FleaStiff
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March 19th, 2018 at 5:47:48 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Not a slot or V P player, but at what multiplier does your play become positive EV? Do you just go there and see if you hit a high enough multiplier to make it positive EV? And if you don't you just leave?

I doubt the goal is really a positive EV; its more a "less negative" EV. I've seen various "regular" multiplier deals such as 5x on a certain day or 5x for Seniors. There are also some higher 'x's from time to time and spinners usually go up to ten whether they are physical or electronic spinners. I saw one promotion at 15x in one of those outlying casinos in Nevada but don't recall which one. I rarely play slots and usually only as a "break" activity.

Its a strange managerial decision but its not all that shocking. It could be that publicity preceded the notice to the programmers or something.
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March 19th, 2018 at 5:48:02 AM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

March 18 2018 was advertised as a 2x-100x Comp Multiplier Day on both the Total Rewards Website and App. Swipe any kiosk at Ballys, Caesars or Harrahs Atlantic city to find what your Mystery Multiplier will be.

So I made the trip out to Caesars to get my "reward." Normally for these giveaways require you go to bank of Kiosks and swipe & the mystery multiplier gives you an amount like 3x, 10x , 25x, etc.

However, the machines did not have anything on the screens, which was odd. So I swiped at the activated kiosks, but did not see anything regarding the multiplier. I then go to the TR center to ask where do we get the offer that was promised to us. Only to be told, there is no multiplier promotion and it was cancelled at Management's discretion...

I was in no mood to hear their excuses, so I promptly told them I will be gaming at Tropicana from now on because of this. I just can't believe they would do such a low thing and it really doesn't cost them anything, so why rescind the offer?

Were they comp vultures who were raking in thousands of credits through some dastardly means or has CET just figured they can screw with people and outright lie just to get them in the building?

that totally sucks! I would be pissed too.
complain to the gaming commission?
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March 19th, 2018 at 6:14:46 AM permalink
Good luck on your next session at a Caesar's property.
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March 19th, 2018 at 6:18:49 AM permalink
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To be honest, I am talking about the people who go to the kiosk first thing. For the people who already were playing and then decided to go to the kiosk later(I do this myself at times) they also would be pissed to see their good offer has been canceled without their knowledge. They just might cash out and stop playing altogether or continue playing but spread bad word of mouth later on through social media(Hello Facebook and Twitter) gambling websites, such as WOV like this very thread, ;)) websites such as Trip Advisor, Yelp, etc, and just actual bad talking to their friends and family. They'll lose revenue in the short run by rescinding offers without letting people know until they are already in the building.



That...was a good post. Casinos that offer stuff like this to get people in the door only to renege should be outed in any way possible so that hopefully the bad publicity prevents them from pulling the bait & switch (bait and nothing in this case) in the future.

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March 19th, 2018 at 8:09:38 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That...was a good post. Casinos that offer stuff like this to get people in the door only to renege should be outed in any way possible so that hopefully the bad publicity prevents them from pulling the bait & switch (bait and nothing in this case) in the future.

I知 not exactly sure what this feeling is, Nathan. I think I知 proud of you. I知 pretty sure that痴 what this is. Good post.



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March 19th, 2018 at 3:38:59 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

complain to the gaming commission?

ABSOLUTELY, you should complain to the Gaming Commission in writing. If you do not hear back in a reasonable amount of time, you should follow-up. If you are a NJ resident, I would start copying my state senator with the first follow-up. It may not accomplish very much, but it is worth a try.
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March 19th, 2018 at 3:45:08 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That...was a good post. Casinos that offer stuff like this to get people in the door only to renege should be outed in any way possible so that hopefully the bad publicity prevents them from pulling the bait & switch (bait and nothing in this case) in the future.

I知 not exactly sure what this feeling is, Nathan. I think I知 proud of you. I知 pretty sure that痴 what this is. Good post.



Thank you Mission for the compliments. They mean a lot to me coming from you. :)
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March 19th, 2018 at 7:07:27 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

ABSOLUTELY, you should complain to the Gaming Commission in writing. If you do not hear back in a reasonable amount of time, you should follow-up. If you are a NJ resident, I would start copying my state senator with the first follow-up. It may not accomplish very much, but it is worth a try.



Unfortunately it would do no good. They always put the disclaimer at the bottom: Management has the right to refuse or rescind any offer or giveaway.

I'm thinking there are hackers or comp vultures who have found out how get more out of the multipliers with little play on their card. I know a few characters in Caesars who will either sit at the slots and find someone playing without a players card and ask to use their TR card instead of nothing.

There's an older, middle-eastern guy who is there EVERY WEEK pulling the same stunt. He sits down at the table with a decent buy in of $300-$500 and will play the first hand of a Blackjack shoe or 3 Card poker round. He waits for the floor person to walk away from the computer and will immediately stop playing and sit there for the rest of the shoe. I'm sure by now management has figured him out and pauses his play when he does this. But if there is a newer floor person or it is a busy weekend night, they probably just let it go and let him rack up points with minimal play.

So it may be a case of a few bad apples ruining it for everybody. Or it's likely that CET wanted to do a dry run in preparation of some bigger giveaway scheme, that they may or may not follow through on in the future.
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March 19th, 2018 at 7:10:39 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

March 18 2018 was advertised as a 2x-100x Comp Multiplier Day on both the Total Rewards Website and App. Swipe any kiosk at Ballys, Caesars or Harrahs Atlantic city to find what your Mystery Multiplier will be.

So I made the trip out to Caesars to get my "reward." Normally for these giveaways require you go to bank of Kiosks and swipe & the mystery multiplier gives you an amount like 3x, 10x , 25x, etc.

However, the machines did not have anything on the screens, which was odd. So I swiped at the activated kiosks, but did not see anything regarding the multiplier. I then go to the TR center to ask where do we get the offer that was promised to us. Only to be told, there is no multiplier promotion and it was cancelled at Management's discretion...

I was in no mood to hear their excuses, so I promptly told them I will be gaming at Tropicana from now on because of this. I just can't believe they would do such a low thing and it really doesn't cost them anything, so why rescind the offer?

Were they comp vultures who were raking in thousands of credits through some dastardly means or has CET just figured they can screw with people and outright lie just to get them in the building?



That's just disgusting. It's basically bad faith. I don't know why people are still willing to put money on deposit and gamble there.
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March 19th, 2018 at 7:17:21 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You were lying when you said you were going to the Tropicana right?

They are notorious for reneging on promised offers

Trust me if that's where you are heading you will soon be starting a thread praising the wonderful casinos of CET



Not at all, I went right to Trop picked up my Gift of a Tumbler played for an hour and left $250 ahead.

I can appreciate that you've had bad experiences with Trop, but I personally have not. Heck, they at least have the guts to tell you that "Gift Redemption without further play will result in Rescinding of future offers." So it isn't as big of shock and you at least have the ability to save yourself from losing future offers.

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