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I am selling a lot of 27 Misc Collectible Casino Chips, including several international chips, that I collected over about a decade of visiting casinos Domestic denominations range from $0.25 to $5.00. The international chips are from Costa Rica and Cambodia. Many of these chips are still "live" -- they can be used in their casino. See the photos for details.

Condition is Used. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254101628632

I am continuing to clear out various items and collections from my business -- one of the joys of retirement.
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January 29th, 2019 at 4:29:24 PM permalink
Interesting - I had never heard of Skiddles Casino in Maidenhead before.
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January 29th, 2019 at 4:31:24 PM permalink
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Interesting - I had never heard of Skiddles Casino in Maidenhead before.

I never went there and have no idea how I got this chip. I was in England for Phil Ivey's trial, maybe it was a gift from someone, but I don't really recall.

"Skindles Casino"
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January 29th, 2019 at 5:31:27 PM permalink
Found a reference to a 5/- chip - https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/retro-1960s-skindles-sporting-club-245261956
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Under new ownership in 1966 it attempted to appeal to a different clientele with many new features including a casino known as Skindles Sporting Club . The venture was launched with a glittering Charity Ball but it failed and the hotel closed two years later.

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Whoever bid $3.14 is immediately my friend.
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Whoever bid $3.14 is immediately my friend.

That is the starting price I set. ;)
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That is the starting price I set. ;)



Shoot, as I count you among my friends already.
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January 30th, 2019 at 6:32:56 AM permalink
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Shoot, as I count you among my friends already.

Please -- evil twins, as previously agreed.

That said, and to not clutter this site with too many auctions, I just posted another --

American Casino Guide Collection 1996 - 2001, by Steve Bourie. Condition is Very Good. Shipped with USPS Media Mail (will send Priority on request)..

I purchased these to get a sense of the historical evolution of comps, advertisement and promotions in Las Vegas. Aside from some minor wear they are in very good condition.

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January 30th, 2019 at 6:43:23 AM permalink
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Please -- evil twins, as previously agreed.



Sorry, I forgot about that.

I'm trying to find the significance of 1.68.

Personally I dump my old copies of the American Casino Guide in the book return at the library, thinking they will go to their room where they sell old books, but they probably throw them away.

Hoping to see something good in an auction soon.
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January 30th, 2019 at 6:49:22 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry, I forgot about that.

I'm trying to find the significance of 1.68.

Personally I dump my old copies of the American Casino Guide in the book return at the library, thinking they will go to their room where they sell old books, but they probably throw them away.

Hoping to see something good in an auction soon.

168 is a VERY important number ... that will be your challenge question this morning. Find two interesting facts about the number 168.

As for the collection, yeah, I'm happy to give them to the local book sale, but I thought I'd give collectors a chance first. If it sells for $1.68 I am happy. I'd just like to find a good home.

I have a couple hundred "rack-cards" for casino games I've collected over the years. What do you think I should do with those? I am about to pitch my "table game rack-card" collection.
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January 30th, 2019 at 7:53:16 AM permalink
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168 is a VERY important number ... that will be your challenge question this morning. Find two interesting facts about the number 168.



Does it refer to the 168 Market, the largest grocery store for Asian food in Las Vegas?

Quote:

I have a couple hundred "rack-cards" for casino games I've collected over the years. What do you think I should do with those? I am about to pitch my "table game rack-card" collection.



I have a whole bin full of them. Hopefully they will find a happy home when I'm in your shoes. I would just give your cards away to anyone who will pay for the postage.
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January 30th, 2019 at 8:12:26 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Does it refer to the 168 Market, the largest grocery store for Asian food in Las Vegas?



I have a whole bin full of them. Hopefully they will find a happy home when I'm in your shoes. I would just give your cards away to anyone who will pay for the postage.



It’s 13^2 - 1?
It’s double the area of the integer right triangle 7, 24, 25?

ETA: Wikipedia has better answers (of course).
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January 30th, 2019 at 8:53:25 AM permalink
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Does it refer to the 168 Market, the largest grocery store for Asian food in Las Vegas?

And why did they choose the number 168 for their name?

For one of the important facts about 168, consider that the casino industry (not the games, but the industry itself) is based on the number 168.

Please no Wikipedia. That's silly.
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January 30th, 2019 at 8:54:30 AM permalink
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I have a whole bin full of them. Hopefully they will find a happy home when I'm in your shoes. I would just give your cards away to anyone who will pay for the postage.

Yes, I'll put a "buy it now" auction on e-bay for $0.01, with postage to the buyer.
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:12:10 AM permalink
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Yes, I'll put a "buy it now" auction on e-bay for $0.01, with postage to the buyer.



Tuck them in, please, as I'd like to see them, if you have room. I'll delete this after you've seen it, since your PM'S are disabled. Thanks.
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:15:09 AM permalink
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Tuck them in, please, as I'd like to see them, if you have room. I'll delete this after you've seen it, since your PM'S are disabled. Thanks.

