Wizard of Odds Shirts - Hoping......

In the Global Gaming Expo 2012 thread, we are trying to convince the Wiz to get more Logo'd shirts.
In the hopes of drumming up enough buyers to make Wiz interested, I am kicking off my preorder form. :-D

I would buy 2 XL logo'd polo shirts. I would like the new dry fit shirts, but would take most anything

Count me in.

Put me down for an XXL Polo, an XXL T-Shirt and a WoO Ball Cap.

Preferably White for the cap, I usually only wear a cap if I am working outside, so I would like to avoid sweatstains on my ballcap.

Quote: timberjim

Count me in.

Likewise.

I'll buy a size large.

I'd be in for a size L.

Personalized with your screen name for a modest additional fee?

The Wiz may also wish to have a separate, distinct design for the winner of each Post of the Month contest.

A problem is they are kind of expensive if you buy them in small quantities, like $35 each. That price would already be insulting to resell them at, let alone a little markup for me. What I may do is buy another batch and give them away for WoV contests. Then again, so far the winner of every WoV event the winner has chosen the cash option instead of prize, so I might be stuck with them.

Quote: Wizard

A problem is they are kind of expensive if you buy them in small quantities, like $35 each. That price would already be insulting to resell them at, let alone a little markup for me. What I may do is buy another batch and give them away for WoV contests. Then again, so far the winner of every WoV event the winner has chosen the cash option instead of prize, so I might be stuck with them.

I'll go $40 for the polo, but not for a T-Shirt or Hat.

In any event, I wonder if you could just get a bunch of the Iron-On Logo Patches made from a site such as:

http://www.americanpatch.com/pricing/

(Did not comparison shop, found by Googling)

Then, you could go ahead and just sell us all the iron-on Logos. You could get 50 Size 2 patches for $75, and then sell them at $2.50/each for a profit of $50, then whoever buys them can go out and buy cheap Polos w/o a logo, or T-Shirts with a breast pocket (above which to iron-on the Logo) and BAM! official WoO T-Shirts or Hats.

I'd probably order five (or so) of them, myself.

why not just make a cafepress store and they can sell them as they are ordered?

Quote: sodawater

why not just make a cafepress store and they can sell them as they are ordered?

This. And, I would pay a premium, given the unique nature of the item. Polo shirts for me, 2X or 3X, either are comfortable. And Cafe Press is the way to go.

Quote: Wizard

A problem is they are kind of expensive if you buy them in small quantities, like $35 each. That price would already be insulting to resell them at, let alone a little markup for me. What I may do is buy another batch and give them away for WoV contests. Then again, so far the winner of every WoV event the winner has chosen the cash option instead of prize, so I might be stuck with them.

A shirt would be easier to pack in luggage than a framed picture of dogs playing poker :)

I would totally be in for a shirt. Though I agree $35-$40 is a little steep.

Large polo. Not concerned about the price, this site has saved me a lot more than 40 dollars!

Quote: winmonkeyspit3

Large polo. Not concerned about the price, this site has saved me a lot more than 40 dollars!

XXL, but XL is OK. Agree, price not a concern.

Quote: sodawater

why not just make a cafepress store and they can sell them as they are ordered?

The problem with cafepress is quality. Not that they don't put out a decent product, it's fine for what it is, but you won't be getting the design embroidered it will be screened. And unless you put it on a white garment the color will be dull. And the one off price is still not that great (for those that care about cost).

Cafepress Polo page

I think that $30 for the White Golf Shirt is perfectly reasonable.

I would like one mainly because then I could wear them when I go to the casino, and when people ask me who The Wizard of Odds is, then I'll be able to write down the websites for them, or get their E-Mail and send them the Links. I suppose it may not be the best advertisement if I am losing or playing BJ and make a BS mistake, but generally speaking, it would be cool!

Quote: Mission146

I think that $30 for the White Golf Shirt is perfectly reasonable.

I would like one mainly because then I could wear them when I go to the casino, and when people ask me who The Wizard of Odds is, then I'll be able to write down the websites for them, or get their E-Mail and send them the Links. I suppose it may not be the best advertisement if I am losing or playing BJ and make a BS mistake, but generally speaking, it would be cool!

The current logo is way cool, but the URL could probably be added at the bottom, without messing with the design.

Wiz, I think the crowd here is demanding an opportunity to advertise your site by way of wearing our allegiance on our sleeve, err our breast.

I would rather get a good quality shirt, and a nice logo, and pay $40 - $50 to get you your cut too, rather than try an get something on the cheap.

You have the class of the websites, lets have the class of the gear too.

