Why do you or don't you tip?

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Sometimes. My fiancee has her money and I have mine, anyway, then we have money that is ours.

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Mine had her own money, and everything else was ours.

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My fiancee has her money and I have mine, anyway, then we have money that is ours.

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My wife has her money, which she spends, and then my money, which she spends after hers runs out.

But I get to hold it a while, so that's nice.

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Sometimes. My fiancee has her money and I have mine, anyway, then we have money that is ours.

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I understand it for non married people.

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If we ever do have a big wedding, it's coming from her money. JK

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Sometimes. My fiancee has her money and I have mine, anyway, then we have money that is ours.

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I understand it for non married people.

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If we ever do have a big wedding, it's coming from her money. JK

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Why would you want a big wedding. Just come to Vegas and invite your most "Thanked" forum poster.

I don't know why I would want one, but my fiancee will tell you why I want one if you ask her.

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I don't know why I would want one, but my fiancee will tell you why I want one if you ask her.

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To each their own. I actually had a church wedding for my second one and neither of us had been in a church the preceding 15 years.

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I don't know why I would want one, but my fiancee will tell you why I want one if you ask her.

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To each their own. I actually had a church wedding for my second one and neither of us had been in a church the preceding 15 years.

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Best thing about church weddings is you don't have to worry about people showing up in khaki shorts.

What’s the problem with that? I can’t imagine that our wedding will have a dress code for guests.

The most recent wedding I attended (five or six years ago, I think) I was worried I’d be embarrassed due to not wearing a tie, but I truly hate ties. The good news is half of the guys there were also just wearing open dress shirts.

EDIT: Four years ago. I just remembered an event that happened in close proximity to the wedding and I remember the year that took place.

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I don't know why I would want one, but my fiancee will tell you why I want one if you ask her.

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To each their own. I actually had a church wedding for my second one and neither of us had been in a church the preceding 15 years.

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Best thing about church weddings is you don't have to worry about people showing up in khaki shorts.

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No, the best thing s the ministers and priests don't charge you anything.

I noticed that when I load a Starbucks card now, the machine asks if I want to add a tip as well?! I realize it's probably more a glitch of the way the machine processing works than intentional, but good grief. It's similar to buying a gift card and being asked for a tip when you load it.

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I noticed that when I load a Starbucks card now, the machine asks if I want to add a tip as well?! I realize it's probably more a glitch of the way the machine processing works than intentional, but good grief. It's similar to buying a gift card and being asked for a tip when you load it.
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I have worked on many Point Of Sale systems and it is just usually a single configuration option to ask for tips on sales. It doesn't distinguish what is being sold.

The slot and ETG machines at Wind Creek have an option to Tip the cocktail server, however it only comes up AFTER the drink is delivered and the server is half way across the casino floor away from you.

I always tip them at least $2, but it's quite absurd that the machine wants to ask for a tip after the drink server is gone! I realize many slot junkies don't carry small bills and would rather tip out of winnings, similar to table players.

But if I opted to tip on the machine instead of handing them crisp dollar bills, how does that help anyone? The server will think you are cheap for not tipping and probably won't see the electronic tip until later, so she won't thank you. And the house will then be able to track any tips they get, making their write offs a lot more scrutinized!

Or do they honestly expect you to tip twice??

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The slot and ETG machines at Wind Creek have an option to Tip the cocktail server, however it only comes up AFTER the drink is delivered and the server is half way across the casino floor away from you.

I always tip them at least $2, but it's quite absurd that the machine wants to ask for a tip after the drink server is gone! I realize many slot junkies don't carry small bills and would rather tip out of winnings, similar to table players.

But if I opted to tip on the machine instead of handing them crisp dollar bills, how does that help anyone? The server will think you are cheap for not tipping and probably won't see the electronic tip until later, so she won't thank you. And the house will then be able to track any tips they get, making their write offs a lot more scrutinized!

Or do they honestly expect you to tip twice??
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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.

