Wizardofnothing
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July 16th, 2016 at 4:49:40 AM permalink
This is why the world has terrorists to some extent- you just can't convince some people that there are not 700 virgins waiting for them in heaven if they kill in the name of god
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JoelDeze
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July 16th, 2016 at 7:25:39 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

This is why the world has terrorists to some extent- you just can't convince some people that there are not 700 virgins waiting for them in heaven if they kill in the name of god



Terrorism has nothing to do with craps. It is almost impossible to have discussion and open debate on a specific topic without someone throwing ignorant statements into the mix. Either stay on topic or move on. I shouldn't even have to respond to this comment.
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pingclassic
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July 16th, 2016 at 9:07:29 AM permalink
I probably love craps as much as anyone and have played A LOT! I have seen every kind of roll imaginable and have personally had 2 1 hour rolls throwing fairly random. I have yet to see a dice setter do me any favors really. I have though, a lot times had some young girl who never has played in her life and she will go through 2 stick changes! As much as i would love to believe in going to say not possible. But by all means if you can prove other wise come out do vegas lets team up!........we can find empty tables all the time where you can have the dice for hours, and if what you say is true......IM RETIRED!
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Ibeatyouraces
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July 16th, 2016 at 9:33:16 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

No, it is an opinion. Your logic is tested on paper and not on person. I know every bit of the math behind craps and the 7 never matches the probability for me. That is a fact. Over a 4-month period.

Your rebuttal is easy to see. Wait another 4 months. Wait another year. When a year comes up it will be wait another year again.

Math has to be accountable on multiple levels. You can build a game based on probability and APs will still take advantage of those games. Everyone here knows there are APs in many games. But, talk about craps and suddenly APs don't exist. Go figure.


My royal flushes are WELL exceeding the math over the last 6 months. Doesn't mean squat. Let's talk after billions of outcomes. Four months is meaningless in anything. DI is a fantasy and a fraud perpetrated to sell classes.
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gordonm888
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July 16th, 2016 at 12:17:34 PM permalink
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About 3 weeks ago a black gentleman came to the table and he was close to 7 feet tall. . . . He could almost lean in and easily drop the dice with his motion. He was doing well until the dealers kept requesting that he not lean forward too much. This is just one "aspect advantage" that takes place on the table.



No, one has responded to this point that the OP made. In Craps, why do casinos restrict people from leaning over the table as they throw the dice? Are they concerned about the potential of the thrower to influence the outcome of the dice? Or is it that the thrower will momentarily obscure the view of the table from the overhead surveillance cameras, creating a jeopardy of someone making a change to the chip stacks on the table?
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SOOPOO
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:03:49 PM permalink
Joel, WoN made a proposition to you to make a real money bet with him. Since you are still actively involved in this thread can you respond in some fashion? Thanks.
odiousgambit
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:08:22 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

No, one has responded to this point that the OP made. In Craps, why do casinos restrict people from leaning over the table as they throw the dice? Are they concerned about the potential of the thrower to influence the outcome of the dice? Or is it that the thrower will momentarily obscure the view of the table from the overhead surveillance cameras, creating a jeopardy of someone making a change to the chip stacks on the table?



2 guesses as to what was seen:

*On a shorter table, a tall person with long arms can lean in to right of stick and create a very short roll that still hits the back wall. The roll can avoid the rubber diamonds of the wall more easily. I can see not allowing it.

*I recently was upbraided for leaning across stick when throwing from left of stick. I know for sure I was not hitting that dealer, but his "personal space" probably was being violated alright; perhaps contact undetectable to me took place. In any case the box woman piped up about it. If member Doc is reading, he was a witness. Was this what was seen?
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JoelDeze
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:27:03 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Joel, WoN made a proposition to you to make a real money bet with him. Since you are still actively involved in this thread can you respond in some fashion? Thanks.



I have mentioned time and time again where I play and that anyone is welcome to join me to see for themselves. The only time I visit Vegas is around week 8 or 9 of football season. My bank roll is reserved for football wagers during that time. I don't mind playing craps during that time but football is priority #1.

Off season I don't mind playing craps. It's fun and I win money. I don't claim and I've never cllaimed to throw a large amount of cash down on craps. The largest bank roll I've kept for craps play is $5k. The largest bank roll I've kept for weekend football betting is $75k. There's a big difference.

I don't really care if anyone believes me or not. Believe what you want to believe. I'm having fun playing my game and winning some money while doing it.

I have absolutely zero interest spending a week of my time to sit at a table for hours upon hours rolling dice. I'm not a young person anymore. I have more money and less time. Time is more precious to me than money.

However, my offer still stands. Anyone is welcome to join me at any time. When I come out to Vegas during football season I'll post dates. I'm more than happy to meet up with others once I get my wagers in.
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SOOPOO
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:31:50 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze



I have absolutely zero interest spending a week of my time to sit at a table for hours upon hours rolling dice. I'm not a young person anymore. I have more money and less time. Time is more precious to me than money.

However, my offer still stands. Anyone is welcome to join me at any time. When I come out to Vegas during football season I'll post dates. I'm more than happy to meet up with others once I get my wagers in.



Fair answer. I'll be in Vegas last week of October. If that's when you will be in town we can meet....
AxelWolf
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:35:27 PM permalink
I didn't go back and add up all your wins you claim to have had (perhaps you don't mention all the losses)

But it seems as if a 5k BR would be small compared to the amounts you are indicating..if you were confidant in your abilities in caps. You get where I'm going with this.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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