BedWetterBetter
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June 25th, 2019 at 3:49:15 PM permalink
Recently, I was made aware of a situation that occurred on a Panorama Bus to Atlantic City. An Elderly passenger was banned from riding the bus due to his inability to control his bladder. He was a regular, who rode the bus everyday from Union, NJ to AC and either wore an adult diaper or a colostomy bag and reeked of urine.

People would hold their nose as he walked down the aisle and used the bathroom on the bus. After a while, people got used to the routine and it was no big deal. That is, until last Saturday when it got worse. I have ridden with this man before and would keep a bottle of vapor rub to bury my nose in whenever he walked by. So I dealt it with it that way. He would also be accompanied every time by his elderly sister, who either couldn't smell or was used to it.

But on this fine Saturday, which I was not party to, it became unbearable and the smell of rotting flesh & feces took over his clothes. As he walked up and down the aisle, people became nauseas, gagging, vomiting and dry heaving, the whole trip. The driver cranked up the air, opened windows and tried his best to remedy the stench, but to no avail.

The man would go sit in the back, and change seats throughout the trip, undoubtedly leaving stains on the seats and spreading germs. So a handful or riders called the company and demanded refunds or that this man be prevented from riding the bus in the future. The company since has stopped him from taking the bus until he could be free of the germs and odor.

Is he able to sue the company for discrimination or are they correct in banishing him from riding the bus due to the potential health risk?
Boz
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June 25th, 2019 at 4:00:18 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Recently, I was made aware of a situation that occurred on a Panorama Bus to Atlantic City. An Elderly passenger was banned from riding the bus due to his inability to control his bladder. He was a regular, who rode the bus everyday from Union, NJ to AC and either wore an adult diaper or a colostomy bag and reeked of urine.

People would hold their nose as he walked down the aisle and used the bathroom on the bus. After a while, people got used to the routine and it was no big deal. That is, until last Saturday when it got worse. I have ridden with this man before and would keep a bottle of vapor rub to bury my nose in whenever he walked by. So I dealt it with it that way. He would also be accompanied every time by his elderly sister, who either couldn't smell or was used to it.

But on this fine Saturday, which I was not party to, it became unbearable and the smell of rotting flesh & feces took over his clothes. As he walked up and down the aisle, people became nauseas, gagging, vomiting and dry heaving, the whole trip. The driver cranked up the air, opened windows and tried his best to remedy the stench, but to no avail.

The man would go sit in the back, and change seats throughout the trip, undoubtedly leaving stains on the seats and spreading germs. So a handful or riders called the company and demanded refunds or that this man be prevented from riding the bus in the future. The company since has stopped him from taking the bus until he could be free of the germs and odor.

Is he able to sue the company for discrimination or are they correct in banishing him from riding the bus due to the potential health risk?



Iím going to assume this is a legitimate post. Iím also going to assume DarkOz isnít the person in question.

So the simple answer is the guy deserves a seat on the bus and everyone riding it gets exactly what they deserve for riding the bus. Remember, everyone is equal in the liberal America todayís freaks want.
darkoz
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June 25th, 2019 at 4:27:09 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Iím going to assume this is a legitimate post. Iím also going to assume DarkOz isnít the person in question.

So the simple answer is the guy deserves a seat on the bus and everyone riding it gets exactly what they deserve for riding the bus. Remember, everyone is equal in the liberal America todayís freaks want.



I got a good laugh out of that

No it wasnt me.

Curious, while reading about this incontinent person I glanced at who the poster was and laughed out loud to see it was BedWetterBetter.

Things that make you go Hmmmm?

Anyway, its a business and if there were complaints from other customers they have the right to deny service.

Since this bus services NJ, there might be some legal recourse as they have different and more liberal rules about banning customers but it probably would depend on where the bus originated and where the company business offices are.

Best thing is to contact an attorney versus asking for advice on here
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gordonm888
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June 25th, 2019 at 5:21:04 PM permalink
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Is he able to sue the company for discrimination or are they correct in banishing him from riding the bus due to the potential health risk?



Yes and Yes.

He may be able to sue the company for discrimination in a Federal Court if his condition qualifies him for protected status as created by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), but I believe he would be likely to lose a lawsuit. The bus company has indeed been making a reasonable accomodation for him - but allowing him to continue to stain seats with bodily wastes is NOT reasonable. I think they were correct in banishing him, especially if they have received complaints from customers.

The bus company may also assume (and perhaps rightly so) that the risk of a Federal Lawsuit is relatively small given the man's medical condition (or at least his apparent symptoms) and his apparent poverty. If he appears in court smelling as bad as you allege, the hearing would be postponed and the judge would chew out his lawyer.
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June 25th, 2019 at 5:38:10 PM permalink
There's all kinds of precedent in favor of public transportation companies having the right to deny boarding for personal hygiene, intoxication, other stuff, and I don't see the ADA being able to successfully defend a filthy person. As a transportation company, I wouldn't want to be the recipient of such a lawsuit, but that wouldn't stop me from denying passage.

The gate agent that allowed him to board the bus did not do their job. It wasn't discrimination based on race, gender, or other protected classes, so perhaps ADA is an avenue, but I really doubt actively dripping fecal matter or urine in close quarters for voluntary travel is going to be a qualifying or winning condition.

If I were one of the OTHER people forced to endure the company of this person, I would rate my chances of damages somewhat higher. A lot would depend on the company's published or internal code of operations.
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MaxPen
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June 25th, 2019 at 5:48:07 PM permalink
Par for the course I imagine. That's a pretty tame bus tale.







darkoz
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June 25th, 2019 at 6:04:04 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Par for the course I imagine. That's a pretty tame bus tale.









Those photos look staged.

Anti-bus people will go to any length.

I can probably show you thousands of car photos of people dead from accidents or road rage.

Or videos of APs being attacked in casinos

Doesn't mean anything really. No one really decides their plans based on random YouTube videos or internet pics
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Ayecarumba
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June 25th, 2019 at 6:23:45 PM permalink
I'm pretty sure the only bus photo might be the guy with the pig. The others look like trains.
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darkoz
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June 25th, 2019 at 6:25:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I'm pretty sure the only bus photo might be the guy with the pig. The others look like trains.



I doubt Maxpen knows the difference
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MaxPen
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June 25th, 2019 at 8:35:53 PM permalink
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I doubt Maxpen knows the difference



Probably not but I think the train is supposed to be more upscale than the subway and then comes the bus in last place for preferred methods of public transportation. I'm pretty darn sure the bus is at the top of the sketchy transportation list.

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