territory to the north. If we decided to invade, I'm pretty sure your horse mounted police, and navy made from canoes couldn't put up much of a fight against our jet fighters and real soldiers who don't consider maple syrup a viable energy drink. But don't worry we won't, cause frankly we aren't dumb enough to want to move north to colder climates. Skiing to work isn't the American way of life, we like our cars fast (sorry, bobsleds just don't do it for us), our woman toned (no polar bears please), and our liquor good (without the taste of reindeer piss).

In all seriousness, go USA in hockey today! The women's gold medal prelim ended badly yesterday, so the men need to capture the gold today!
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February 21st, 2014 at 7:08:48 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP


In all seriousness, go USA in hockey today! The women's gold medal prelim ended badly yesterday, so the men need to capture the gold today!



It's only the semi in the men's today. Winner plays Sweden or Finland.

As for a previous post, ontariodealer, claiming that Canada won the war of 1812... I think you'll find that was a tie (no over time or shoot outs). Except the Native Americans lost.
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February 21st, 2014 at 7:28:23 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

It's only the semi in the men's today. Winner plays Sweden or Finland.

As for a previous post, ontariodealer, claiming that Canada won the war of 1812... I think you'll find that was a tie (no over time or shoot outs). Except the Native Americans lost.



You are correct, I was getting ahead of myself. In the USA v. Canada skirmish, it seems like a lot bigger than a semifinal.
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February 21st, 2014 at 7:48:04 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

You are correct, I was getting ahead of myself. In the USA v. Canada skirmish, it seems like a lot bigger than a semifinal.



Oh, it's pretty huge up here regardless. I know people who'd be happier beating the USA than winning a Gold.

Judging by the reactions to the come back win yesterday in the Ladies final, it'll be insane if it happens today:

http://deadspin.com/canadians-freaking-out-over-winning-hockey-gold-is-just-1527201523
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February 21st, 2014 at 8:08:47 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.



That would be like going up to Bill Nye and saying you're better/smarter than him because you know more things about his life than he does about yours...
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February 21st, 2014 at 8:36:33 AM permalink
On the education argument, it's clearly a case of "standing on the shoulders of the giants that came before". Of course we could run circles around our grandparents in science and technology. Most of this stuff hasn't existed for the majority of their lives. But I hardly equate that with "intelligence".

Our forefathers took a rough and rugged landscape and created an industrial, economic, and military superpower the likes of which the world has never seen. They made that. From nothing.

We can't even maintain it.

Who's the dummy?


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February 21st, 2014 at 8:41:00 AM permalink
B9, this I believe was your original post (as it pertains to current vs old smarts):
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: AxelWolf

With the access to information we have nowadays. I have a feeling kids will far exceed the intelligence of the kids in the "good old days". They also won't remain stuck in the "good old days" Fatter yes dumber no.

In theory, they should, but in reality, they don't. It's no different than people repeating the same mistakes throughout history over and over again.

Here's part of an 8th grade test from 1912. I doubt anyone on this forum would ace the complete exam.



This test is made artificially difficult because it is about a century old. What is important today will, for the most part, be unimportant 100 years from now. This test is focusing on memorized facts and lacks any critical thinking. In the current world there is much less value in memorization than knowing how to find the facts and combine them in critical thinking. That is why your comparison is invalid. We don't teach children how to use whale blubber for oil anymore because the skill is obsolete. It is nonsensical to say that folks who know how to do antiquated skills are "smarter" because they have those skills. Similarly, virtually no one who took that test in 1912 ever knew how to use a smart phone, but that does not inherently make them less smart.

Quote: AxelWolf


This is often how many old people feel, that's probably due to getting old and bitter or being stuck in the past. They think EVERYTHING the young do is dumb.
kids then played with a stick for hours, now they play with I pads and the internet. I wish some oldies would find a stick again and leave the internet to the kids they bitch about, but no they are doing what they complain kids are doing.

If you do some research you will in fact find that kids are smarter today then years ago.



I would guess that in raw intelligence kids today are smarter because there have been advances in prenatal and postnatal care. Historically, large numbers of pregnant women behaved in ways we now know reduce intelligence in kids (smoking, drinking, and lack of vitamins). There are far fewer kids who don't go to school today as compared to the past. These are incontrovertible facts. While we don't have a controlled study, I would wager for the reasons I stated, on average children born since 1990 are in fact smarter than those born before 1950.

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February 21st, 2014 at 8:57:30 AM permalink
What is this forum coming to? Here we have a great country vs country flaming war, and the classic who's smarter than who, and not a single suspension yet? Come on, show some passion.
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:02:59 AM permalink
I love how before hockey games, you hear Canada's rather generic anthem followed by our celebration of how our attempt to take them over only almost led to our utter destruction.
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:04:52 AM permalink
Y'all know I was kidding. Not all Canadian men get nice with polar bears, just the kinky ones ;)

Now I got to go to watch the game on my 60" HD flatscreen. Not in an igloo, on the black and white, with bunny years, powered by a generator.
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:31:21 AM permalink
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:42:23 AM permalink
No score at the end of the 1st but the US definitely got outplayed. The US seemed to really have some problems at center ice and pushing the puck into the Canadian end of the ice. The power play was pathetic. Hopefully the second period will be better.
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:43:44 AM permalink
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All the employees who work on tips love Canada here in the United States.



Pretty sure no one likes Canada.
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February 21st, 2014 at 9:44:44 AM permalink
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No one's feelings were hurt. We just don't care about Canada down here. lol


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February 21st, 2014 at 9:47:55 AM permalink
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Pretty sure no one likes Canada.



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February 21st, 2014 at 11:00:06 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I will sit down with anyone of you and tell you more about the u.s than you can tell me about canada. your education system sucks.



I am not sure that US citizens are any less cognizant of Canada than they are of Mexico. It's easier to remember the capital city of Mexico than Canada, even for the most hard core ignorant. A fairly high percentage of adults do not know the capital of Canada.


Of course a 1 in 4 Americans doesn't know Earth circles sun, so by comparison, not knowing about when if Canada became independent prior to or after the American civil war seems pretty mild.

A lot of smart people get scientific facts wrong, and it doesn't mean they are uneducated. In the 1987 documentary "A Private Universe," Harvard students, faculty and alumni were asked what causes the four seasons. Nearly everyone interviewed incorrectly explained that seasons change when the Earth gets closer or farther from the sun in orbit rather than because of the tilt of its axis.
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February 21st, 2014 at 11:10:53 AM permalink
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Pretty sure no one likes Canada.



Pretty sure that's wrong.
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