When I tip anyone, I want to hand it to them and expect a thank you.

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The slot and ETG machines at Wind Creek have an option to Tip the cocktail server, however it only comes up AFTER the drink is delivered and the server is half way across the casino floor away from you.

I always tip them at least $2, but it's quite absurd that the machine wants to ask for a tip after the drink server is gone! I realize many slot junkies don't carry small bills and would rather tip out of winnings, similar to table players.

But if I opted to tip on the machine instead of handing them crisp dollar bills, how does that help anyone? The server will think you are cheap for not tipping and probably won't see the electronic tip until later, so she won't thank you. And the house will then be able to track any tips they get, making their write offs a lot more scrutinized!

Or do they honestly expect you to tip twice??
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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.
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Judgmental much?

Could just mean you want the cocktail waitress to serve the next round quickly. Tips should be incentivizing after all.

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The slot and ETG machines at Wind Creek have an option to Tip the cocktail server, however it only comes up AFTER the drink is delivered and the server is half way across the casino floor away from you.

I always tip them at least $2, but it's quite absurd that the machine wants to ask for a tip after the drink server is gone! I realize many slot junkies don't carry small bills and would rather tip out of winnings, similar to table players.

But if I opted to tip on the machine instead of handing them crisp dollar bills, how does that help anyone? The server will think you are cheap for not tipping and probably won't see the electronic tip until later, so she won't thank you. And the house will then be able to track any tips they get, making their write offs a lot more scrutinized!

Or do they honestly expect you to tip twice??
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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.
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Judgmental much?

Could just mean you want the cocktail waitress to serve the next round quickly. Tips should be incentivizing after all.
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Perhaps too judgmental! But of course, if you think your tip is being used to buy better service, then that is sort of sad, too. Implying your gambling isn’t enough to get you that ‘free’ drink. But in the real world, you are correct.

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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.

Tipped employees in Las Vegas make a killing not being taxed. Most servers and bartenders. Most places conform to a tip compliance program offered by the IRS that just tips them a flat % of sales. The bartenders make a killing because 75% of their drinks are comped and they are not tracked for tips given on slot machine payouts where the majority of their money comes from. I know lots and lots of bartenders that work at local bars that are bringing home $100k and being taxed on maybe $20k of it.

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The slot and ETG machines at Wind Creek have an option to Tip the cocktail server, however it only comes up AFTER the drink is delivered and the server is half way across the casino floor away from you.

I always tip them at least $2, but it's quite absurd that the machine wants to ask for a tip after the drink server is gone! I realize many slot junkies don't carry small bills and would rather tip out of winnings, similar to table players.

But if I opted to tip on the machine instead of handing them crisp dollar bills, how does that help anyone? The server will think you are cheap for not tipping and probably won't see the electronic tip until later, so she won't thank you. And the house will then be able to track any tips they get, making their write offs a lot more scrutinized!

Or do they honestly expect you to tip twice??
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In this kind of system the servers will get used to so much of it being from the machine and accept it. The house probably tracks tips anyhow. There is a high chance that the waitresses and any other cash handling employees (dealers, etc) are not allowed to carry any of their own cash on the floor, meaning any money on them at all is house money. Also a good chance they pool tips and have to tip-up to the employee bartender since they get no customer tips.

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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.

Tipped employees in Las Vegas make a killing not being taxed. Most servers and bartenders. Most places conform to a tip compliance program offered by the IRS that just tips them a flat % of sales. The bartenders make a killing because 75% of their drinks are comped and they are not tracked for tips given on slot machine payouts where the majority of their money comes from. I know lots and lots of bartenders that work at local bars that are bringing home $100k and being taxed on maybe $20k of it.
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It's a weird situation. 100k is about where I think a person should maybe start being charged Federal Income Tax (Medicare and SS aside, of course). I don't really care if they are making 100k and claiming on 20k.

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Heaven forbid the cocktail waitress has to pay taxes on her income!