I have way too many to fit ... but I'll tell you what, I'll pad one of the boxes with just as many as I can fit in.

As far as PM's and deleting your post, please don't delete your post above. If you want to speak with me in private, you can find my email address on my website ijmp.org

Cheers

Note added -- you now have a box-o-fun ready to be shipped ... I await shipping details ...
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My guesses:

168 = the number of hours in a week; all casinos operate 24/7 ?????

168 is the product of the first two perfect numbers = 6 * 28
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:32:22 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

Quote: Wizard

Does it refer to the 168 Market, the largest grocery store for Asian food in Las Vegas?

And why did they choose the number 168 for their name?

For one of the important facts about 168, consider that the casino industry (not the games, but the industry itself) is based on the number 168.

Please no Wikipedia. That's silly.



I’m 50/50 on why they chose that name. I know you are implying open 24/7 (noticed when I made my comment above area of right triangle), but it is also apparently:

A lucky number in Chinese because the symbol looks quite like the word for fortune all day.
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:41:23 AM permalink
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My guesses:

168 = the number of hours in a week; all casinos operate 24/7 ?????

Yes, this was the first reason I had that 168 was important. For me, the other reason has to do with the theory of finite simple groups. The number 168 is incredible important to an algebraist. 168 is the cardinality of the smallest finite simple group that is neither cyclic nor an alternating group.

"The group of automorphisms of this configuration of seven points and seven lines has order 168, and may be identified with PGL(3,F2)."

http://sporadic.stanford.edu/bump/group/gr1_10.html
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January 30th, 2019 at 10:17:06 AM permalink
A nice lot. The Stardust chip alone is worth $7 - $10 in the collector market.
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January 30th, 2019 at 10:22:20 AM permalink
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A nice lot. The Stardust chip alone is worth $7 - $10 in the collector market.

I don't know anything about that. Hopefully two collectors will bid.
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January 30th, 2019 at 12:15:41 PM permalink
X-Men 168 is where Carol Danvers becomes Binary before morphing into Ms. Marvel. 168 is also the number of RBIs I had in the 1991 softball season.

There you go. Two significant uses of the number.
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January 30th, 2019 at 4:40:24 PM permalink
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Yes, this was the first reason I had that 168 was important. For me, the other reason has to do with the theory of finite simple groups. The number 168 is incredible important to an algebraist. 168 is the cardinality of the smallest finite simple group that is neither cyclic nor an alternating group.

"The group of automorphisms of this configuration of seven points and seven lines has order 168, and may be identified with PGL(3,F2)."

http://sporadic.stanford.edu/bump/group/gr1_10.html



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The sigma function of a positive integer n is the sum of the positive divisors of n. so sigma (7) =7 +1 =8 and sigma (8) = 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 15. Hence, sigma (sigma( 7 ) ) =15.

Also, the pi function of a positive number x is equal to the number of primes that are less than or equal to x.


1. Note that: 168 = sigma( sigma( sigma( 1+6+8 ) ) ).

2. Also, 1+6+8 = pi( 1*6*8 ).


I believe it has been proven that 168 is the only integer for which 1. and 2. are both true.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, 168 is the product of two perfect numbers, 168 =6 * 28.
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January 30th, 2019 at 4:55:44 PM permalink
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X-Men 168 is where Carol Danvers becomes Binary before morphing into Ms. Marvel. 168 is also the number of RBIs I had in the 1991 softball season.

There you go. Two significant uses of the number.




I can top that. Daredevil 168 was the origin and first appearance of Elektra, in the first Daredevil drawn by artist Frank Miller.

And, oh this fond memory from my youth, Incredible Hulk 168 was the only issue in which Hulk's girlfrend, Betty Ross, appears nude.
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January 30th, 2019 at 5:25:21 PM permalink
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Definitions
The sigma function of a positive integer n is the sum of the positive divisors of n. so sigma (7) =7 +1 =8 and sigma (8) = 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 15. Hence, sigma (sigma( 7 ) ) =15.

Also, the pi function of a positive number x is equal to the number of primes that are less than or equal to x.


1. Note that: 168 = sigma( sigma( sigma( 1+6+8 ) ) ).

2. Also, 1+6+8 = pi( 1*6*8 ).


I believe it has been proven that 168 is the only integer for which 1. and 2. are both true.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, 168 is the product of two perfect numbers, 168 =6 * 28.

Yes, 168 is awesome -- maybe it's the best number ever?
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January 30th, 2019 at 8:40:27 PM permalink
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Yes, 168 is awesome -- maybe it's the best number ever?



Well, that's an important question that deserves more than a snap answer. We've made the case for 168 but there are some other great integers that merit some thought. That probably needs its own thread.
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:28:57 PM permalink
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Yes, 168 is awesome -- maybe it's the best number ever?



What does it have to do with the gaming business?
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January 31st, 2019 at 8:49:35 AM permalink
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What does it have to do with the gaming business?



24 * 7 = 168 ?
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January 31st, 2019 at 9:35:52 AM permalink
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24 * 7 = 168 ?