I just thought of a negative.......
Perhaps Wiz is worried about some of the bets we make! It would reflect badly on the site, if some ploppy wearing a Wizard of Odds shirt was seen playing the Big 6, making a Horn bet, or other bad bets. LOL

I'll cover this when I re-launch the fashion thread, but for now: "Logo shirts are so tacky."

Quote: Nareed

I'll cover this when I re-launch the fashion thread, but for now: "Logo shirts are so tacky."

What about a tattoo of the logo? :D

Quote: FarFromVegas

What about a tattoo of the logo? :D

It depends. Where, how well done, and will you still want it twenty, thirty years from now?

Quote: Nareed

It depends. Where, how well done, and will you still want it twenty, thirty years from now?

I'm not the tattoo type. But I can picture Buzz getting one!

Quote: FarFromVegas

I'm not the tattoo type. But I can picture Buzz getting one!

I have considered a floral-motiff tatoo in one ankle, but it strikes me as frivolous, painful and expensive. So I've been shopping for anklets instead, which is frivolous but enjoyable ;)

Quote: FarFromVegas

What about a tattoo of the logo? :D

Anyone want to bet I won't? I'll get one if I can get enough action.

Quote: RaleighCraps

I just thought of a negative.......
Perhaps Wiz is worried about some of the bets we make! It would reflect badly on the site, if some ploppy wearing a Wizard of Odds shirt was seen playing the Big 6, making a Horn bet, or other bad bets. LOL

That's all you're worried about? I was thinking of getting, "Team Labouchere 5-5-5-10-10-5-5-5 on the back of mine!"

I'm kidding, of course.

Quote: Mission146

Anyone want to bet I won't? I'll get one if I can get enough action.

Wouldn't that fit the textbook definition of a sucker bet? :)

Quote: Mission146

Anyone want to bet I won't? I'll get one if I can get enough action.

Please define action.

In lieu of some of the other threads, action is ambiguous.

Quote: Nareed

Wouldn't that fit the textbook definition of a sucker bet? :)

Sssshhhhh...

I figured if people are going to bet on someone losing a bunch of weight when the parameters are such not to even border on the physically unlikely, then perhaps they would bet on me backing out of getting the tattoo at the last minute!

The advantages of having a great Roman nose are many. One of the best Prop Bets I ever won was in college was when I pretended to be blitzed, (My intake ability is pretty good) and declared that I could take a shot with my nose.

"You're going to take a shot with your nose!?"

"Hell, yeah! I do it all the time. I've practiced, so I'm pretty good at it now, want to bet against me?"

"Why not? I've got twenty you can't do it."

"It's a really tough trick, I need to make it worth it, does anyone else want to bet? I'll cover any and all bets!"

The bets ended up getting up to about $47 total. There was another $20 bet, a $5 bet and one guy only had two singles on him.

"Okay, we need to be very specific so there is no crap going on," I said, "This is very simple, I am going to take a shot in the kitchen with my nose."

"Why in the kitchen?"

"Listen, I'm at a huge disadvantage here, this isn't an easy trick. Isn't it fair for me to get to decide where I take the shot?"

"I guess."

"Now, listen, I can't have any bullshit intereference, here. This trick isn't easy. You guys will be able to see me in the doorway of the kitchen right there, you all have to remain seated on the couches here, I don't want any cheating."

"Fine."

"And no talking!!!"

"OK..."

I proceeded to pour a shot in the common area into the aluminum cup that I was using. I then proceeded to balance a smallish hardback book on my Great Roman Nose and place the cup on top of that book. Walking slowly and gingerly, sure enough, I took the shot in the kitchen with my nose!

"Okay, pay up, suckers."

They argued, of course, but I pointed out that they certainly would have taken my money had I lost my balance. I ended up letting them out for half of their original bets. Little did they know that I had been practicing that very trick with water with that very book at that very distance for about fifteen minutes per day for a week! Obviously, they cried foul because they understood the bet to mean I would be ingesting the shot via my nose...lol

"Yeah, do you guys think I'm an idiot that I should want to drown 300 yards away from the nearest body of water!?"

Quote: RaleighCraps

Please define action.

In lieu of some of the other threads, action is ambiguous.

Basically, if I can get enough bets such that a winning bet would cover the cost of the tattoo, and I think that the amount in bets justifies the specific (not yet) determined location of the tattoo on my body, then I will take the bet. To give you an idea, I'd probably need to profit about $500 to get the tattoo on my ass, and about $500,000 to get it on my forehead. Any other locations pretty much fall somewhere in-between.