In practicality, they will just get used to getting some (most?) of their tips later through the computer system. If YOU are afraid of looking cheap to a cocktail waitress you need more self worth. If it really means that much to you, tip her the old fashioned way.

Tipped employees in Las Vegas make a killing not being taxed. Most servers and bartenders. Most places conform to a tip compliance program offered by the IRS that just tips them a flat % of sales. The bartenders make a killing because 75% of their drinks are comped and they are not tracked for tips given on slot machine payouts where the majority of their money comes from. I know lots and lots of bartenders that work at local bars that are bringing home $100k and being taxed on maybe $20k of it.
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It's a weird situation. 100k is about where I think a person should maybe start being charged Federal Income Tax (Medicare and SS aside, of course). I don't really care if they are making 100k and claiming on 20k.
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I only care because I am paying taxes on $100k and they aren't. If I wasn't, I would not be participating in this thread.

I have a question. do I need to tip the dealer of a roulette table when I win for example a 100$ bet on a single number?
in Europe I would need to tip the dealer a 100$ in such a case

If you're betting 18 single numbers and get paid $3500 on a win plus your bet back, you may want to slow down that tip rate, a lot.

BTW, I was watching a YT slot channel lady hit the $100 minimum BJ table for nearly the first time. She had a man next to her helping her decide what to do. But they were both playing the Dealer Match for $5 and they were both making a side bet for the dealer on each hand. I had never seen BJ players make dealer bets on video before and I was surprised to see it. But the lady would make a side bet of $5 and double down or split it if necessary and the guy would sometimes make $100 dealer bets instead of $5 bets. They were both betting a few hundred dollars per hand at times, so the $5 bets didn't seem unreasonable, but it was basically throwing your red chips away especially when the Dealer Match wasn't paying much either. So the dealer pays off his winning dealer bets and puts up to $110 - $220 into the toke slot on some hands. After 20 minutes of this, the big chips are adding up. There could be a near equal amount of tipped chips but one batch would be red and the other would be blacks.

I'm so rarely in a place that demands a tip, it is absolutely foreign to me if I have to pay one. Seems like a 20% sales tax or something. For casinos, I've decided to keep my tipping down to under 0.5% of my total ongoing winnings. If I'm up $1,000, I might put in a $5 chip for the dealer at some point. Has that ever happened, no. But I'll pay $1 for a glass of wine, but the server never ever asks or serves me at the Bubble Craps machine; but some others seem to get her around. I'll just stick to my Sierra Mist refills at the machine. I usually don't have $1 chips on me if I'm not at a table game though.

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I have a question. do I need to tip the dealer of a roulette table when I win for example a 100$ bet on a single number?
in Europe I would need to tip the dealer a 100$ in such a case
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When you say need, are you saying it is a requirement by rule that you must tip? Or is it just that you are compelled to tip that much by other forces (peer pressure, dealer will turn surly if you don't, etc.)?

You are never required to tip in US casinos. Some folks at the tables never do. Any tips are (usually) much appreciated by the dealer. WoV member MichaelBluejay has compiled a comprehensive tipping guide for what is customary in US casinos. Going by his chart, if you consider the $3,500 win to be a jackpot (which, IMHO, it is not), then a $40 tip would be sufficient.

Although I rarely play roulette, for me personally, I'd probably tip a green chip in this situation, but I probably would have been tipping a few bucks every so often during my session.

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I have a question. do I need to tip the dealer of a roulette table when I win for example a 100$ bet on a single number?
in Europe I would need to tip the dealer a 100$ in such a case
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When you say need, are you saying it is a requirement by rule that you must tip? Or is it just that you are compelled to tip that much by other forces (peer pressure, dealer will turn surly if you don't, etc.)?

You are never required to tip in US casinos. Some folks at the tables never do. Any tips are (usually) much appreciated by the dealer. WoV member MichaelBluejay has compiled a comprehensive tipping guide for what is customary in US casinos. Going by his chart, if you consider the $3,500 win to be a jackpot (which, IMHO, it is not), then a $40 tip would be sufficient.

