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Ahigh
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October 13th, 2015 at 8:20:03 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

This is the reason that PacMan died:

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Pac-Man-Ken-Uston/dp/1626548978

Yeah, that Kenny Uston.



I read that book, and if you did too, you'll recall there is no 9th key pattern that doesn't require you to turn around.

IIRC, Ken had you turning around pretty quickly and the pattern was too difficult to pull off with any frequency at all.

But you already knew that, and you have a 9th key pattern down, right? And you also knew that we just emulated Pac-Man and suffer from all of the same design issues of the original, no wait, we don't have the actual pac-man game?

Oh. Well, it almost seemed like you had discovered something we didn't think about if you ASSUME WE ARE COMPLETELY RETARDED AND DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING.

Nice try.

I really wish we had more INTELLIGENT conversation on a website named for Wizardry and Probabilities.

Many members here lack even basic knowledge of logical proofs.

I'd just be happy with a modicum of standards for manners around this joint.
teliot
teliot
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October 13th, 2015 at 8:59:51 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I read that book, and if you did too, you'll recall there is no 9th key pattern that doesn't require you to turn around.

IIRC, Ken had you turning around pretty quickly and the pattern was too difficult to pull off with any frequency at all.

But you already knew that, and you have a 9th key pattern down, right? And you also knew that we just emulated Pac-Man and suffer from all of the same design issues of the original, no wait, we don't have the actual pac-man game?

Oh. Well, it almost seemed like you had discovered something we didn't think about if you ASSUME WE ARE COMPLETELY RETARDED AND DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING.

Nice try.

I really wish we had more INTELLIGENT conversation on a website named for Wizardry and Probabilities.

Many members here lack even basic knowledge of logical proofs.

I'd just be happy with a modicum of standards for manners around this joint.

My comment wasn't directed at you or your product. It was a generic comment about PacMan, since the issue was raised on why the original died out. Essentially too many players got too good (at that version), and Kenny had a lot to do with that. I'm sorry you took it as a personal statement about your product or your abilities to program. That was not my intention at all.

As for proofs, I'll have to double check if I can remember how to do that.
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EvenBob
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October 14th, 2015 at 8:27:11 AM permalink
Quote: stv2049

I sure do, EvenBob! Whenever folks are talking about CasinoKat, it's great! Keep it up!
STV



That's amazing! That you can get anything positive
out of that article that basically trashed your
products! And it's not great when people are
saying negative things about what you're doing!
Any publicity is good publicity is not true, in fact
it's an oxymoron! (I have to stop now, my ! finger
is tired)
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
EvenBob
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October 14th, 2015 at 8:34:28 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

if you ASSUME WE ARE COMPLETELY RETARDED AND DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING.
.



Nobody said that! Nobody implied that! But
keep the comments coming, we love ya
Ahigh! Must be the catnip or something!
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
MrV
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October 14th, 2015 at 8:48:55 AM permalink
Whether they succeed or fail, at least they're trying.

Not all of us live by the mantra: "If I never try, I'll never fail."

Keep at it, guys: somebody will hit it out of the park someday.
"What, me worry?"
stv2049
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October 14th, 2015 at 9:15:50 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

This is the reason that PacMan died:

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Pac-Man-Ken-Uston/dp/1626548978

Yeah, that Kenny Uston.


Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You don't need the book.

http://www.mameworld.info/net/pacman/patterns.html



CasinoKat has enough built-in randomness that it's a better test of pure skill than PacMan's pattern memorization:

Random mazes, random enemy movements, random bonus prizes.

Sure, skilled players will be able to achieve above average scores, but will they be able to do so over the long run? PacMan is analogous to Video Poker with regards to a player's ability to Advantage Play.

CasinoKat does not suffer from the same game design flaws. It isn't puuurrrfect, but it's pretty good!

STV
-- Stephen Riesenberger Creative Director, Game Designer NanoTech Gaming
AxelWolf
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October 14th, 2015 at 9:47:11 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Quote: teliot

From a commentary by Jeff Hwang in The Motley Fool

"Radical Plays: Vegas Pinball 2047 (NanoTech Gaming)

Las Vegas-based NanoTech Gaming made a bit of a splash last year when it introduced its Vegas Pinball 2047 game at G2E 2014. Vegas Pinball 2047 bypasses slot play entirely and is a straight pinball game played on a nifty “steampunk”-styled pinball cabinet with physical buttons for gameplay, but on an electronic screen.

The pinball game itself requires no explanation; the key is how wagering is implemented, because it is quite complex, while the outcome is still largely random."


Continued here ...



So it looks like the writer says the same thing we've been saying here for over a year...



ZCore13

save me the time please and tell us here. thank you in advance.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
superrick
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October 14th, 2015 at 10:39:37 AM permalink
When it comes to trying to cut down someone, some of you guys aren't even getting close!

Ahigh and crew was ahead of the rest of the field when it came to developing the skill base game. When you read this thread it sounds like some just don't get it. The skill base games are coming, Ahigh is one of the guys on the forefront of developing game of this type!

Development of skill-based games is altering casinos’ strategies

http://vegasinc.com/business/gaming/2015/oct/13/casinos-skill-based-games-customers-las-vegas/
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
EvenBob
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October 14th, 2015 at 11:54:02 AM permalink
Here's why I don't like the idea of skill based
casino games. It's another casino trick, part
of their smoke and mirrors plan. C'mon in,
we now have games where you can get ahead
and stay ahead of the casino if you have enough
skill! Bullcrap.

There is already a skill based game, it's called card
counting BJ. How does the casino react to those
skill based players? They used to beat them up and
break their legs. They can't do that anymore, so
now they just ban them for life. That's what casinos
think of a player who has a paltry 1% edge on
them.

And now you want us to believe they will allow real
skill based machines on the floor, that you can get
ahead on? Sure they will, wink wink. They will never,
I repeat never, allow a game in a casino where you
can get ahead and stay ahead by using skill. Never.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
sabre
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October 14th, 2015 at 12:02:33 PM permalink
But they will allow a game where your skill can make it a 99% game instead of a 90% game. Or a skill based game played against others where the house is taking a rake. Skill based gaming doesn't have to equal player advantage over the house.

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