Do you consider this "Excessive Absenteeism"?

Quote: boymimbo

I don't have a problem with taking a few "mental health" days as sick days each year, especially if I have weeks of working 40+ hours or have a complex challenge in front or behind me. All of my job is mental.

Stop cheating your company out of time you COULD be at work! Tough up! LOL

Quote: TIMSPEED

Don't go collecting Social Security Benefits when you reach the mandated age...since you're not in for that "entitlement crap"...

Not planning on it. I am 35+ years away from the current mandated age. I don't expect there to be anything there when I get there, despite having paid into the system. I suspect, my participation will fund other people's retirement but not my own as it was intended. Either way, I am and will be providing for myself.

Quote: kewlj

Not planning on it. I am 35+ years away from the current mandated age. I don't expect there to be anything there when I get there, despite having paid into the system. I suspect, my participation will fund other people's retirement but not my own as it was intended. Either way, I am and will be providing for myself.

God Bless the USA : )

Quote: kewlj

You folks are getting paid to stay home when you are sick. Paid to go to the beach and rest (vacation). Personal time off?? lol This whole concept seems very socialistic to me.

Being self employed, I make money when I work. If I am sick and miss considerable time, like 3 months last year, I don't make money. If I choose to go lounge around the pool or beach for a few days, I don't make money. I am not dependent on someone to pay me for not working. Doesn't this sound more like the way it should be?? :)

My sarcasm detector is not working properly. Is this serious or a joke?

I kind of find this thread a bit much. I can readily state that I've been one of the sick ones thru a good deal of my life and readily admit that I had taken alot of time off. Having said that, I do not think that it is fair that I be helped with time off while a healthy individual does not get that same benefit. Which is why in my management career, I have always done away with "sick" time and just allowed paid time off. It is even handed and doesn't create ill will.

For those who say "suck it up" and don't take time off unless you're ill, I will remind you that pretty much everything is negotiated and what counts is your total compensation, including benefits. What buckets you put the pieces in doesn't matter.

Quote: FinsRule

My sarcasm detector is not working properly. Is this serious or a joke?

:)

I think I'll call over to Stations Casinos and tell them, I have a headache today and can't play blackjack. Could they send me my sick pay. lol

Quote: steeldco

I kind of find this thread a bit much. I can readily state that I've been one of the sick ones thru a good deal of my life and readily admit that I had taken alot of time off. Having said that, I do not think that it is fair that I be helped with time off while a healthy individual does not get that same benefit. Which is why in my management career, I have always done away with "sick" time and just allowed paid time off. It is even handed and doesn't create ill will.

For those who say "suck it up" and don't take time off unless you're ill, I will remind you that pretty much everything is negotiated and what counts is your total compensation, including benefits. What buckets you put the pieces in doesn't matter.

I appreciate this perspective, steeldco. I am outside the traditional work force, so I guess I don't understand all the politics involved. Just seems a little strange to me to have a guy come on the message board and bi*ch about not getting his sicks days when he is not sick. ??? lol Hard for me to grasp. :(

And now that it has finally warmed up to 50's here in vegas, I can head out to 'work'. (otherwise I won't make any money, as it should be....lol) :)

Quote: TIMSPEED

I just have a problem with someone dictating to me when I can/cannot be sick...especially when it's all covered in the employee contract...

Contracts are usually reserved for independent contractors. Did you actually sign a contract? Or just an employment agreement? This is just a curiosity question on my part.

But, you are right, you definitely have the right to be upset at the company for picking on you or trying to dictate when you can/cannot use your sick time, since you are following things within their rule set. However, at the same time that you have the right to be upset, try to understand that your employer also has the right to be upset. They may have allocated sick leave for your use should you need, but had no intention of anybody actually using all of their sick days each year, and certainly not in the manner in which you are doing so.

By all means, game the system. I certainly did when I worked for companies. The numbers of things I did with health and dental insurance are beyond belief. At the same time, to relate this thread to the website, don't be surprised if the company reads you the trespass act and escorts you off the property. If you're going to count cards and take advantage of them, they may no longer want your services.

I think that if your employer has promised you twelve sick days a year, then they should do their darndest to assure that you are sick for twelve days a year, even if they have to contaminate your work environment with pathogens. No employee should be expected or allowed to take sick leave when they aren't sick, particularly if the employer can assure that they are sick as dogs.

;-)

A lot of women have to use their sick days when they aren't sick but one of their children is and has to stay home from school/daycare. So there is a precedent for using those days when you yourself aren't sick. My husband misses a bunch of Monday mornings because he travels on the weekend but he is self-employed and has set up his schedule so that those are flexible and he's not on salary anyway.

Too many people live to work and not work to live. But if your boss says knock it off I guess you have to.