Although I rarely play roulette, for me personally, I'd probably tip a green chip in this situation, but I probably would have been tipping a few bucks every so often during my session.
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it is not a must or a law in Europe but if you will not tip one unit of your base bet on a single number win the dealers will try wherever they can to punish you. for example they will not put any chips for you on numbers and when you are putting it yourself they will very fast through the ball and say no bets and stop you putting more numbers.

very unpleasant environment

I tip waitresses, waiters, and bartenders to help compensate for their cost of living, if they deserve it with manners.


I think a casino could make more money by eliminating tips to waitresses, waiters, and bartenders when serving an alcoholic beverage.

Alcohol can stimulate more revenue of betters and lessen their effective money management.

So the casino could compensate for the tips out of the additional revenue.


It would be like a call option on top of the normal tips with unlimited upside.

In regards to protecting the consumer and other citizens, that might have to be risk evaluated before the tips are removed.

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I tip waitresses, waiters, and bartenders to help compensate for their cost of living, if they deserve it with manners.


I think a casino could make more money by eliminating tips to waitresses, waiters, and bartenders when serving an alcoholic beverage.

Alcohol can stimulate more revenue of betters and lessen their effective money management.

So the casino could compensate for the tips out of the additional revenue.

Unlikely. People too cheap to give a waitress a $1 tip for bringing a drink are not going to be revenue drivers.

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If you succeed in tipping a cow only partway, such that only one of its feet is still on the ground, you have created lean beef. Such a feat is well done. Naturally, being outside, the cow is unstable. When it falls over, it becomes ground beef.

Hi all. I'm having much debate with my friends about what is the right tipping amount in Vegas. Tipping has gone out of control in the US. However in Vegas, it's something that we can't consciously opt out of without screwing over the workers or getting dirty looks. With inflation, what are your tipping amounts/percentage for Vegas services rendered? I'll provide my take, and feel free to critique if I am over/under tipping. I'd love to read everyone's perspective.

-Bathroom Attendance (at clubs, nice restaurants, etc) - $1 to $2 depending on how nice they are.
-Bell Service - at least $5 or $2 a bag which ever is higher. For example, if I have 10 bags, I will be tipping $20 for bringing my bags to my hotel.
-Cab flagger - $1
-Cabs/uber - 15%-20%. I usually tip more if the driver is driving like a felon on a police chase and get me to my destination sooner.
-Cage worker - $0 to $5 depending on how complicated my cashing out is.
-Dealers - 1% - 5% of winnings. If I've been playing for a while and I win a $1000, I'd tip $50.
-Drink Service - $2 to $5 a drink. I will tip more if the drink service is fast and if the cocktail waitress has to go out of the way for my drink. For example, my wife only
drinks Mojitos and not all bars have mints. There are cocktail waitresses who will go out of her way to go to bars to bring us mojitos.
-Front desk - $0 to $20. Sometimes without asking, front desk will put in late check out and room upgrades. If so, I do tip them to show my appreciation.
-Housekeeping - $3 to $5 a day
-Limo from airport - $40 to $50
-Restaurant (take out) - 5%
-Restaurant (normal sitdown) - 15% to 18%
-Restaurant (fancy) - 18% to 22%

I won $1,000 in cash at a Bingo game and I tipped the Cashier $50 because I was beyond grateful that I won $1,000 on a FREE Bingo. 😀💡She was beyond grateful herself to be tipped $50. 😀💡

With dealers I start tipping after I get ahead. I play table games only. I put money on the circle and when the bet wins the dealer gets double. The amount obviously depends on what I am betting but I don't sit there and think about it as a percentage. I've tipped ten grand or so in one session, but obviously that and other sessions like it when I tipped that much I was annihilating the casino.

The cocktail waitresses pretty much a flat $5. per drink (this is something non-alcoholic, unless a guest who is with me is drinking alcohol).