Yes, Casinos are one of a very few select businesses (non-governmental) that never close, We're talking 365 days a year here, so maybe a better number would be 525,600 ... do you think the Rent song "Seasons of Love" was really about the casino industry?
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January 31st, 2019 at 9:40:49 AM permalink
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I can top that. Daredevil 168 was the origin and first appearance of Elektra, in the first Daredevil drawn by artist Frank Miller.

And, oh this fond memory from my youth, Incredible Hulk 168 was the only issue in which Hulk's girlfrend, Betty Ross, appears nude.



I assumed everyone would know about DD168. Then again, I assumed the 24/7 thing was obvious.
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24 * 7 = 168 ?



Somebody pass the dunce cap.
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January 31st, 2019 at 12:46:24 PM permalink
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Somebody pass the dunce cap.


Dunce Cap Math
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Dunce Cap Math



Math puzzle time!

What should be the ratio of the height to the radius of the base of a dunce cap to maximize the ratio of volume to surface area of the dunce cap (thus not including the base of the cone)?

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January 31st, 2019 at 5:04:02 PM permalink
168 is 1 less than the square of 13.

Everyone knows 13 is an unlucky or negative number.

Squaring a negative makes it positive at 169.

When talking about luck, fate, or karma, one must appease the gods in order to be favored.

So 1 is given to the gods from your total. Leaving 168 units of good fortune for you.

Cat waving Happy Chinese New Year!

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January 31st, 2019 at 5:05:43 PM permalink
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Cat waving Happy Chinese New Year!



Is waving cats some sort of good luck ritual? Does one require 168 of them?
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January 31st, 2019 at 5:06:37 PM permalink
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168 is 1 less than the square of 13.

Everyone knows 13 is an unlucky or negative number.

Squaring a negative makes it positive at 169.

When talking about luck, fate, or karma, one must appease the gods in order to be favored.

So 1 is given to the gods from your total. Leaving 168 units of good fortune for you.

Cat waving Happy Chinese New Year!



More like the gods take 168 and leave you to get by with the 1. From personal observation, poor people pray more than rich ones.
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January 31st, 2019 at 5:41:49 PM permalink
Slightly easier trivia time.

Is 168 the lowest number divisible by 7 or more 1 digit numbers?

Not counting 0, it is divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,7,AND 8 with no remainder. IOW, 7 of the 9 numbers, leaving out only 5 and 9.

If not, what is, and which numbers?
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January 31st, 2019 at 6:44:55 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Slightly easier trivia time.

Is 168 the lowest number divisible by 7 or more 1 digit numbers?

Not counting 0, it is divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,7,AND 8 with no remainder. IOW, 7 of the 9 numbers, leaving out only 5 and 9.

If not, what is, and which numbers?



Yes it is the smallest number that fits that criteria. Here’s the check: through out 8 and 6 because they are both multiples of other numbers on the list (2*4 and 2*3). You are left with 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7. Multiply them together and you get 168, the lowest number divisible by all those numbers.
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January 31st, 2019 at 6:45:51 PM permalink
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You are left with 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7. Multiply them together and you get 168, the lowest number divisible by all those numbers.

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Ugh. Thank you. 4 can also be removed from the list as 2*2. Thank you.
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January 31st, 2019 at 6:50:37 PM permalink
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Ugh. Thank you. 4 can also be removed from the list as 2*2. Thank you.

yeah well, I think the conversation is actually interesting in that it raises the question of near-misses to Fermat's last theorem, which if you Google a bit is really fascinating and it's something I never thought about before.
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January 31st, 2019 at 6:53:46 PM permalink
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Yes it is the smallest number that fits that criteria. Here’s the check: through out 8 and 6 because they are both multiples of other numbers on the list (2*4 and 2*3). You are left with 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7. Multiply them together and you get 168, the lowest number divisible by all those numbers.


Er, isn't 72 divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9?
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January 31st, 2019 at 7:02:46 PM permalink
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Er, isn't 72 divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9?

hmm. Missing 7. added 9.
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February 1st, 2019 at 11:43:15 AM permalink
The 50 decks of playing cards he
sold last week went pretty cheap,
$21. I thought they would go higher.
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February 1st, 2019 at 12:11:04 PM permalink
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The 50 decks of playing cards he
sold last week went pretty cheap,
$21. I thought they would go higher.



Most used decks don't sell for much. I no longer buy most of the decks I see. If it isn't from an exotic defunct casino, they don't bring more than $1-2 a deck.
Few people want or need 50 decks of cards. Had he divided the lot in half, each would have done about what they all did. In any event, I think this is more of a spring cleaning/looking for good homes type of sale as opposed to getting the very last nickel out of the deal
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February 1st, 2019 at 12:33:32 PM permalink
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Er, isn't 72 divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9?



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February 1st, 2019 at 12:42:13 PM permalink
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We have a winner!


No. It was a trick. He slipped in 9 and slipped out 7.
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