ThatDonGuy
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:13:55 PM permalink
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Actually, I am a little surprised this is a problem, considering that PHOF is now in a pretty much out-of-the-way place unless you happen to be in the area (say, to get a picture at the Welcome To Las Vegas sign).
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM permalink
The banks are out of quarters, otherwise this wouldn't be a problem.
Arcades in the past would switch to tokens. You'd get an extra dollar of tokens if you put in a $5 bill. But if there's not much return traffic because it's a tourist spot, they should stick to quarters & dimes.
They mentioned using a card to put credits on the machines. I have no idea how that would work. Every machine would have wi-fi or blue tooth? I don't get it.
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:29:30 PM permalink
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I don't know...


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oops...
Actually, I am a little surprised this is a problem, considering that PHOF is now in a pretty much out-of-the-way place unless you happen to be in the area (say, to get a picture at the Welcome To Las Vegas sign).
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I think it is more visible at its new location than in its old location. How many tourists drove by it's location on Tropicana, a few miles east of the strip?
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:31:41 PM permalink
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They mentioned using a card to put credits on the machines. I have no idea how that would work. Every machine would have wi-fi or blue tooth? I don't get it.
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Coin acceptors and bill acceptors can be readily retrofitted with modern electronics.
Many soda vending machines now accept credit cards; the retrofit hardware can be easily fit to most venders that were designed to accept bill acceptors.
Places like Chuck E. Cheese (probably now gone) and Dave & Busters already have amusements that are credited with an in-house card.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:36:39 PM permalink
Unless people are walking away with the quarters, the POH should be pretty much a closed environment with the quarters in the machines at the closing equalling the amount distributed in the day. How difficult can it be to empty the machines more often?
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:39:20 PM permalink
Unless people are walking away with the quarters, the POH should be pretty much a closed environment with the quarters in the machines at the closing equalling the amount distributed in the day. How difficult can it be to empty the machines more often?
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November 21st, 2021 at 12:55:58 PM permalink
People are walking away with the quarters, as evidenced by the unusual amount of $20 bills in the change machines. Even then it wouldn't be a problem except the PHOF would have to go to the bank to get more quarters. In this post-9/11 country, you can't even get change at a bank without an account there. If the bank the PHOF banks at is out of quarters, or rationing quarters severely, the PHOF will have a hard time keeping their doors open. Banks could choose to give you anywhere from 0 to 5 rolls of quarters. If your business needs $500 of quarters a week, it's gonna take a lot of creative banking to get it. If your TITO machines needs $1000's of dollars of coins a night, just put an "out of order" sign on it.

People are noticing a toilet paper shortage again too. Get a years' supply.
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November 21st, 2021 at 1:29:29 PM permalink
I'm having a hard time believing there is a problem at the place with people walking out with hundreds of dollars worth of quarters. As Judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true.
How many businesses need that much change in the first place, and it would be very simple to identify the few people who might do that.
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November 21st, 2021 at 1:36:21 PM permalink
Judge Judy isn't there, but the TV news station is there. Get your time slots right.
Grocery stores, laundromats, arcades, casinos, etc. they all need lots of coins, which the banks are clearly not giving out in many parts of the country. This is why the self service lanes took out the cash option and only accept plastic. Of course the money could have the plague on it and that's a better reason to go to plastic. Banks are shuttering branches nationwide at an alarming rate, and credit cards are getting cancelled for no reason with no notice. I'm wondering what plastic will be left in a year.
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November 21st, 2021 at 1:37:22 PM permalink
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I'm having a hard time believing there is a problem at the place with people walking out with hundreds of dollars worth of quarters. As Judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true.
How many businesses need that much change in the first place, and it would be very simple to identify the few people who might do that.
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Nobody is walking out with $100 worth of quarters by themselves. However, if enough people "walk out" with $20 worth of quarters, the problem is just as bad. Of course, part of the problem could be that $20 bills are all that a lot of people have, but they're not going to play $20 worth of pinball, even if the newest machines are $1/play.

The obvious solution to me would be, switch to tokens. However, this could cause another problem; what if somebody wants to play, but doesn't want to play $20 worth of pinball, and all they have are $20 bills? Another possible solution: ask people to convert their unused quarters back to bills - there's usually somebody behind the counter (selling T-shirts) who could do this.

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