Where I am probably the cheapest is with valet - I don't give them anything when I drop off the car, tip a little on each pick up. I am in and out a lot some days, and I view it as they're churning money so if everyone at least tipped something, they'd get a lot, which I think some people tip nothing. If the valet doesn't know me, and is new, I do get the feeling that he feels a little miffed because a guy with a really expensive car isn't tipping much at all, but I don't care. If everyone even tipped a dollar they'd have plenty each day. The exception is at check in, when checking in I give the valet more than just the very small amount I give him each time I pick up the car.

Housekeeping just give them some money every now and then. And at check out, especially if it's a late checkout. We might be staying in the suite for weeks, not necessarily getting service every day.

Where I noted a big discrepancy is you mentioned $40 - $50 for airport limo. I never tip that much. First of all, this is not a private limo this is the hotel's limo for VIP guests I am talking about. I tip $20. for airport pick up / drop off, $20. for limo ride from/to Strip to/from downtown, and $10. for a jaunt that is on the Strip (such as say from Cosmo to Wynn, etc.). If they are taking us to/from a concert or special event, I might tip somewhere in between, $15.

I've actually talked to hotel limo drivers who have said that they don't necessarily expect any tip when dropping people OFF at the airport - because people might have lost all their money. That sounds crazy to me, that someone who is getting a free hotel limo and therefore must be some kind of high roller, has lost even all the cash in his wallet, but I guess it does happen.

Bellmen, I tip the guy who unloads the bags from the vehicle to the cart or carts, $5. or $10., and then $20. or $25. to the one dropping off. When leaving, I give the bellman who gets the bags in the suite and takes them to the car $25. or even $30. if we have a lot of bags. We have a lot of bags but I don't look at it as a "per bag" affair, just I give them the figures I just outlined.

In restaurants I tip exactly 18% of the actual bill (before tax), if you tip much more than that you deserve to be laughed at and considered a hick if it's any kind of class establishment. I might additionally hand either a $10. (two people dining), or $20. bill (four or more) to the maitre d' when taken to our table, if the restaurant has a real maitre d' and not just a random hostess in a tight fitting black dress.

Bathroom attendants are those guys you just have to tip a dollar just because they are there, even if the guy doesn't do much of anything for you. I suppose if you partake of anything he has to offer besides a hand towel, a tip of more than a dollar is in order.

I stopped tipping at the cage when I cash out. I don't know why I stopped, I just did.

Cabs I just round up and give them around a couple dollars or so tip.

With dealers I ask for 5 whites and put a one down for them beside mine time to time. No logical reason, just time feels right to do it. As random as a human being can be. If I am there over an hour or so I will get another 5 whites and repeat. Bartenders buck or two a drink. I rarely drink at the tables so cocktail waitresses do not come into play. I self park and never use bell service places I stay (not talking Vegas) so that does not come into play. I never tip at the cage or sportsbook. I do not tip the maid. Waitstaff 15-20$ though once two of us were kind of loaded and read the coupon wrong. If the staff rung it up right they likely got 30% that meal.

When gambling at a table I generally don't tip until i am done.

I usually place a dealer bet with every bet I make.

I can respect that, but the usual concept that goes along with placing that dealer bet on the edge of the circle is things are going well. While of course the dealer has nothing to do with it unless he's giving you signals while looking up the hole card, the type of shuffler that lets you shuffle track even easier than usual, or something else he is doing that actually does help you, still the idea illusory or not is that the dealer is being rewarded for paying you.

Dealers often use the phrase "money I gave you" when referring to the winnings with which you walk.

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I usually place a dealer bet with every bet I make.
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Serious question…. Do you go there thinking you have a chance to win? If you are a green chip player tipping $1 a hand you would have a better chance winning playing 6:5 BJ than the best game you’d find in Vegas. Let that sink in!

(Necessary reference for this post). —> No matter who wins the Presidential race both candidates are talking about not taxing tips,)

So, if there are no taxes, are you going tip less?