Quote: Mission146

Basically, if I can get enough bets such that a winning bet would cover the cost of the tattoo, and I think that the amount in bets justifies the specific (not yet) determined location of the tattoo on my body, then I will take the bet. To give you an idea, I'd probably need to profit about $500 to get the tattoo on my ass, and about $500,000 to get it on my forehead. Any other locations pretty much fall somewhere in-between.

Quote: Wizard

A problem is they are kind of expensive if you buy them in small quantities, like $35 each. That price would already be insulting to resell them at, let alone a little markup for me. What I may do is buy another batch and give them away for WoV contests. Then again, so far the winner of every WoV event the winner has chosen the cash option instead of prize, so I might be stuck with them.

Mike, set up a timeframe for responses (say, 2 weeks) and let folks PM you their credit card info. and their Orders (or do it through Paypal). Then, place the one-time order. If you like the response enough, you could go forward with a recurring apparel order process on the site itself. Do them classy; they will sell to your readership here. Count on it.

Quote: Mission146

Basically, if I can get enough bets such that a winning bet would cover the cost of the tattoo,

And the removal?

But no amount of money compensates for the pain, discomfort and chances of infection.

Quote: Nareed

And the removal?

But no amount of money compensates for the pain, discomfort and chances of infection.

Isn't the pain of the tat, part of the experience? Some might even say the joy of the experience.

Quote: RaleighCraps

Isn't the pain of the tat, part of the experience? Some might even say the joy of the experience.

You mean like hitting your thumb with a hammer?

Quote: RaleighCraps

Isn't the pain of the tat, part of the experience? Some might even say the joy of the experience.

Oh, think of a laser mostly vaporizing pigment under the skin, but also some skin. And the tissue near the vaporized pigment heats up as well.

Quote: Nareed

And the removal?

But no amount of money compensates for the pain, discomfort and chances of infection.

To the cartoon: For an amount that is equal to my regular salary * a little over ten years, it'll be fine.

Nareed: It won't be my first, but my second. I have a lightning bolt on my right hip, it didn't hurt at all.

Quote: Mission146

Nareed: It won't be my first, but my second. I have a lightning bolt on my right hip, it didn't hurt at all.

try having it removed, then we'll talk.

BTW, this ought to put to rest the notion that electrolysis should not hurt more than a tatoo. IT HURTS A LOT! But then passing current under the skin and burning off living tissue is not exactly the same as depositing ink under the skin.

Quote: Nareed

try having it removed, then we'll talk.

BTW, this ought to put to rest the notion that electrolysis should not hurt more than a tatoo. IT HURTS A LOT! But then passing current under the skin and burning off living tissue is not exactly the same as depositing ink under the skin.

Welcome back Nareed. My hijacked thread thanks you. :-D

Quote: RaleighCraps

Welcome back Nareed. My hijacked thread thanks you. :-D

Sorry--I started the tattoo idea. Mea culpa.

Quote: FarFromVegas

Sorry--I started the tattoo idea. Mea culpa.

My apologies to Nareed. I had remembered the female part, but got the wrong one. ;-)
It was supposed to be a lame joke anyway.

Quote: FarFromVegas

I'm not the tattoo type. But I can picture Buzz getting one!

In the Riviera casino they had a big sign " Tattoo while you wait " Is there any other way to get a tattoo ? DUH.

Tats are mainstream now, when I was a teenager the rule was " Never get a tat where the judge can see it ! "

Quote: RaleighCraps

Welcome back Nareed. My hijacked thread thanks you. :-D

Anything's better than logo shirts. :P

Quote: Nareed

Anything's better than logo shirts. :P

Cafepress can make logo thongs too...

Quote: MonkeyMonkey

Cafepress can make logo thongs too...

I would love a WOO shirt and would overpay for one.

Check this out.....Lucky and I are at the Wynn watching some dealer's train on MathExtremist's/SMI's Dealer Bluff game. Dealer's are using clear lammers to signify bets and we are each playing a fake hand with another dealer doing the same. Three guys walk up to the table and are watching and trying to learn the game.

Wiz walks up behind Lucky and I and to say hello wearing his Wizard of Odds logo shirt. The guy next to me recognizes the Logo and says "I go to that website all the time". Then I tell him, you know that is the Wizard himself, Michael Shackleford. He was very excited to meet the Wiz in person and shakes his hand as he introduces himself. Wiz was his normal class act and thanked him for being a fan of the site.

Logo shirts......there are a lot of customers out there Wiz, From both the WoV and WoO site. I see a revenue stream building here and it is free advertising when shirt customers where the shirt into their local casino. That could drive additional eyeballs to the site which translates to revenue beyond the minor profit from shirt sales. Something to consider Wiz....