FrankScoblete
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December 16th, 2013 at 5:41:28 AM permalink
I have three examples of the "honest / dishonest" situation. I once lost a wallet with 5K (banded) in it. Needless to say, I was upset. The doorbell to my house rang and there was this elderly woman with my wallet with the whole 5K in it. I invited her in; we had tea and I offered her a reward. She declined.

Almost a year to the day that happened I found a lady's wallet with $400 in it. I went to the lady's house, rang the bell and gave the wallet back. I refused the reward she offered. I did, of course, have the elderly woman who gave back my wallet as an example in my mind.

There is a Chinese dry cleaner near me that I always used. I left $3,900 in my shirt pocket (a button-down military shirt). When I got home I realized what I had done and rushed back to the laundry. The owner denied that there had been any money in the shirt. There had been. Obviously I stopped using this dry cleaner.

As for casinos, there are certain laws that are in effect. If you find a chip on the floor or credits in a machine (or coins in a tray) the money belongs to the casinos. If the dealer makes a mistake and overpays you or forgets to take your bet on a loss, you are under no legal oligation to inform the dealer of such mistakes (morality might make you think differently). These I got from the Nevada Control Commission when I wrote a television show for the Travel Channel.

In hotels (at least in New York and New Jersey) "personal products" in the room such as soaps, shampoo, various creams, shower caps, sowing instruments are considered the guest's. Yes, you can take these home.

As for Bob Dancer and his former wife, I met them a few times when Bob and I did events together. Since I am not a big follower of video poker writers, I have no comment on what is being talked about concerning him because I know little about his activities firsthand.

(My new book "Confessions of a Wayward Catholic" available at Amazon.com)
kenarman
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December 16th, 2013 at 9:56:46 PM permalink
Quote: FrankScoblete

IIn hotels (at least in New York and New Jersey) "personal products" in the room such as soaps, shampoo, various creams, shower caps, sowing instruments are considered the guest's. Yes, you can take these home.q]

I have to ask you Frank what hotel you were in that provided a "sowing instrument". It sounds like a hotel I should frequent as I find the instrument I was born with is not as dependable as it was when I was younger.

Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
rxwine
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December 16th, 2013 at 10:22:40 PM permalink
Aren't the hotel bibles for possible converts? Spreading God's word is the purpose. It's an investment by God. He'd be happy for you to take the book. He'll take his 10% later.

I don't think it's there for emergency scripture reading, for people who left their bible at home. Although I guess it could serve that purpose.

Recruitment, recruitment, recruitment. IMO.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
EvenBob
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December 16th, 2013 at 11:28:00 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine



I don't think it's there for emergency scripture reading, for people who left their bible at home. .



They want you to take it. It's like when a drug
dealer gives you the first jolt for free. That's
how you get converts, free samples.
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AxelWolf
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December 16th, 2013 at 11:38:35 PM permalink
Perhaps this should go in the confessions thread. When I was a young kid, I through a temper tantrum and ripped up a Bible in front of my family, They said, I was for sure going to hell for this.

Perhaps that's why I just gave up and started killing small animals= JOKE
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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December 17th, 2013 at 2:33:29 AM permalink
Frank I don't follow the chip on the floor thing. I was cashing a ticket at the Planet Ho cage two months ago when I felt something under my foot. I reached down and picked up a black chip. The cashier saw me bend down and come up with this chip. She said "must be your lucky day, would you like to cash it in"? So I did. Is what you stated some state or federal law?

I think you should send a copy of your book to Dancer.
Greasyjohn
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December 17th, 2013 at 3:49:47 AM permalink
I once found a $25 chip on the casino floor at the Silverton. This inspired me to look into the legality of keeping it and I found out that yes, it is the property of the casino. Re: Bob Dancer, he went down to the continental breakfast. He stated in his article that had they checked to see if he was eligible for the breakfast that he would have then decided to either pay for it or eat elsewhere. Since the motel didn't check or ask for payment that's not Bob's fault. Look, morality is a matter of degree. Did I give the $25 chip back to the Silverton that I found? No.

Have you ever taken someone out to dinner and then written it off as a business expense when the dinner didn't really qualify as a business expense? How about buying postage stamps and writing off the expense, then using some of those stamps for personal use? I've had blackjack dealers pay my stiff hands when they thought they had busted. Did I bring this to their attention? No, and if I did they would have taken my bet with a blank ( or a what are you, stupid?) look on their face. I didn't give the casino back their $10 bet that I should have lost, and eating a couple of dollars worth of coffee and fruit that no one asked Bob to pay for is worse?
AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 4:25:26 AM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

Frank I don't follow the chip on the floor thing. I was cashing a ticket at the Planet Ho cage two months ago when I felt something under my foot. I reached down and picked up a black chip. The cashier saw me bend down and come up with this chip. She said "must be your lucky day, would you like to cash it in"? So I did. Is what you stated some state or federal law?

I think you should send a copy of your book to Dancer.

WOW, that's something she could get canned for, encouraging you to cash in some little old lady's last, lost chip, one that she was going to use for Xmas presents, for her needy grandchildren. She should have made you turn it in to security, that way they could split it up.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 17th, 2013 at 4:40:52 AM permalink
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AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 4:41:54 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

I once found a $25 chip on the casino floor at the Silverton. This inspired me to look into the legality of keeping it and I found out that yes, it is the property of the casino. Re: Bob Dancer, he went down to the continental breakfast. He stated in his article that had they checked to see if he was eligible for the breakfast that he would have then decided to either pay for it or eat elsewhere. Since the motel didn't check or ask for payment that's not Bob's fault. Look, morality is a matter of degree. Did I give the $25 chip back to the Silverton that I found? No.

Have you ever taken someone out to dinner and then written it off as a business expense when the dinner didn't really qualify as a business expense? How about buying postage stamps and writing off the expense, then using some of those stamps for personal use? I've had blackjack dealers pay my stiff hands when they thought they had busted. Did I bring this to their attention? No, and if I did they would have taken my bet with a blank ( or a what are you, stupid?) look on their face. I didn't give the casino back their $10 bet that I should have lost, and eating a couple of dollars worth of coffee and fruit that no one asked Bob to pay for is worse?

Why brag/blog about it? I think it makes AP's look bad (not that they aren't) If Bob knowingly steals fruit and coffee. Maybe its ok for me to steal other things. I don't see the difference between doing what he did, from walking into a 7-11 and grabbing a donuts without paying and walking out.

Again, im not judging or saying I would not scam some breakfast.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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