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I usually place a dealer bet with every bet I make.
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Serious question…. Do you go there thinking you have a chance to win?
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No. I play for fun.

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(Necessary reference for this post). —> No matter who wins the Presidential race both candidates are talking about not taxing tips,)

So, if there are no taxes, are you going tip less?
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I will tip whatever I feel comfortable with, regardless of what the tax law says.

It depends. There are a couple of different types of tipping scenarios. One is the traditional dine in Restaurant where a server greets you warmly, gives you free refills, gives you hot food promptly, asks you occasionally how you are doing, gives you the bill about an hour later etc. MOST people are fine with giving this Server a tip. There is the you won $1,200 on a spin and three different Casino Staff Members expect a cut. The one who verifies the win wants a cut, the one that makes you sign your name and the one who hands you the money wants a cut. MANY people aren't comfortable with this sort of tip. In this case, you won the bare minimum to get a Jackpot and the Casino Staff Members just did the bare minimum (Verify the win, make you sign and hand you the cash). 💡🤔

At first thought no tax on tips is a great idea. Upon further consideration it’s an absolutely horrible idea. You think tipping culture is bad now? Wait till they’re tax free. Every employer is now going to pay their employees $3 an hour and demand that you tip all their employees for them. The grocery store is now going to add a tip suggestion on the checkout screen for the cashier. Check out convenience they’ll call it. Buying a new car? Just pay invoice to the dealership but a $300 tip for your salesman is suggested. Lifeguards will have tip jars on their chairs now. Forgot to drop a few dollars in there? Sure hope you can swim.

Tipping is ruining our society.

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At first thought no tax on tips is a great idea. Upon further consideration it’s an absolutely horrible idea. You think tipping culture is bad now? Wait till they’re tax free. Every employer is now going to pay their employees $3 an hour and demand that you tip all their employees for them. The grocery store is now going to add a tip suggestion on the checkout screen for the cashier. Check out convenience they’ll call it. Buying a new car? Just pay invoice to the dealership but a $300 tip for your salesman is suggested. Lifeguards will have tip jars on their chairs now. Forgot to drop a few dollars in there? Sure hope you can swim.

Tipping is ruining our society.
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Tipping is out of control. At Steak And Shake, I chose my OWN items from a kiosk and at checkout, I was asked if I wanted to TIP. 😵‍💫 WHY would I want to tip when I made my OWN order at a kiosk? 😵‍💫

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At first thought no tax on tips is a great idea. Upon further consideration it’s an absolutely horrible idea. You think tipping culture is bad now? Wait till they’re tax free. Every employer is now going to pay their employees $3 an hour and demand that you tip all their employees for them. The grocery store is now going to add a tip suggestion on the checkout screen for the cashier. Check out convenience they’ll call it. Buying a new car? Just pay invoice to the dealership but a $300 tip for your salesman is suggested. Lifeguards will have tip jars on their chairs now. Forgot to drop a few dollars in there? Sure hope you can swim.

Tipping is ruining our society.
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Wait until your stockbroker forgoes commissions and instead expects a tip.

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At first thought no tax on tips is a great idea. Upon further consideration it’s an absolutely horrible idea. You think tipping culture is bad now? Wait till they’re tax free. Every employer is now going to pay their employees $3 an hour and demand that you tip all their employees for them. The grocery store is now going to add a tip suggestion on the checkout screen for the cashier. Check out convenience they’ll call it. Buying a new car? Just pay invoice to the dealership but a $300 tip for your salesman is suggested. Lifeguards will have tip jars on their chairs now. Forgot to drop a few dollars in there? Sure hope you can swim.

Tipping is ruining our society.
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Wait until your stockbroker forgoes commissions and instead expects a tip.
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Wait until your attorney decides to give away his legal advice and work for tips. It is a ridiculous idea. Am I supposed to go out for dinner and tip my server with the money I've already been taxed on but he won't be?

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At first thought no tax on tips is a great idea. Upon further consideration it’s an absolutely horrible idea. You think tipping culture is bad now? Wait till they’re tax free. Every employer is now going to pay their employees $3 an hour and demand that you tip all their employees for them. The grocery store is now going to add a tip suggestion on the checkout screen for the cashier. Check out convenience they’ll call it. Buying a new car? Just pay invoice to the dealership but a $300 tip for your salesman is suggested. Lifeguards will have tip jars on their chairs now. Forgot to drop a few dollars in there? Sure hope you can swim.

Tipping is ruining our society.
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Wait until your stockbroker forgoes commissions and instead expects a tip.
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If the tipping is tied to performance, I'm good with that. While reading up on Oxford, I came across a case where two stockbrokers churned an elderly person's $200,000 into almost nothing while raking in over $100,000 in commissions.

As I was thinking of some examples in that post I realized almost every ridiculous one that I came up with could actually exist already. Tipping the plumber, the mailman putting a lock on your mailbox and you have to put a quarter in to unlock it, tipping the mechanic for changing your flat tire.

Tipping ruins the customer/employee relationship. Employees now are only concerned about who’s tipping and is it worth it to them. Say there’s coffee shop or something. Mr X goes there everyday and orders. He likes the place, never complains and the employees enjoy seeing him. One day the owner doesn’t want to give his employees a raise so instead he says they can put out a tip jar. Mr X comes in as usual everyday but says I never tipped before if I do it once they’re going to expect me to do it everyday. After a week Tom says to Suzy he comes in everyday and never tips. Now Mr X is just a number to them. I’m the biggest supporter of the little guy but I can’t wait till servers and especially bartenders are replaced with machines.

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As I was thinking of some examples in that post I realized almost every ridiculous one that I came up with could actually exist already. Tipping the plumber, the mailman putting a lock on your mailbox and you have to put a quarter in to unlock it, tipping the mechanic for changing your flat tire.

Tipping ruins the customer/employee relationship. Employees now are only concerned about who’s tipping and is it worth it to them. Say there’s coffee shop or something. Mr X goes there everyday and orders. He likes the place, never complains and the employees enjoy seeing him. One day the owner doesn’t want to give his employees a raise so instead he says they can put out a tip jar. Mr X comes in as usual everyday but says I never tipped before if I do it once they’re going to expect me to do it everyday. After a week Tom says to Suzy he comes in everyday and never tips. Now Mr X is just a number to them. I’m the biggest supporter of the little guy but I can’t wait till servers and especially bartenders are replaced with machines.
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I was with you until your very last post. I work in Customer Service and I'd be out of a job if machines replace my position. ☢️

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As I was thinking of some examples in that post I realized almost every ridiculous one that I came up with could actually exist already. Tipping the plumber, the mailman putting a lock on your mailbox and you have to put a quarter in to unlock it, tipping the mechanic for changing your flat tire.

Tipping ruins the customer/employee relationship. Employees now are only concerned about who’s tipping and is it worth it to them. Say there’s coffee shop or something. Mr X goes there everyday and orders. He likes the place, never complains and the employees enjoy seeing him. One day the owner doesn’t want to give his employees a raise so instead he says they can put out a tip jar. Mr X comes in as usual everyday but says I never tipped before if I do it once they’re going to expect me to do it everyday. After a week Tom says to Suzy he comes in everyday and never tips. Now Mr X is just a number to them. I’m the biggest supporter of the little guy but I can’t wait till servers and especially bartenders are replaced with machines.
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What I consider the most ideal tipping environment using a tire store.

Employee does full service. You need full service, so he puts on all 4 new tires and everything is done right. If there is tipping involved it's because you requested he shines the rims and puts tire shine on the tire. Extra service isn't forced on you unless you ask for it. And he puts on all 4 tires, not just three because you're not going to tip him.

Nowadays, you may not even get full service without a tip. If the tip isn't there, you only get 3 tires put on.

The above is not a real example, but just for illustration.